Men's clothes are terrible

Metrosexual. That's something I hadn't heard of in a long time.


I'm another who refuses to buy anything not modifiable as many of the clothes you buy need to be mod in some way or other.

Seems like all this talk about businesses selling a lot less would have something to do with this some way or another. Lot's more people not buying unless it's mod clothing. I do the same for furniture pieces also. No mod, no buy.

I make furniture, those with sit animations in them can't be mod, so would you prefer a sofa without any sit animations in them. It's a real pain to offer both types. Also I do of course believe I make my furniture as best as I can, and I do sometimes go back to some pieces and tweak out design flaws, so I don't understand why you would want to modify furniture?

Answer is very simple.

Many times you need to modify items to fit either your taste or the area you want to them set them at. Other times you buy an item and it comes with attached pieces you don't want.

Example: I buy a sofa and it comes with pillows but while I like the sofa I don't like the pillows. So being mod I can take them off to save prims or to add pillows I rather have on them.

Another example:
Maybe the sofa isn't in the color you like. Maybe you decide to change the color of your curtains and surroundings but having a non-mod sofa you can't so now you have to buy another or not change anything at all. Maybe you wish to set it in an area but the sofa is too wide so you can't. Being mod, you can adjust it to your liking.

I recently brought a pair of pants. I saw they weren't mod but I decided to gamble and I went against my own good judgement of not buying it. The pants were not only skin tight but they were also above my ankles. No way could I wear this and being non-mod I couldn't adjust them.

I wrote the shop owner several times and never received any type of response. Knowing the way many of the vendors are in sl you will gamble each time when buying non-mod because they won't answer you when you call them with complaints. The same tiresome excuse of their IM's were capped is played out. No one wants to hear that anymore.

So, rather then to gamble on clothes and lose out and more importantly rather then to not have to deal with these type of shop owners it's best not to buy anything unless you can adjust it yourself. Besides, we all know how many badly made items are put for sale in sl.

So many different ways having mod-items whether furniture or clothes can benefit you.
These are just a couple of the many different examples why non-mod items just doesn't do it. And it's exactly why I won't buy anything unless I can fit to my taste.

And again, Ricardo, you paint everyone with one experience.

and I'll say again:

The reason I don't make my clothes mod is because why would I willingly sell you one item copy/mod at 100L, which you can turn into 100 items modified however you like. I've sold you an entire wardrobe for 100L. That's not cost effective.

You really think you have a right to compromise my designs, I'm not going to let an idiot change my furniture to look like shit while it's still got my name attached to it as creator, can you understand that?

What the devil you're talking about?

You sell one pair of pants how can I turn that into 100 pairs? I'm not a magician. The only thing I do with pants is make them bigger, usually to 100 without no cuffs, that's it.

We all know you can't change colors on shirts or sweaters or pants or just about any article of clothing being you can't change the designs on them. It all becomes one flat color. Whatever design these clothes came with won't show once you change the color on them so how pray tell would I do this? The only thing I do with tops is make them short sleeves or long, thats it.

So how are you selling an entire wardrobe by doing this? Stop exaggerating.

I'm constantly seeing the reason for not making mod clothing is the "designers" -and I'm really trying to keep a straight face here- say they don't want anyone messing with their so-called designs. But once they sell their items most likely over priced as it is it's no longer theres to bitch about. No one cares who made those pants or that sweater.

Bottom line: It's all about greed. All about money. It's not? One example: this person here, is worried no one will buy clothes if the clothes sold are mod being people would have an entire wardrobe to work with and all made from that one article of clothing. And at 100L to boot. And this isn't even about copiable clothes, imagine if it was. Besides, no one said anything about copiable clothes, you did. Mod was the only thing being discussed here.

It's so ridiculous it's not even worth talking about.

As far as me painting it the same. Long as it looks the same I'll use the same brush. You would know what they say, if it looks like a duck and it walks like a.....

Have you ever been in one of my shops? Have you seen how much I charge for clothes? Have you IM'd me as a customer with a question or comment?


No. You haven't. So you cannot lump me in with your one bad experience.

And mod is mod. You can re-texture it as you like if it's a prim part of the outfit. You can change the color and the pattern will stay visible through it.

As for rediculously expensive? Most my stuff costs little more than the price of a few uploads.

You just come across as very sour and negative, and it gets old. Try saying something nice about someone, just once? I promise, lightening won't strike you down.

Oh, and I'm a SHE thank you, not a he....got the boobages to prove it

See what I mean about sl's famous "designers." If it has her/his name on it then it must be worth something, right? Please!! Your name? Your name? Your name means nothing as far as the average customer is concerned. And the average customer is the one spending the bucks.

You're no different then most here who think because they build stuff they're some sort of sl god. WoW, let us kneel before you. Your egos are totally out of control. And in your wild imagination, no, let me rephrase that, in your "designer" imagination being you're a lol, err...excuse me didn't mean to laugh, being you're a "designer" you actually think people care who you are, what you made or that they even know you? Maybe a few do so count your blessings.

I've been here almost 2 yrs and I spent a lot on items here and I wouldn't know you from a hole in the wall or your items from the thousands of other furniture pieces in sl. You think others do or care you made them? Or that they have your name on it? You have a lot to learn but you can start by coming off that high cloud.

Hmm..didn't know furniture would look like shit if it's modifiable. I must look into this right away.

No. I'm responding to and the way you responded to me, nothing more, nothing less.

And no I don't think I brought anything from you but like you said, you don't sell mod so I won't even go there.

And you think I'm going to retext my clothes to make more? Lady, I believe I have more clothes in my inventory then you probably do in your entire shop. Trust me on this one. I have clothes from over a year back I haven't even worn yet and I wear a different outfit each day. You're confusing me with those who don't change their clothes. And I'm going to texture one lousy pair of pants to make a 100 as you said. That's laughable at best.

But it's your items, you do as you like. All I said was I won't buy non-mod clothes and you and whatsherface came down on me cause I don't wish to buy them. Go figure.

let me add this: When talking about expensive clothes/items being sold I meant that in general, not directly to you.

Sorry about that Miss She.

What does mod have to do with anything if it's not transferable or not copiable? If it's not transferable do you really care if he gets rid of the low rise? If it's not copiable, do you care if he mods it and gives it away? He would have to come back to you to buy the same template 100x over if he wanted to distribute 100 copies, so you still get paid. I fail to see what mod has to do with anything here. If you are worried about design theft, it doesn't need to be mod to steal it - you just get that nasty program that I will not name here and use it.

On a lighter note .......

What a REALLY useful thread! Yesterday I copied down roughly the first 20 shops that were listed and went for a mega shop when I got in from work last night. Found loads of decent stuff that had previously evaded me, so BIG thanks to everybody who listed their faves.

And then ..... just as I was looking the way I liked and liking the way I looked - SL crashes for a couple of hours.

Now that is called Sods Law I believe lol.

If looking for latest high st fashions, WRONG do some hot stuff I noticed .

Welcome to the crappy avatar mesh. There's absolutely nothing anyone can do to make a jacket not look like it's painted into your crack, unless you want to wear a "skirt" portion like someone else mentioned.

Here is a JIRA issue concerning the butt crack, jackets, and pants:

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1080

Login to JIRA and vote for it!

This is true. I fail to see what the big deal is, if someone doesn't want to buy non modifiable items, so what? Seems to me a couple of people got quite defensive over his comments which seem quite valid.

I don't like buying non modifiable items myself if I can help it as I too have had problems with certain items be it clothing or other types. To each his own.

Sorry for the late reply. I have offer you a friendship request. Will hope to look out for you.

Earlier when I meant $300 >>, was that I did not have that amount of money to purchase the item.

What are some places stuff that you like? Can post some links here?

Where I"m coming from with the 1 item becomes many in your inv is:

Every time I've seen someone wanting Mod clothing, they usually want copy on it to, so if they mess it up. So it's either Mod and copy, or mod and trans, but not full perms, isn't that an invitation to disaster? And for as many people who want Mod clothes, (which almost always requires copy 'in case [wearer] mess it up) there are that many who want trans..and since I don't sell from big vendors, but each outfit is in it's own box, gift vendors are out of the question.

And you're saying that if I made all my clothes mod and copy that everyone would keep coming back to buy things from me, even though they now had the ability to just make a copy of that one outfit modify that one outfit to suit their own needs? That someone would be willing to come back and pay 100L each for new outfits, rather than save their lindens and just make another copy of the outfit in their inv, then change it as they need it? Certainly I'm not the only one who did that when money was low and the only income was event prizewinnings.

I'm willing to mod clothes on a one-on-one basis, to insure the purchaser get's a good fit. Maybe I should advertise that in my shops.

I know you can't please all the people all of the time, but I'm trying to find the happy medium, and I"m beginning to think there isn't one

And as for "it's all about the money", why else would anyone open a business in SL, but to make some Linden?!?!? You think I should just give all of it away for free? Shops aren't free, and neither are uploads. Of course it's all about the money

Well how jolly kind of you!

I've left my invaluable piece of paper at home with the shop names on, but the clothes I found that I liked were along the lines of v-neck jumpers over shirts and cardigans and tank tops (fashionable ones of course - not like my dad wears lol). But it was the detail that was the best part.

Around the waist there was a lot of scrunched up detail with a bit of a belt poking through. And one had a skirt to hide the 'bum crack'. And another had sleeves rolled up with extra 'add ons' for the bunched up sleeves and sticking up collar.

In other words, proper fashionable clothes that you would see the discerning man about town wearing in RL (which, I hasten to add, I'm definately NOT in RL - lol)

Danielle, the only discounted item I bought from BeWear was the L$1 shoe! Haha =D Thanks.

AlexLee: awwww! So means you are at work now?

Hope you can get the list over!


P.S: are you from Asia?

Yes I'm afraid I am at work for another 2 hours!! Groan

And I'm from England, not Asia

Alright When you do get home, do share it ok?

Oh I thought from your name, you might be from Asia. haha =D

And Bryan, please let me know if it needs modifying to fit you better, I'm willing to do personal fittings to make sure my customers look their best

Oh! Thanks. I have not tried them. Since I am in a beach wear now with slippers. =)

Can you make a nice set of clothings for L$10? haha =D

I have in the past, perhaps 10L an item, if I thought I could sell more than one of each.