Is a 5 year old capable of logging on and off??

I CAN'T RESIST!!!!! XD

OMG dats me hehehe

I always assumed all those pesky vampires were in fact relatively normal people doing some roleplay, but I have learned from this thread that it's clearly better to be safe than sorry.



Just doing my part to keep the forums safe

Excuse me, aren't you, in fact, an officer in at least one pesky vampire clan?

And, hey, if you people from the UK aren't allowed to talk to child avs in SL, does that mean you can't speak with actual children in your real lives either?

Well, yeah, but remember we Malks are the totally insane ones. Mere logic has no power over my erratic behavior.

In fact, I think I may start dressing in a rather plain button-down shirt and casual slacks and sell human cuddles for my SL living. Clearly my madness knows no bounds! MUAH HA HA HA HA!

Yes, I've heard of that law. It's an extension of the RL law with those same stipulations. Henceforth, all children in the UK shall have no contact with adults of any sort. They shall all be raised collectively by a semi-sentient tin of biscuits.

Children are best seen, not heard.

I guess.

We're currently fishing...is that erratic enough?

Fishing isn't erratic, sitting there fishing and maybe drinking a beer isn't erratic, sitting there fishing, drinking a beer or two and answering a forum post at the same time could actually be percieved as erratic

Well, I cant let Immy have all th' fun - me an my daddy, and my friend Robin with her neice Krystal.


http://flickr.com/photos/marianne-mccann/

Yes, but I was talking about Malkavian vampires.


No beer.

I was going to avoid this thread like the plague. I didn't want to join in either the witch hunt, or the witch hunt bashing.

But it occurred to me in answer to the thread question, a five year old IS capable of logging on and off. A thirty-five year old is only capable of logging on.

This is a new an interesting way to be a troll and start yet another thread on a topic that has been ran into the ground many many times.

I really liked how he acted all innocent like he had never heard of the whole thing...

even though he had previously participated in a related thread months ago.

You know, I think I am going to take a few steps to the side and vent something I've been holding in for a very long time ....

The main servers and headquarters for Linden Lab and Second Life are in California in the United States. At this point they are only altering their TOS and CS for other countries to save them quite a bit of PR flak.

SO sorry for the laws you have to live under that allow such things as 'thought police' who will arrest you on trumped up charges and who are too uptight and insane as to actually think that somehow a place like Second Life is real.

I was out of communication for six months (from late august 2007 to about April 200 and have only now started to look into the back log of things that I have missed. I am already sick and tired of people from outside the US complaining about the way LL does things.

Linden Lab is NOT based in your country and it is more than likely that the have no servers present there either, let alone a remote HQ. They are NOT bound by your laws.

Personally, if it was possible I'd rather LL be based within a bloody Orbital Station as Space is owned and claimed by no single country. I'd love to see someone try and tell them what they can host then.

I don't know what the actual laws are in the UK in this respect (not my area of expertise) but I *do* know that stupid people over-react from ignorance, trying to prevent me from taking my own daughter to the lavatory at Sunday School or even taking photographs of my son playing soccer! Unsuccessfully of course.

Pep (My prejudice against dumb people - for example, those who can't spell avatar correctly - is not confined to residents of any one country)

...and while everyone has mentioned the one thread about this, I feel it my duty to point out that said posted participated in a thread older than that one.

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Of particular note



and



...where this was all explained to Michaela previously about kid avvies an stuff.

So ya, shenanigans. They have an axe to grid with kid avvies, and anything they're saying now should be met with suspicion as to its honesty or accuracy. They knew all the stuff the're claiming they did not know before.

A google search on their username was also revealing, showin' me they also seem to live in a very sexualixed context in SL, an likely did not realize at some point that there are people here who don't use SL in such a fashion. Their avatar also appears visibly underaged (teen-ish).

The RL information for michaelatv (the UK ones) was also revealing, given the line "i am a mature t-girl dress young and thinks young a recycled teenager."

Oh, and furthermore...



Mari
(Who doesn't normally take much joy in pwning someone)

The assertion that there is such a law in the UK is ludicrous. It is the same nonsensical misinterpretation that saw angry mobs picket and stone the surgeries and homes of paediatricians in the wake of tabloid hysteria designed to fuel the ignorance of idiots.

Let's clear up some of the misconceptions that people are beginning to run with as a result of the Michaelatv's bizarre view of UK law.

#1 It is not illegal in the UK for somebody to role-play a child, or talk with an adult role playing a child in a virtual environment. Or even talk with a child on-line for that matter.

#2 MichaelaTV also said "any uk person also found looking into certain areas of second life,(namely Violent acts/degrading/torture) can now be deemed guilty of an offence", and this is also untrue. He is undoubtedly thinking of the extreme pornography act introduced after the killer of Jane Longhurst was convicted. This law is ridiculous anyway because it criminalises consenting adult behaviour, and breaches the European Convention of Human Rights, but it does not apply to role-play in virtual worlds. You could only get in trouble if somebody uploaded a RL picture of the illegal pornography in question because it does not cover cartoon depictions or text, and must involve *actual* injuries to *real* people.


#3 Linden Lab's most established overseas base is in Brighton, United Kingdom, where they employ a significant number of developers. I was also under the impression that the UK office was involved in significant aspects of the overall service (like payment processing) but I could be wrong there.

And what an excellent pwn it was!

Except the OP has just made up these laws in his/her/its/their/whatever head. The OP's head sounds like a pretty interesting place to live.

its not only surprising that a 5 year old would know how to log on... its amazing that they had the knowledge and ability to actually go out and get themselves a child shape and skin and outfitted it with child clothes! thats incredible hey.

This thread delivers.

I think that quite a few of these folks who go off the deep end about child avies could use some therapy sessions, with a focus on why they project the messed up thoughts that enter their minds onto others.

Ahem ... The policy which has fueled people like the OP and given them a drive to do whatever they can to ruin Second Life for others was made after a German PR debacle. There may be no such law in the UK but apparently something similar exists elsewhere.

Now then ...

Walker, I was unaware that Linden Lab had any holdings whatsoever in the UK. All that means now is that LL has to abide by the laws in the UK. They are not yet bound to follow the laws in say .... (warning, made up country ahead) Halabakauzbekastanitoba .... No matter how much the government may whine and cry about it.

Frankly .... and yes folks, I am kidding on this one - my point in saying this next bit is that such people need to mind their own bloody business - I'd like to take all the people who whine and cry about the laws in their country not allowing them to view certain content in Second Life, as well as those who have actually caused some of the policy changed restricting or prohibiting things which - in a virtual world - have no business being restricted or prohibited (including those here in the US), put them all in the same room, lock the door ..... and flash fry them with radiation.

The only 'real' aspect to Second Life is the linden to USD conversion. The people at their keyboards do not count as they are not really a part of the program or server data.

And before someone comes along to try and tell me just how 'real' Second Life really is ... Please do not bother. Yes, we all have friends in Second Life - some we may have met in real life - there are tons of SL to RL relationship stories. I am not saying that the people and their connections to others are not real (trust me ... I know better ...) what I am saying however is that the environment itself and the avatars themselves are not real. growing attached to an avatar is about as sane as growing attached to a mass of text describing a character in the old style online RP rooms.

I have my own stories and my own experiences that lead me to holding this view and while I can understand the other side - to a point - understanding is not the same the cold, hard fact that nothing in SL is real.

anyone wanting my stories (edited of course as there is some damn personal information in them) or the exceptions to my own viewpoint can go ahead and IM me in world. Please be polite however ... I mute rude people instantly.