New trend with retailers?

I thik that no rez is an excellent idea. I'm going to do it with all my furniture

To answer the OP's question, "what's wrong with this picture?", it's ugly hair.

That's the biggest joke about the "NO REZ" braindead script that gets used. Just rez it in no script land and copy it.

Then you have the hair you wanted in the first place, mod, copy and rez.

I had a dialog with the creator of one of those scripts who was happy she had sold it to people, knowing how much content she had protected. When challenged, she was unable to quantify how much content she had saved from copying since it's an unquantifyable number.

Same with counterfeit software, you can't say "$x was lost due to counterfeit software". I saw a great tv interview with a guy in the woods selling software at a car boot sale. When asked if he felt bad about depriving the software houses of their revenue, he answered "No, they haven't lost any money because we can't afford to buy it anyway".

Despite his rather factual response, he has a point. The "value" of the items can be quantified but not the actual loss unless you can also quantify those who would have bought in the first place but chose to copy.

*shrugs*

Stop the dysfunctional buying (buying this junk) and the dysfunctional selling just might end too... then again...

Even if you happen to find all the security scripts and remove them, the object will still derez instantly the moment you rez it in script enabled region because it flagged that object as temp a long time ago.

Nothing you can do except rez it in a no script parcel - Copy Bot it, and then use your copy how you want.

That is what these people want apparently.

They want everyone to go out of their way to find copy bot so they can make a copy of the product they purchased so they can use it how they want, modify how they want, and simply give the big F-U to the No Rez rip off paranoid creator.

Does if flag it as temp? I'm not sure it does and besides, re-rezzing another will generate a new UUID so I think you'll find it's just because it call llDie().

I know this is how the Magika hair is, the script is even in the root prim, all single shouting script.

Remove, take back to inventory, re-rez, all is quiet.

Whoops silly my, I just rezzed my hair again

[4:46] Magika Hair - Star - Wild Blue shouts:
PORTUGUESE

Essa acao foi interrompida. Por favor nao jogue mais esse objeto no chao.
Esse objeto foi criado e tem todos os direitos reservados por Sabina Gully. Copiar este objeto ou fabricar outro que se pareca com o mesmo e crime previsto por lei.

ENGLISH

Action prevented. Please do not rez this object again.

This object was created, and has all the copyright reserved by Sabina Gully.
Copying this object or making anything that looks close to its apearence is a criminal offense punishable by law.

This script is represented by Zeev Dinzeo, contact her if you are interested in purchasing it.

And in fact there's an entire extra dimension with software: often, the actual loss isn't to the company whose software was pirated!

For example.. Jasc's Paint Shop Pro is cheaper than Adobe's Photoshop, so if a pirate who couldn't afford Photoshop pirates Photoshop, Adobe will be the ones who can claim they have lost out. But in actual fact, the loss is not to Adobe, but Jasc - because if the person genuinely couldn't afford Photoshop, the actual sale would have gone to the lower priced alternative.

It's therefore very possible that content theft in SL hurts small businesses much more than it hurts the major businesses whose content is actually being copied.

I don't think it can actually work that way; the temp-rez timer resets on rez.

Quite and one of the creators of one of these "no rez" pieces of junk even has this to say about it:-

"Sassy, honestly, this thing with the non script area or the turning off of scripts...do you really think i dont know about that? Do you really think that the designers using this script don't know about that as well? You shouldn't underestimate people's inteligence... 2- the fact that you could rezz and modify the hair still doenst mean that it would be possible to copy the hair,"

So.. they know that it doesn't work, they know the people who put it in their product know it doesn't work but it's still ok because THEY don't know what copybot does. It's really too funny for words.

(In my case, the hair that I referred to was modify, I just took the no-rez script out and was able to put my script in to find the smallest prims to make them bigger so that I could resize ok)

Yumi & Sassy


Something is causing these NO REZ items to poof instantly even after you descript them.

I tangled with a NO REZ item, found all of its nested security scripts which kept respawning the main scripts in the parent prim and i removed them in a no script zone.

Yet when i rezzed the de-scripted items in a script enabled zone the items poofed.

I have no idea how it is working but some flag has been set that cannot be unset.

They need be smacked up side the head with something hard, heavy and preferably day glo in color.

Sure you found them all? In the one I had, the script was in a child prim. Hence I replicated a script to remove all scripts from all prims automatically rather than try to open each prim.

My sequence was, wear the item, add script to kill all scripts to the root prim, add a script to propagate that around. Remove item, re-wear item, set scripts to running in selection, that then took care of all the scripts in every prim. Remove and rez.

These resize things are just stupid for hair, you can't even know which prim you're clicking on half the time because so much is usually transparent. I defy any hair creator to actually move prims on their own creations using these.

Darn it, I just lost my DEMO hair

[5:21] Object shouts: Dear costumer, please do not drop on the ground items made to be worn. NEVER DO IT! . Repeating this action will lead you to be
added to our database and the action will be reported to the designer as a copybot attemp. Our intention is to prevent the person who worked hard to
build this product from having their creations stolen and to make sure that custumers like yourself wont find the expensive items you purchase been given
out as freebies or sold at full perms.

We count on your comprehension and we are very sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused you and for that, we appologise.


Hmm, Harassment, defaming individuals anyone? If they filed an AR for copybot just because you've rezzed some hair a couple of times, that's pretty rich.

maybe you need to scrub the scripts in a particular order... possibly starting with the parent/root prim.

This may seem like a silly question (I dont usually wear hair) -

Why do you need to rez hair on the ground ?
Some of them have over 150 prims

If its no mod hair I cannot see a reason to rez it on the ground
If it IS mod hair then standing on a pose stand and wearing it is the easiest way to mod it to fit you.

Same question with prim clothing.

Two answers, once I accidentally made some hair full bright and had to rez it to turn it all ways up inside and out to get to each prim to set them back. The select all wasn't working and kept missing prims.

Second answer, because i'm bloody minded, I WANT to, I see no reason why I shouldn't, especially when the accusation and assumption is that anyone that may do this is automatically out to copy it.

Besides, who's to say I didn't want to use it on a shop mannequin?

They're not and this does NOTHING to prevent that activity and that's why I want to rez it.

Some things cannot be done while the hair or clothing is worn. Removing a string for example. Delink a single prim only works when rezzed on the ground.

Any clothing or hair that is no mod, I won't buy anyways.

ya that would be enough for me to walk out then and there and never come back..
well i hope all these places that decide to use this put a big sign at the door that says all items are no rez so i don't have to waste my time rezzing their store..

Haha

You need to rez hair on the ground when you want to re-texture it with your own custom hair color and since most hairs have 2-4 textures on them it requires a lot of work and moving through prims and having it on your head while doing so would be a limitation.

And for clothing. If you buy a 200 prim Kilt that doesn't fit because it is made for people 7'0"+ you need to rez it on the ground and adjust all the prims required 1 at a time and then check it for z-flicker.

Maybe you want to put your signature hair on a skull and use that skull as a teleporter on your property?

Maybe you want to rez the hair to go on a mannequin in a scene you are making?

Maybe you want to rez the accessories - clothing/shoes/etc for a scene that doesn't use avatars?

Maybe it is not the flipping goddang business of the creator to worry about how i use their products within the realm of the permission system in SL.

Maybe if this place wasn't filled with so many damn no-nothing-take-it-in-the-ass-because-we-can't-and-don't-want-to-build-shit-lazy noobs content creators wouldn't be able to pull this kinda crap because they would be dealing with a better educated resident who doesn't think they are privileged to be able to buy that creators crap but recognize it is the creator who should feel privileged we are buying it and telling others.

Screw that sort of logic you have going. You obviously do very little in SL when the idea that something has "over 150 prims" is some sort of piece of a rational as to why the object should not be rezzed in world.

If the item is no mod it can still be used for other purposes other than the what the creator thought we could do.

The greatest complimentS i have ever received is when when a content creator catches me with their items and remarks how surprised they are someone modded it the way i did.

These creators are not freaking Michelangelo's or Leonardo's, their works are not perfect, i'll do what i can to whatever i buy to make it how i want, and if they maker doesn't like it and wants to produce their crap NO MOD, then i will reproduce my own version with my own hand and when people ask me "Are those M-Style?" I say "F-no, their crap sucks and it can't be rezzed so i made my own, got a super hud scripted and now mine do more than His and sell for 1150 lindens cheaper" Thanks for the F'ing No Rez motivation.

Are the scripts "no copy" or "no transfer"?

If you wanted to make a real "no copy/no transfer" item then the only way to do is to make the linkset "no modify/no copy" and put "no transfer" items inside. You wouldn't even need "repopulating scripts" since there's no way you can delete anything "copy/no transfer" from inside of a "no modify" prim.

The other way around (a "no modify/no transfer" linkset with "no copy" items inside) doesn't work since while you can't delete the scripts (it'll seem like it works but it's a client-side discrepancy and the sim blocked you from deleting it so it appears like it came back but it was never gone in the first place) you can drag/drop them into your inventory (and since they're no copy they dissapear from inside the prim).

Ok not to derail the topic, but is that supposed to represent "cornrows" or in my part of the country we call them "frenchbraids". If that is the case, it should be no nothing. If anything, given away for free.

How many newcomers are going to drop something made to be worn, on the ground? A lot. This is the message they get? This is their "introduction?"

Especially if their method is to drag from inventory and drop on their avatar

I even do that myself, since I rarely get dressed, and forget how to put stuff on.

Shall we have a collection to buy Mickey a second pair of jeans and second T shirt? *smiles*

If hair is no copy/no mod, that's enough for me not to buy it.

The "no rez" business is nothing but an insult to honest customers. I don't need that.

If an item shouted to everyone in the region that I was a thief, I would probably AR the designer.