How Many Islands have gone so far?

I find it curious that my Open Space sim, which I cancelled well over a month ago, still appears on the Land Portal database. Is this the case for everyone else with their cancelled Open Space sims?

The number of islands peaked on Oct. the 28th: 26665.
Island growth in the days 29th-31st Oct: -126.
Island growth in November 08: -1977.
Island growth in December 08: -2007.
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Island growth so far in January, as of January 2nd: -83.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 3rd: -157.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 4th: -181.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 5th: -202.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 7th: -301.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 9th: -373.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 10th: -457.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 11th: -490.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 12th: -515.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 14th: -529.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 15th: -537.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 16th: -532.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 19th: -584.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 20th: -588.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 21st: -611.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 23rd: -604.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 25th: -642.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 27th: -686.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 28th: -683.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 29th: -684.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 30th: -718.
Island growth so far in January, as of January 31st: -736
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Island growth in January 09: -736.

Please keep in mind, that the numbers are the 'net growth' of islands (net growth = + added - removed).

Disinformation?

That's a net growth of -4846 since the October announcement, or a loss of 18.1% of the total land mass. If these were a person, we'd be talking about a severed limb here at this point.

And now the statistics section is gone completely (the url http://secondlife.com/whatis/econmy_stats.php is redirected to http://secondlife.com/whatis/marketplace.php ) and replaced by the tell-nothing page about second life shopping. Hm.

yeh i just noticed this too....

click on "Economic Statistics"... Shopping.... huh

i really hope they are just relocating the metrics page or something - not removing it. i like seeing those metrics. its neat to be able to do a big zoom out, seeing all the numbers on how the whole SL world is moving along -- whether its good times or bad.

a bit of a shame really -- if they are hiding those figures away now -- just maybe not having the confidence to show a few bad numbers. its like a little kid might hide a poor report card from their parents.....

smart investors can understand consolidation - its healthy & kind of expected to happen after a period of explosive growth. however, suddenly hiding data that normally is made public -- i think that's a big no-no.

then again SL is still young. taking out the metrics page entirely, does make the site less complex, confusing, and geeky -- maybe becoming more marketable & newcomer-friendly. *shrugs*

maybe those very few of us who are interested in metrics, could subscribe to that by email reports or something now?

Raw data still seems to be available at this page

http://secondlife.com/whatis/economy-data.php

Thanks, handn't the page bookmarked, and you can't get there any more, as I said, just by following links from the homepage at the moment.

The number of islands peaked on Oct. the 28th: 26665.
Island growth in the days 29th-31st Oct: -126.
Island growth in November 08: -1977.
Island growth in December 08: -2007.
Island growth in January 09: -736.
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Island growth so far in February, as of February 2nd: -18.

cool, thanks for the link Nathan. I've bookmarked this also.

There is now a Jira about this issue https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-960

Thanks. I appreciate this info.

Island growth so far in February, as of February 4th: -21.

So the "problem" here seems to be not just who's abandoning their simulators, but the fact that many new people aren't buying new islands because of recent "moves".
I never tought that look at negative numbers in the early Feb but slightly positive, and a new descent curve approacching to the second price hike.
The situation seems to be worse than i expected initially.

Island growth so far in February, as of February 5th: -23.

I had thought that curve would have flattened out before now. In retrospect, I'd guess a better bet would have been that it would flatten out one month (aka: one billing cycle) after the price change. Apparently and not surprisingly, a number of people don't read the blogs/forums/email...

Yup, I thought January 20th would have been the bottom of the curve, people had had enough notice by then. Hopefully we'll see growth in the next week. I think you're right about people not reading the blog, especially non-English speakers, the Italians made their voice heard in this forum quite late in the day and maybe the emails ended up in spam filters.

Actually it would not surprise me if it keeps going down for a while, maybe even an extended period, hopefully at a slower rate.
The RL world economy is going to have to affect elective cash outlays at some point or another. The measure of winning companies is increasingly switching from how much growth to their ability to merely survive and weather the storm.

EDITTED

I know its been mentioned before, but its pertinent to me, last month when I looked at the exchange rate $ -> £ I was so close to giving up my island as the cost has now reached 100% increase on what I was paying a few months ago, and thats before the next incease. So how I see it, if like me, one is judging month by month if one can afford SL then I see the number of islands not bottoming out at all before the next increase, when of course mine will be turned in.

im still pissed off about this, ll.
still feeling swindled, and i still tell ppl about your thieving ways every chance i get.

Yup, that's an economic stat that LL can't control but it sure does make everything more expensive for people, this is why biting the hand that feeds you isn't wise. Goodwill starts to get strained.

What made me think is that too many islands are being abandoned instead of being sold, now if someone won't have an island for free (or for just few usd), how's supposed that someone would pay for it? Obviously the monthly fees are those ones to consider, but the entry price playes a role as well. It's "scary" to don't find any buyer for an homestead sold for $10 ...it means that the product is definitively death. And it seems that most ppl are finding troubles to sell the regular regions for half of the normal (LL) price.
A "used" simulator is exactly like a new one, since with the ownership transferring you gonna have a relocation (position) and renaming.

O.K. That's it. I cant post any numbers any more.

After disabling the numbers on the statistics page in December, and then replacing the statistics page with some blurb at the end of January and deleting the link to the raw data files, so that you cant reach them from there anymore, finaly they took the "Islands Added" out of the raw data page too ( http://secondlife.com/statistics/economy-data.php ).

Honesty and openness is not part of the LL PR. Point taken.

And the added footnote on the raw data page

"Note: Private Region data has been temporarily unpublished while we correct our reporting mechanisms to account for the recent addition of Openspaces and Homesteads. We apologize for the inconvenience."

should better read "... for the recent subtraction of Openspaces and Homesteads."

At least now we're sure that until the numbers will be published again, they will be negative.

4869 regions abandoned up to Feb 5th 2009

to not count the fact that it was just the first part of the price hike, and excluding the islands never purchased (that would have doubled those numbers).

20% of the grid gone in 3 months... and in june? I think they starts only now to think about if that move was a great idea. They imagined that most of ppl would have sit in a corner like donkeys and paying without saying a word, they have imagined it wrong.

Ciao Jack, cheers from Italy.

The drop had slowed to a crawl. If it had kept going like it had been, it would have starting going positive in another week.



I really don't get why they would nuke the whole economic stats page. Unless all the numbers were looking horrible (I don't really follow them and have no idea if they were) it doesn't seem like a very good move to me.

Well if Linden Lab don't want to give us the info then the wonderful Tyche Shepherd will:

http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/business-land-economy/8523-new-second-life-sims-past.html