What in the h* did Linden do with the latest update??

this is what I ended up doing for my shape pics, wish I had figured it out for the skin pics LOL
ah well

as mentioned in a previous post, it is just like anything else we had to learn to do

While we are determining where to lay blame for this stuff: Just who the hell decided that these graphics adjustments are better made with sliders rather than me being able to type in a number? I used to set my particle count at something like 10-50 which is just enough so I could tell if I accidently attached something that emitted poofers. Now, with that damn slider bar, I cannot get it set to anything lower than 256 except 0. That may not be that big of a difference, but it is the principle of the thing -- I liked my ability to fine tune settings a bit more.

Basically, they don't do anything to please us. It is all their game and their playground, and their whole reason for having an office and having jobs is so that the employees might have fun and be happy, and Philip has said as much.

Even so, this update with Windlight does please many. When it was first introduced, there were numerous people going ga-ga over sunsets. As a house builder, I'm not concerned for sunsets; and many people were not happy with the way their avatars looked.

However, LL wanted it, and there were enough residents just wild about it that I knew it was a lost cause. I put in my complaints and requests, which upset the Linden on the blog, and I decided not to rain on his parade anymore, really. Made me feel kind of bad, since he (and his team, I assume) had worked so hard to get it to where most people would be happy.

He was basically saying, well, if we tweak it anymore, we might as well not have it. So I gave up, I really didn't want to be that much of a wet blanket and make him and his team unhappy.

I gotta tell ya, though, in addition to making house building worse (sparkling seams and such,and no, I don't want to argue that here) and making colors ridiculous (don't want to argue that either), I just plain old don't like it.

The way I know that is - before, I looked at it in terms of building houses. Then got back on the regular viewer where I was happy, and decided I'd worry about all that when we had it.

(In fact, I didn't realize that the day would come when everyone would have to have it, no matter what.)

But tonight, after having updated earlier today, I realized I just didn't *want* to go into SL tonight, and not for any building reasons - but just because I don't like it and find it depressing looking.

Oh well.

coco

P.S. And as a builder, I pretty much have to stick with the default settings, if I want to have any hope of ever approximating anything that anyone else might actually see.

Truth is, nobody will see the same thing anymore anyway, which kinda takes the wind out of a content creator's sails, if you ask me.

But in any case, I'd better not fiddle with it, and just leave it the way it came upon receiving the update this afternoon.

I doubt this very much. I suspect most of LL's employees don't like SL at all.

But to be fair, this probably applies to most content creators too these days

Let me guess, people are going to tell Coco she doesn't know when the textures on her own houses don't look right.

I find this interesting.

So basically to keep Windlight they have to give up some control over the rest of the rendering?

Yes, I am horrified that everyone will see something different now. I know we've had a little of that ability before with being able to manually move the sun (well I never could, but I know it can be done), but being able to set your world to look like you're having a bad trip under the moons of Neptune, while the person right next you is in a sunny beautiful morning (assuming there IS such a thing) -- that's just bizarre. You may as well not be in the same world and go back to chatting in forums, like this one.

Or we'll have a bunch of ugly signs everywhere like, "Please set your environment to Glaring Purple Glacier and boost your object detail to 75% to see this structure as the builder intended."

To be fair I may see some advantages too -- or I may be able to with a new computer.

Of course, that may be a more "realistic" scenario for some

depends on what they've been smokin I guess

No, I don't think so, but I also don't understand what you said.

As I recall, I was complaining about the colors (as opposed to my other major complaint, white sparklys around windows and on seams of houses). I was saying that a deep wine color, for example, became a blood-orange, at sunset and sunrise.

That color, with no windlight, would take on a darker hue, with a tinge more of orange in it. But after windlight, what you get is one DEEP BRIGHT BLOOD ORANGE wall next to a regular wine color one.

Well, the guy on the blog, whoever it was, was getting upset by these kinds of things, and I think his point was, if they just kept tweaking things down, to make them look more normal, or more what they once looked like, there would be no windlight LEFT.

In other words, as I see it, there is a price to pay for those "glorious sunsets." And really, it didn't matter that much to me as it did to him. Kind of funny, that - it DID matter a great deal to me, but not enough to make him and the Windlight team that unhappy.

So I guess, yes, to have Windlight, well to put it simplistically, if you are going to have glorious sunsets, you are also going to get blod orange walls in your house, even where light doesn't normally fall.

Light in SL always falls on all the interior walls, windows or no, of course. But with windlight, it is a VERY strong effect. I'll have to go in and see if that part was ever tweaked at all, after I gave up asking for it to be.

I was hoping today that the white sparkly seams and windows would be gone, but they are not. Darker homes don't seem to suffer from it as much.

coco

All of this is no problem if you spend $3000 on a PC, study all of the wikis and manuals provided to us by LL for hours and have a degree in computer science.

hehe

The "3D internet of the future(tm) " will require people to have Computer Science Degrees to log on I guess.

Ugh! All this techno babble is making my eyes bleed. This is becoming too much like work. I'll stick with the 2D Internets.

Luddite

I feel that Linden Lab is headed in the wrong direction lol. I may have a $3000 computer but I don't have endless hours to waste reading LL manuals on how to make things look cool. All I want is a stable product. Screw the sunset and clouds.

It is funny to hear people worried about water and clouds "so SL can compete" when the Lindens haven't been able to keep the grid stable for over a month ..

My default settings had me mightily confused for a couple hours because people were rendering terribly until a friend explained to me about avatar imposters. Man I turned that new feature right off; LL should really think about changing how the client sets graphics on first installation. Like, the imposters are an attempt to reduce lag when a lot of people are around, but this fix is worse than the problem.

Well some people have said it picks a pretty low setting so people are immediately shocked by how slow their system might run ...

I don't know though.

You'd hope that isn't the case.

Susie I gotta agree with you. This is another sad piece of eye candy to distract us from the real issues in a long history of LL eye candy distractions.

Havok 4 yeah we needed that.

Windlight could have waited till the asset issues were worked out.

every sim is an island, the surrounding is water...... even in the middle of mainland!

That's Me. A backwater residing, change resisting, whining, stick in the mud.

Mailing you your complimentary Luddite club Commodore 64 now.

There are time I miss my C64. It was a stupid machine and overheated constantly but there were a couple of games I really miss.

Ohh I always wanted one.