How Many Islands have gone so far?
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Pandorah Ashdene
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03-29-2009 22:59
Since LL is still 'repairing' their statistics page, again quoted from Tyche Shepherd's blog ( http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/business-land-economy/8523-new-second-life-sims-past-14.html ) last week's island numbers: * A busier week then recent ones with 215 new regions added and 308 removed for a net loss of 93 regions. This brings the Main grid region count to 26683 of which 21301 are private estate regions and 5382 are Linden owned. *
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sable Valentine
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03-31-2009 07:08
From: Elanthius Flagstaff WTF! SL land is nothing like a pyramid scheme. The Lindens sell land to several Land Barons, each Land Baron sells it on to several Renters, some Renters sell it onto several Sublettors and the money flows upwards.
See, nothing like a pyramid.
Anyway, what exactly is wrong with greed again? I like money, I want money. As long as I behave morally trying to earn as much money as possible is practically my patriotic duty. To quote Snoop Doggy Dog: "I got my mind on money and my money on my mind"
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DJ Flamand
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04-01-2009 11:15
From: Lucinda Bulloch When are you all going to wake up, this is one huge pyramid selling scam, and your all motivated by greed and blinded by it, in most country's this is outlawed to protect those blinded by greed, and one day this will be to. WAKE UP YOU SAD GREEDY PEOPLE. I closed 31 sims, made no attempt to sell them, when i saw the light, and i down graded my account to basic, now i suggest that you all do the same, but i do know that the damed never see the light and the lindens are banking on that literally. Agree with that. Closed down about 30 empty sims too. Didn't bother to sell them to keep on feeding their pyramid game. As I will not buy any sims from then again. Downgrading account in November to basic. Now focusing on content creation. Using their network capacity without paying anything for it (ok...the 10L$ for uploading textures ...), just earning. LL doesn't care about their paying customers, so why bother feeding them?
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Lucinda Bulloch
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04-02-2009 12:04
well linden labs, its been a year since your new CEO started running things, the main thing he got wrong was assuming that every one in the world has a low intelligence and the attention span of a goldfish, i hear he was CEO of AOL, well that failed in Europe, cos everyone could see though the lies, seems he has taken you down the same road, the fact that you go off line at Europes peak hour, seems more manipulation, now sack him and get someone in tune with the world and not motivated by greed, the first quarter of 2009 has come to an end, i can still hear the words of the chairman saying that you are recession proof, lol, what a fool, you are not, only middle America have low IQ's and short attention spans, the rest of us are quite bright, now it maybe you have gone so far and lost the confidence of most of your customers in which case you will never recover, he has failed you cos you failed yourself s in believing him, he just wanted the job so he would have told you anything, you are the fools for believing him, any investor now see you as a cheap pyramid selling scheme were as before they saw you as an investment, let me explain, while the numbers of people was greater that the amount of land you are an investment, when the amount of people is less than the available land you are a scam, do you understand, your CEO didn't and you will now pay for it.
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Belle Loll
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04-03-2009 15:55
From: Lucinda Bulloch only middle America have low IQ's and short attention spans, the rest of us are quite bright Too bad you just proved how low your level of brightness is. Even if you had anything worth reading...no one with intellence or any level of IQ would give it credit after that statement.
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Gordon Wendt
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04-04-2009 15:53
From: DJ Flamand Agree with that. Closed down about 30 empty sims too. Didn't bother to sell them to keep on feeding their pyramid game. As I will not buy any sims from then again. Downgrading account in November to basic.
Now focusing on content creation. Using their network capacity without paying anything for it (ok...the 10L$ for uploading textures ...), just earning.
LL doesn't care about their paying customers, so why bother feeding them? Wait, so you spent what amounts to thousands of dollars worth of land and tier fees and you gave it up for free just to spite someone who couldn't give a damn that your trying to spite them when you could have made at least some of that money back. Either you're rich enough that you don't have to care (unlikely in this economy) or that seems like it doesn't make much sense at least fiscally.
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Pandorah Ashdene
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This week's numbers: net loss 147 regions
04-06-2009 01:39
Since LL is still 'repairing' their statistics page, again quoted from Tyche Shepherd's blog ( http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/business-land-economy/8523-new-second-life-sims-past-14.html ) last week's island numbers: * Quite a bit of activity this week with 190 new regions and 408 regions removed (51 renames). 71 of the removals were regions which appeared on the Grid for the first time in the past 7 days so the net loss was 147 regions. The Main Grid is now 26568 regions (21195 private estates and 5373 Linden owned). 94 of the regions going off line are Linden owned, 68 Ursula regions (which all appeared for the first time this week) and 25 Leo regions. The additional Ursula regions have appeared and dissappeared twice this week. As reported eralier this week there were also 17 New Mainland regions added to the newest Gaeta contintent (Little Willy). * Based on Tyche's blog, the number of private estate islands had a net decrease of 5410 from 26605 to 21195, since the begin of November (i.e. a loss of 20%). The number of Linden owed sims increased in this time from 5082 to 5373, which is a net increase of 291.
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Yoki Enoch
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04-06-2009 07:31
From: Pandorah Ashdene Since LL is still 'repairing' their statistics page, again quoted from Tyche Shepherd's blog ( http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/business-land-economy/8523-new-second-life-sims-past-14.html ) last week's island numbers: * Quite a bit of activity this week with 190 new regions and 408 regions removed (51 renames). 71 of the removals were regions which appeared on the Grid for the first time in the past 7 days so the net loss was 147 regions. The Main Grid is now 26568 regions (21195 private estates and 5373 Linden owned). 94 of the regions going off line are Linden owned, 68 Ursula regions (which all appeared for the first time this week) and 25 Leo regions. The additional Ursula regions have appeared and dissappeared twice this week. As reported eralier this week there were also 17 New Mainland regions added to the newest Gaeta contintent (Little Willy). * Based on Tyche's blog, the number of private estate islands had a net decrease of 5410 from 26605 to 21195, since the begin of November (i.e. a loss of 20%). The number of Linden owed sims increased in this time from 5082 to 5373, which is a net increase of 291. And we are well into our 6th month since the infamous Open Space sim announcement by Linden Lab, and the decline in land area of SL still continues.
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Jackie Silverfall
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04-06-2009 10:58
From: Yoki Enoch And we are well into our 6th month since the infamous Open Space sim announcement by Linden Lab, and the decline in land area of SL still continues. I'm late to this discussion, but has nobody noticed that the world outside is in the middle of the worst financial crisis in our lives? People are losing their jobs, real life businesses are shutting down, established families are losing their homes and this is a worldwide situation, not a local one...so what do you think will be the first personal belonging to be sacrificed: a) virtual land in a virtual world, or b) food on the table and mortgage payments? I don't see a cause and effect between the Open Space announcement and the decline in land area, quite simply. Jackie.
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Shockwave Yareach
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04-06-2009 11:13
From: Jackie Silverfall I don't see a cause and effect between the Open Space announcement and the decline in land area, quite simply. Jackie.
While I won't dispute that the economy has some effect on the land area, I do think that it's a minor contriibutor. If you look to the great depression, escapist luxuries which allowed people to ignore their troubles for a short time did not go bankrupt. They prospered, because everyone needed a way to get away from things for a time. Radio didn't fade, and in fact grew. Movies made more money than ever before. Pulp fiction and dimestore novel were everywhere. Second Life is no different at the moment - a little bit of escape from our economic mess. That people are willing to abandon many thousands of dollars worth of island or mainland tells me that the reasons for the shrinking landbase is NOT economic. For if money was the motivating factor, they'd sell the land instead of flipping the bird at LL and hitting the Abandon button. That so many people are willing to just eat their losses and quit, says that the economy isn't the principle cause. People facing hungry kids want something (anything) back from their investments - only P O'd clients say "F this" and abandon their lands, never to return.
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Yoki Enoch
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04-06-2009 12:24
From: Jackie Silverfall I'm late to this discussion, but has nobody noticed that the world outside is in the middle of the worst financial crisis in our lives? People are losing their jobs, real life businesses are shutting down, established families are losing their homes and this is a worldwide situation, not a local one...so what do you think will be the first personal belonging to be sacrificed: a) virtual land in a virtual world, or b) food on the table and mortgage payments? I don't see a cause and effect between the Open Space announcement and the decline in land area, quite simply. Jackie. It is not as if the troubled economy started in the last few months. It has been going on in the US for a couple of years. The year 2008 was really, really, bad, and yet, during that time, Linden Lab when they reconfigured their Open Space sims, sold them like they were going out of style. Then, in November of 2008, they announced an increase of tier fees of 67%. The result? Linden Lab created their own economic down turn in SL through its own stupidity. Economic downturns come about when people lack confidence in the market. Well, SL residents lost complete confidence in LL with its obvious move to destroying a product that SL residents loved and wanted and bought, sold and rented.
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nikita Jefferson
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04-06-2009 14:14
From: Yoki Enoch It is not as if the troubled economy started in the last few months. It has been going on in the US for a couple of years. The year 2008 was really, really, bad, and yet, during that time, Linden Lab when they reconfigured their Open Space sims, sold them like they were going out of style. Then, in November of 2008, they announced an increase of tier fees of 67%. The result? Linden Lab created their own economic down turn in SL through its own stupidity. Economic downturns come about when people lack confidence in the market. Well, SL residents lost complete confidence in LL with its obvious move to destroying a product that SL residents loved and wanted and bought, sold and rented. What they did was completely unfair,residents who could not afford a full prim sim were delighted to be able to afford a reduced prim island,then LL did an about turn and raised the tier to a point where they could'nt afford it I gave up my homestead recently because i was lucky enough to find another one which is much more affordable and the price is locked in until the end of 2009 I did a little math at the linden exchange and worked out what i was paying the estate owner as regards to his profit on my previous island On the $95 tier it was $41 on the $125 tier it will be $44 As i have said over and over i wish LL would sell homesteads to non estate owners,besides the profit there is also 20% exchange on top,i know exchange rates are unavoidable but it still adds to the monthly tier
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Pandorah Ashdene
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This week's numbers: net gain 131 regions
04-12-2009 16:36
Since LL is still 'repairing' their statistics page, again quoted from Tyche Shepherd's blog ( http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/business-land-economy/8523-new-second-life-sims-past-15.html ) this week's island numbers: * This week the Grid increased in size by 131 regions, not the first week with an increase in Grid size since October, but it is the largest since then and also the first where both private estates and Linden owned increased . Total number of Main Grid regions is now 26739 which breaks down as 21353 private estates & 5386 Linden owned In total 303 new regions were added, with 172 regions removed (34 were renamed) A good proportion of the increase were the 40 Anshe regions (15 came and went this week) and the 40 Sirux regions I reported earlier this week. There were also another Linden Lab 12 Oatmeal regions joining the existing 4. Also this wee, the Australian Universities of Sydney (2 regions) and Ballarat both joined the grid *
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Elanthius Flagstaff
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04-12-2009 16:50
From: Pandorah Ashdene Since LL is still 'repairing' their statistics page, again quoted from Tyche Shepherd's blog ( http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/business-land-economy/8523-new-second-life-sims-past-15.html ) this week's island numbers: * This week the Grid increased in size by 131 regions, not the first week with an increase in Grid size since October, but it is the largest since then and also the first where both private estates and Linden owned increased . Total number of Main Grid regions is now 26739 which breaks down as 21353 private estates & 5386 Linden owned In total 303 new regions were added, with 172 regions removed (34 were renamed) A good proportion of the increase were the 40 Anshe regions (15 came and went this week) and the 40 Sirux regions I reported earlier this week. There were also another Linden Lab 12 Oatmeal regions joining the existing 4. Also this wee, the Australian Universities of Sydney (2 regions) and Ballarat both joined the grid * If you're not going to add anything of value why do you keep posting this rubbish?
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Ciaran Laval
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04-12-2009 17:11
From: Elanthius Flagstaff If you're not going to add anything of value why do you keep posting this rubbish? Oh you're grumpy, not everyone reads Tyche's thread at SLU.
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Vic Arashi
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04-12-2009 18:29
From: Elanthius Flagstaff If you're not going to add anything of value why do you keep posting this rubbish? If you are not interested in this thread, why do you bother posting it to it?
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Tyche Shepherd
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04-13-2009 00:41
Maybe Elanthius wants to keep my SLU posts to himself ?  - as he's certainly a reader of it, avid or otherwise 
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Matthew Dowd
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04-13-2009 10:39
The topic of this thread is "How many islands have gone so far?"
Pandorah Ashdene's posts seem pretty on topic to me.
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Nina Stepford
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04-14-2009 06:53
well the greedy fucks at ll made a fair effort at stealing yet another island from me, locking me out of the lindex and refusing to let me transfer $L from an alt to convert into tier.
i tell EVERYONE i meet the sorts of stunts you pull ll.
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Jackie Silverfall
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04-14-2009 11:34
From: Yoki Enoch The year 2008 was really, really, bad, and yet, during that time, Linden Lab when they reconfigured their Open Space sims, sold them like they were going out of style. Then, in November of 2008, they announced an increase of tier fees of 67%. The result? Linden Lab created their own economic down turn in SL through its own stupidity. My apologies...I was (as is often the case) speaking without all the facts. That event predated my birth here and I was unaware that the increased tier fees went along with the announcement. You have a valid point. So sorry! Jackie
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Pandorah Ashdene
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This week's numbers: Net increase by 8 regions
04-19-2009 15:19
Since LL is still 'repairing' their statistics page, again quoted from Tyche Shepherd's blog ( http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/business-land-economy/8523-new-second-life-sims-past-15.html ) this week's island numbers: * The Grid increased in size this week by a net 8 regions . It currently stands at 26747 regions of which 21362 are private estates and 5385 are Linden Lab owned. There are 226 brand new regions on the Grid and in total 376 were removed, 49 of these were renamed and 42 Ursula regions arrived for the first time and went within the week, as well as another 70 Ursula regions which reappeared this week and then dissappeared as well as at least 8 other Linden regions (See the Colosseum grouping) which did the same- This Linden Activity inflates the numbers going offline and partially hides a small but positive growth in the Main Grid. * Which leaves us with: The number of private regions peaked on Oct. the 28th: 26665*. Island growth in the days 29th-31st Oct: -126*. Island growth in November 08: -1977*. Island growth in December 08: -2007*. Island growth in January 09: -736*. (* = Private region numbers by LL) Island growth in February 09: -365**. Island growth in March 09: -384**. Island growth in April 09 (in week): 04-05-2009, -147** 04-12-2009, +131** 04-19-2009, +8** (** = Grid (private+LL) region numbers by Tyche) Based on Tyche's blog, the number of private estate islands had a net decrease of 5234 from 26605 to 21362, since the begin of November (i.e. a loss of 19.7%). The number of Linden owed sims increased in this time from 5082 to 5385, which is a net increase of 303. ---------------------------------------------------------------- These numbers seem to be consitent with the graph published by T Linden: https://blogs.secondlife.com/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/38-13282-1254/ICbT.pngin the ecomomy blog: https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/features/blog/2009/04/16/the-second-life-economy--first-quarter-2009-in-detailDespite the fact that Elanthius asked politely for the "raw data instead of the pretty graphs", we are still waiting for them to be repulished on the statistics page.
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Pandorah Ashdene
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This week's numbers: Net increase by 13 regions
04-27-2009 04:20
Since LL is still 'repairing' their statistics page, again quoted from Tyche Shepherd's blog ( http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/business-land-economy/8523-new-second-life-sims-past-15.html ) this week's island numbers: * The Grid grew by 13 regions this week to 26760 regions in total. 21350 of these are private estates, 5410 are Linden owned. In total 160 new regions were added and 29 returned to the grid whilst 181 were removed (of which 36 were renamed and 5 came and went since the last report) Private estates declined by 12 whilst Linden owned increased by 25. 5 of these were due to my bookkeeping, i.e. 5 old regions which I have now correctly identified as being Linden owned which I had previously marked as private estate. *
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Yoki Enoch
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04-27-2009 07:53
From: Pandorah Ashdene Since LL is still 'repairing' their statistics page, again quoted from Tyche Shepherd's blog ( http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/business-land-economy/8523-new-second-life-sims-past-15.html ) this week's island numbers: * The Grid grew by 13 regions this week to 26760 regions in total. 21350 of these are private estates, 5410 are Linden owned. In total 160 new regions were added and 29 returned to the grid whilst 181 were removed (of which 36 were renamed and 5 came and went since the last report) Private estates declined by 12 whilst Linden owned increased by 25. 5 of these were due to my bookkeeping, i.e. 5 old regions which I have now correctly identified as being Linden owned which I had previously marked as private estate. * So does this mean that this is the first time in 6 months that the overall grid took an increase instead of a loss?
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Pandorah Ashdene
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04-27-2009 08:56
From: Yoki Enoch So does this mean that this is the first time in 6 months that the overall grid took an increase instead of a loss? The grid had a positive net growth already the two weeks prior to this week: 04-12-2009, +131 04-19-2009, +8 (See post #395)
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Alisha Matova
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04-27-2009 09:24
I wonder(doubt) if that will last thru the next price hike and the AO changes....
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