What surprises you most in-world?

Say what? That all the net is an ongoing experiment in the nature of reality? Uh, yeah!




Then Buyer Beware. I firmly believe, though, that if you let someone talk for any amount of time, they will tell you everything you need to know about them.

It does take time, though.

Uh, yeah. I am not and never have been a man.



I honestly don't think people *can* role play for any extended amount of time. I think, in the end, we all are who we are. And even our role play reflects that.

Don't worry Cherry - I don't necessarily believe what I say anyway.

Pep (I checked the ToS and you don't have to)

Um yeah. LOL.

We should chat in world for you to appreciate the irony of your second point, which is incredibly true. If anything I take way too long to get to the jiggy stage. LOL.

Oh, Lear will be disappointed!

/me smiles wickedly.

I know the feeling.

Pep (Talk myself into it . . . and talk myself back out again)

Good listeners always get laid. In fact, it can be difficult to avoid - people's relief at finding a sympathetic ear can lead to hopes for all SORTS of sympathy!
I disagree with the first part of this statement, and agree with the last part. People can create a completely consistent role-play character that is very different from themselves in opinions and style, and maintain that role-play, exploring its differences from themselves, for years. However, that character will indeed have core elements in common with the player's own character.
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Well, I was thinking along the lines of essential traits, rather than opinion or style. But perhaps it is somewhat dependent on how perceptive you are, and how well you can listen...

QUOTED FOR TRUTH. =^-^=

I think truth will out. I managed to RP a character for a long while when trying to extract myself from something I should never have been in, that character essentially was a holding pattern till I wanted to be myself i.e. Cherry again.

It's funny, cos that character was easy to maintain as it was a "wall" which was polite but never quite let anyone really in. She got talking to someone one day who was intregued with her and went back repeatedly to find her (I'd stopped using her by then) and was sad not to re-encounter her.

It goes to show that you can't hide your essential nature and that truth will out, because a few weeks later that guy met me as myself and the rest is history ... funny thing is, I remember meeting him briefly and thinking "wow this guy is great" even under the cool reception my alt gave him. LOL.

So I suppose one of the things which never fails to amaze me is the upside to the various "sin bins" of SL.

Perhaps for some. I spent seven years in the U.S.Army and that was as much time I wanted to spend with men, in general. I prefer time with my wife in RL, 100 % and frankly, in retrospect, can't for the life of me understand why a woman would want to live with a man, considering what they have to put up with. The converse makes perfect sense...

Marriage in RL is generally in favor of men - we get credit for occasionally doing what our wives do all the time. What a deal! (BTW, my wife is more than capable of watching football, basketball or drinking beer. These really aren't hard skills to master and most women can be trained in five minutes or less, especially with sufficient bribes.)

As to the males being females, I think a previous poster hit the nail on the head - most are for visuals and more akin to a pimp with his own prostitute in the sex or bdsm areas. It ain't about relationships, at least of more than one to ten minutes at a time.

Today...

I was ofline and a regular customer IM'd me to report a 'situation' that had developed in my shop. So I logged in and found a couple of furries shagging in the middle of the store (actually they were in a temp Prefab demo so had minimal privacy). This didn't suprise me as SL is full of dirty little deviants. However when I ejected them, one of them IM'd me to apologise and paid me L$1000 as way of reconpense. That suprised me.

Wait!

You're talking about sl?

And these forums, too?

Positive thing for whom?

Oh, you mean for those who enjoy that type of thing, ok. But that's just for a certain group. You can't expect all guys to accept this. But then when they don't play along they're [we're] labeled homophobes, right?

I can live with that.

Now this is the sl I'm talking about. The sl we've come to enjoy and love.

See, Antonelli, knows the real deal.

I think you need to find better friends.

Yes, exactly. For men who enjoy sexual pleasure.



OK, but what do you do it for then, if not pleasure?

(/me wonders if she really wants to know this....)

BTW, Ricardo, thank you for illustrating the point I was trying to make further on in the thread, i.e. that if you let someone talk long enough, they will tell you exactly who they are. In fact, they will demand to tell you who they are, whether you want to know or not.

Keep the mystery alive. =^-^=

/me takes notes, listening intently

Aebleskiver, have you ever hung out in the Gay areas as Nan in SL?
Heck just go wear male avatar, don't change anything in some places you'll get sex too depending
on how out of it the Guys are hanging out in those locations if that's all you want.
Homophobia, Sexism and the other prejudices exist there too and just as shallow and bit more subtle except they are identify as Gay Men.
Want to see something really weird show up as Male or someone who is not out as in those groups as Female to Male transsexual in some of those Lesbian places that welcome all types including hermaphrodites and be told you're not welcome.
Depending on where you go no one is relating to anyone, its all pose ball, nothing deeper.
There are good. caring, intelligent, sensitive People and shallow, uptight and unpleasant People every where.

Huh?

You're telling me gays are human?

/me cocks her head to one side and peers...

Huh?

You were discussing homophobia.
Trust me homophobia exist in SL even amongst the Gays.
Some are more worried about getting it on with female accidentally passing as guy.
There are just as uptight about it as straight guys too.

I was referring to this post you wrote.
It exist even in the Gay and Lesbian communities here because it exist in RL.
Gay, Bisexual and even some or majority straight men its not about giving pleasure though in my opinion its just about the pose balls and the fantasy, often 95 percent its nothing about anything except the Male hormones.
High Testosterone driven guys are well equip to be self serving, they don't need to do anything special to give pleasure.
If woman is in the picture her only use is a fantasy, they don't care what she wants, all they care is if she is available and fits in fantasy. Unless women gross them out.
Lesbian scene pretty much is similar except they are more uptight about Men regardless if he is hiding behind a female avatar and majority maybe rl men posing.
Women can be just as shallow and uptight they just have other reasons behind it.

OK, so let me see if I can understand this - if a female is playing a male avatar, and refuses point-blank to talk about their RL (i.e. neither confirming nor denying their RL sex) is this lying or misrepresentation, in your opinion?

If so, where do you draw the line? If someone has bigger boobs in SL than they have in RL, is that misrepresenting themselves? If a guy sports a six-pack but is in fact a bit porky in RL, what then?

I guess I approach SL with the attitude that what you see is what you get - I treat them however they represent themselves: men as men, women as women and small, furry creatures from Alpha Centauri as small, furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.

After all, if they are entering SL looking differently from their RL, then they are doing it to experience life as that, and not to be questioned or judged about their RL, no?

I always wondered about that... How would/does a gay/lesbian group respond if one of theirs is outed as a gender-bender? Is it a bannable offense for some? Or does it lead to an air of doubt about the persons feelings? I wonder, how many after their partner comes out, thinks to themselves "Oh my gawd! I'm Bi now!" then go take a rapeshower. (^_^)

Guh... Sorries peoples.... This is as bad as I get. I can't believe I'm saying "rapeshower"... TWICE now!!! (=_=)y