How Many Islands have gone so far?

SL has experienced a net loss of 2485 out of a 26665 estate region peak, with a current average daily net loss of something over 60 sims/day. This loss is more than the daily gain seen just before the OSS debacle began. We should hit the 10% loss mark today.

Assuming that this loss is almost entirely OSS consolidation, this is really revenue-neutral to LL, only representing loss of user content. Maybe even a net gain, since some will be moving back to mainland. On the other hand, LL must not be selling many new sims of any type.

Furthermore, LL has yet to sufficiently define the Homestead product - without objective limit definitions or any meaningful service quality guarantees, Homesteads are a very risky proposition, and it isn't clear that Desolation sims are interesting to anyone at all.

The real question is how badly depressed are full sim prices - if prices drop low enough, we'll start to see abandonments by actual owners starting in January and LL's revenue will actually begin to decline. Time will tell, I suppose.

Island growth so far in December, as of December 11th: -670.

WE get it, it's shrinking daily. Thanks!

Thanks for keeping up with the numbers - I find it very informative.

Island growth so far in December, as of December 12th: -879.

It seems like a deep depression is starting to takeover the grid.

Island growth so far in December, as of December 14th: -1054.

With the grid being about 30k sims in late October and losing 1977 sims worth of real estate in November, this new number puts us past a landmark.

Since the openspace pricing announcement, and still before any pricing changes actually go into effect, the SL grid has shrunk by 10% in land size.

Four of the places where I spent the most time -- and Lindens -- ahve now folded. With several others teetering on the brink.

You were expecting me to adjust to this demolition derby how, exactly?

Its perfect for the little Lindens. They wanted exactly this. However, they didn't think through the timing. Lets see what the figures for the quarter come up with - if you can believe them.

It can't stay that way for long - no matter how you juggle the numbers, you still end up with the same bottom line. At the current rate of loss, and accounting for the wisdom of as many people who can't afford it having made their plans to get out early and having done so already, SL's land mass should be something around 2000 islands by June, or slightly over the size it was on October 28th when the announcement was made and people started voting with their feet.

It's really sad to see all this unravel so fast over a single bad decision, but maybe they're finally figuring out that treating people like lab experiments instead of paying customers hasn't really worked out for them.

I think many reacted and left,many will ride out the $95 increase as it is still fairly affordable but come July when the $125 kicks in the abandonment will start all over again.
All these island losses have occurred and the increases have not begun,those were protests,the actual numbers of those who cannot afford the $125 will show up in july
(Yes chris i used the word many)

They still haven't turned off the 4th one I turned into them, and I got the email saying I was an owner and subject to the rate increase, just a few minutes ago. Now I'm on the horn with a Linden concierge who asks me "What do i mean by turned them in?" Amazing group of people there at LL.

Update: Linden says "It does appear those regions are still owned by you. I do apologize for this mistake."

I turned these in weeks ago. They can't figure out how to turn them off?

Please keep posting these stats. They probably don't even include all of the OS sims like mine that were never actually closed after being requested to be shut down, so these numbers are probably even larger. If it happened to me, it happened to others.

You bet your sweet bippy.

Mine is going through the abandoned process too. I won't be paying this insulting increase, but it has been a complete waste of money for me.

Was there really any reason for that email? Are they having a bet in the office on how much they can annoy people?

Island growth so far in December, as of December 14th: -1090.

Sorry, I had to change the entry slightly (13th = 14th). LL seems to have problems to keep the 'Economic Statistics' page and the 'Raw Data Files' consistent (although both pages claim to 'reflect data as of midnight the previous day').
The numbers used are now from the raw data files.

We still have the "Script limit" to hit, that will be a major decider for a large number of people.

LOL, I guess someone will make a lot of money

The drop off in online users is already visibly noticable despite the official statistics. My Avatar On Line HUD actually gives me very different statistics. About a tenth of what LL claims.

I've always wondered about Linden's claims to users on line. I suspect that if you are logged into SL website then you are 'on line'. However, I am logged in all the time but never go into SL now. My friends and I found a better place to meet.

Linden's will suffer through their pockets whatever they claim. They would have anyway ... its called a recession.

So what happens when Linden go bust?

People lose even more money. Honestly, even I have been surprised at how fewer people there are on line in the last week or two. LL's optimistic figures on logging in always show somewhere between 40,000 and 75,000. Yet my little tool says there are only 2000 to 7000 on line. I wonder which is more correct.

2000 to 7000 ??? ooo! thats a big conjecture. I only say this because that would mean that 5-12% of all people logging come to my place everyday. Which I dont think is the case.

I be interested in how you came up with those numbers though ???

Edit: I know you got a HUD but is how you counting avatars that I would find interesting.

Okay, I've taken in the information and share many of the areas of concern raised by others, so no need to go over old ground.

I think the establishment of the Homestead product is a good, pragmatic decision but like many others feel the pricing structure and proposed restrictions amount to a very poor deal indeed.

Like many others, I am waiting to hear what the final script restrictions will be. I also think there has to be a clearer definition for Homestead, other than residential/light industrial, or we could find ourselves having the same discusison in six months time.

Time is of the essence here guys. When do you anticipate this information being available? And, having introduced these new considerations, would it not be best practice to delay any changes/increases until a full and final proposal has been finalised - thus allowing people to make informed decisions?

PS Can anyone point me in the right direction to check sim script performance? I'd hate to think I was causing problems for others and feel compelled to check. It's a British thing

I'd be interested in knowing that too, actually. It does seem like an odd difference. I just did the math on this and worked out that there'd be an average of about 2.75 people per sim on average given the current concurrent logins. That FEELS about right, but at that point it's purely a subjective measurement.

I think the number of people who can't afford the first price increase will cause another wave of abandonment - it may not spike, but I think it will be a constant drain as we head into the new year. For all we know it could very well be a constant one. If that happens, the grid'll be half its size before the big price hike even starts. It's not likely it'll drain that consistently, but it's not outside the realm of possibility either.

As a humble suggestion to Linden Lab, the guy who came up with this stupid scheme is going to cost the company millions upon millions of dollars. I think it's time to take a hard look at what the real technological problems are that are making this so expensive to maintain (and it's not abuse of the openspace sims) and fix it.

They are the figures produced by the hud on start up. It provides three sets of figures: number of people on my list/number of people on the list who are online/ a third number which is always in the thousands. It is this last figure which I have interpreted as being the number of people on line. I know that is a huge leap of faith but that is the assumption I have arrived at by following the logic of programming. It may be the number of owners of that hud but logic leads me to believe that this is not the case. Not saying that figure is accurate but nor is the figure that LL provides when we log in.