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Is a 5 year old capable of logging on and off??

Toy LaFollette
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09-27-2008 11:05
From: Michaelatv Destiny
No I am not loopy, otherwise I would have not been taken on as manager of a club, or made my own rental apartments or made complicated jewelry.

If you cant answer in a civil manner then i suggest you keep your facetious mouth shut collete!


Oh, now you claim your right because you manage a club, rent apts and make jewelry? I suggest you get a freaking clue.
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09-27-2008 11:19
From: Michaelatv Destiny
Is a 5 year old capable of logging on and off??
Of course! It's not hard to click the button highlighted in a bright color! ;)
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Me and a friend were in a photo studio the other day, my friend was posing, when suddenly another name appeared on her pose stand, the thing rushed past me, so I turned round to see a little girl in a pink dress.
Aw, how cute! :) Did you tell her she looked pretty and kindly take her picture too? I bet she would have appreciated a pic wearing her pretty pink dress to share with her Mommy later!
From: someone
I mean little girl! Quick as a flash I opened her profile, sure enough shes 5 year old, all her picks were all very young teen sites not found on the main grid.
Phew! Good! I would hope a cute little five year old wouldn't have, well, you know, "mature" places, unless of course she was a new five year old, or is only a five year old sometimes?
From: someone
I said hi, and asked what she was doing in the adult grid, "I lost my Mom" came the bleak reply!

Quickly I told her that this is the adult grid, not the junior one, so I said that you should go and relog,
You sent her off into the big bad world all alone?? When you believe everything you read??? :eek:
From: someone
But I was asking myself, can a 5 year old girl understand how to log in and log out?
How can a 13 year old or anyone older not understand "fiction" and "characters"?
From: someone
Any ideas on this strange happening!??
You mean cute and fun and a wonderful example of "Your World. Your Imagination."??? :rolleyes:
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09-27-2008 11:24
Wow...I know what you mean!

I was at the forum cartel last night, minding my own business just sitting at the bar, and an Alpaca popped in, and climbed right up on the couch! I mean, the ladies were impressed and all, running their hands through it's coat...oohing, and aahing...

But I mean, how did he get here? Can alpaca's log in? And how do they get internet service out in thier fields?

Inquiring minds want to know....
Michaelatv Destiny
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uk law is differant
09-27-2008 11:43
If u read carefully my updated post number 25 perhaps u will realize why we are so jumpy about this issue in uk.

Thanks for all your comments, but obviously most of u dont live in the uk where interacting or mixing of adult and child avaters in virtual worlds is now almost an offence. Wether or not there adults. "Child playing" is very much frowned upon in this country, and all i ask is u understand that this country outlaws any child playing & with adults, wether its harmless or not. the little girl in question was deff very cute, just the sort of avarter the police send in now to catch innocent people or real perverts.

This is my last post on this matter.
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09-27-2008 11:54
Look pal. You know the laws where you live better than I do. Follow them or don't. Whatever.

But why post something so easy to make fun of in the first place. "I saw a 5-year-old av. I told her to go to the teen grid. Can a real 5-year-old figure out how to log in?"

That's almost begging to be ridiculed.

But in SL, as long as the av doesn't break the TOS, it's kosher. capiche?
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09-27-2008 11:54
For those wanting to get their kids off to an early start computing, I recommend the Mavis Beacon typing software. The way the hands are shown on-screen with a keyboard, showing you just what finger to press where on the keyboard, is really good for getting them started out touch typing instead of hunt and peck. Also good for adults.

Spend enough time with them and by the time they are five you can make them file Jira isssues for you and do your Google researching.
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09-27-2008 11:55
From: Michaelatv Destiny
If u read carefully my updated post number 25 perhaps u will realize why we are so jumpy about this issue in uk.

Thanks for all your comments, but obviously most of u dont live in the uk where interacting or mixing of adult and child avaters in virtual worlds is now almost an offence. Wether or not there adults. "Child playing" is very much frowned upon in this country, and all i ask is u understand that this country outlaws any child playing & with adults, wether its harmless or not. the little girl in question was deff very cute, just the sort of avarter the police send in now to catch innocent people or real perverts.

This is my last post on this matter.


/me blinks.

I live in the UK and know of no reason why adults and child AVs can't play together, both are actually adults behind the screen ... unless playing sexually and can't see an offence unless.

Plenty play child AVs here and unless using them for paedophilia, there is nothing wrong with it ... the end.
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09-27-2008 12:06
From: Michaelatv Destiny
If u read carefully my updated post number 25 perhaps u will realize why we are so jumpy about this issue in uk.

Thanks for all your comments, but obviously most of u dont live in the uk where interacting or mixing of adult and child avaters in virtual worlds is now almost an offence. Wether or not there adults. "Child playing" is very much frowned upon in this country, and all i ask is u understand that this country outlaws any child playing & with adults, wether its harmless or not. the little girl in question was deff very cute, just the sort of avarter the police send in now to catch innocent people or real perverts.

This is my last post on this matter.

OK, I wasn't going to bother replying to this, but with that law or not, I am not going to get in trouble by simply talking to Mari or Toy or Cody at the hangout. I live in the UK. I have a child av of my own, if fact, I know a policeman who enjoys spending his time off playing as a child av. Somehow I think you may be overplaying the 'its against the law' card.
As long as it all stays PG its fine.
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09-27-2008 12:11
From: Claire Silverspar
OK, I wasn't going to bother replying to this, but with that law or not, I am not going to get in trouble by simply talking to Mari or Toy or Cody at the hangout. I live in the UK. I have a child av of my own, if fact, I know a policeman who enjoys spending his time off playing as a child av. Somehow I think you may be overplaying the 'its against the law' card.
As long as it all stays PG its fine.

Also while Police do go undercover on the Web to catch pedophiles, they always set up a RL meeting before arresting the criminal. Just talking and interacting online, is not enough, except in cases of distributing child pornography.
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09-27-2008 12:20
From: Colette Meiji
I bet a 5 year old would be capable of logging into Second Life. When my daughter was three she could change tapes in the VCR.

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Conan Godwin
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09-27-2008 12:26
From: Michaelatv Destiny
This is an adult grid after all, If this is the case, then that girl if she was 18 plus, should have her "real" legal age by the side of her 5 year old sl name!


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09-27-2008 12:27
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09-27-2008 12:38
From: Michaelatv Destiny
No I am not loopy, otherwise I would have not been taken on as manager of a club, or made my own rental apartments or made complicated jewelry.


This so going to be my next sig.


From: Michaelatv Destiny

Further more, havent you all got it into your head yet, that the united Kingdom now
PROHIBITS BY LAW any interaction with adults and supposed children Avs on these virtual worolds, wether there an adult or not, there is no leeway given now,


I'd appreciate the Hansard and/or Lexus reference numbers for this; I recieve Hansard reports monthly and don't recall seeing anything about this debated in the house at all. However, Hansard doesn't include the meetings of all the various select committees. Could it have been a white paper where you saw this proposed legislation?
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Dakota Tebaldi
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09-27-2008 12:38
From: Michaelatv Destiny

I dont want to be seen with an underage person, even if there allowed because our laws have been tightened up on these type of platforms. many people have been cought just recently by the police, posing as children, and entering these platforms and teen sites, drawing them out and making dates with them , then pouncing on them... so how Do I know if this girl was not an under cover officer.


Logically, if you don't try to make dates with child avs on Second Life, you shouldn't expect to have trouble with running afoul of these laws of yours. If a child av actually tries to get you to have sex with them, you should report them to LL. Otherwise, you're fine - don't worry.
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09-27-2008 12:46
From: Dakota Tebaldi
Logically, if you don't try to make dates with child avs on Second Life, you shouldn't expect to have trouble with running afoul of these laws of yours. If a child av actually tries to get you to have sex with them, you should report them to LL. Otherwise, you're fine - don't worry.



Top tip for dealing with child avatars; don't try to insert your penis into them. It's considered rude. Even if they invite you to.
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09-27-2008 12:47
From: Michaelatv Destiny
No I am not loopy, otherwise I would have not been taken on as manager of a club, or made my own rental apartments or made complicated jewelry.

If you cant answer in a civil manner then i suggest you keep your facetious mouth shut collete!

Further more, havent you all got it into your head yet, that the united Kingdom now
PROHIBITS BY LAW any interaction with adults and supposed children Avs on these virtual worolds, wether there an adult or not, there is no leeway given now, any uk person also found looking into certain areas of second life,(namely Violent acts/degrading/torture) can now be deemed guilty of an offence. Most of you dont have big brother breathing down your necks, so please think of us before passing judgements.

I dont want to be seen with an underage person, even if there allowed because our laws have been tightened up on these type of platforms. many people have been cought just recently by the police, posing as children, and entering these platforms and teen sites, drawing them out and making dates with them , then pouncing on them... so how Do I know if this girl was not an under cover officer.

If you have bothered to read posts from earlier in the year, a lot of uk citizens, including myself have bought to your attention this new law that affects us. thats why we are so jumpy about it.
If your laws say that you cannot even be in the vicinity of a portrayed child av, then I suggest the SL might be somewhat dangerous for you and you might want to find your fun elsewhere.
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09-27-2008 12:51
From: Colette Meiji
Okay so I remembered this guy Michaelatv's name - I knew he'd been involved in one of these "Ageplay" complaint threads before.


Here is the thread /327/f4/261572/1.html


It turned out to only be 2 posts by him,

but that thread covers a gambit of things on this issue, largely RL minors access the grid.

But also touches on the "Child Av Porn" issue.

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So it is probably disingenuous for him to claim he didn't know about this.
Figures

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09-27-2008 12:54
I thought something was seriously wrong there for a while. It had been, what? 3 or 4 days with no new, incredibly stupid anti-child av threads?

I see now that we are back on track and everything is right in the world.
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09-27-2008 13:19
From: Brenda Connolly
Paging Mari.....5, 4, 3, 2, 1.........


Sorry I'm late!

Yes, I recall the OP in a previous thread on this subject, so I ain't gonna go into th' basics. 'sides, I'd proba'ly send 'em to the wiki page. Soo really, I'm callin' shenanigans on this thread.

I do find it interesting that they immediately started in defensive, an goin' on about UK law. They do know that the majority of kids in SL are not going around doin' sexual stuff, ya? I mean, that kinda is what the law there is about -- sexual situations. A lid in a place with her mommy gettin piccies taken? Probably not sexual.

An thats the dividing line, really.

Anyway, I'm off at Burnin' Life where we jes had a huuuuge showing for an airing of the Milk 'n' Kookies radio show. The camp was full of SL kids. Many of them from the UK. ;-)

Mari

(Who is six in SL, and had no troubles logging in as early as age three)
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09-27-2008 13:23
From: Jesse Barnett
I thought something was seriously wrong there for a while. It had been, what? 3 or 4 days with no new, incredibly stupid anti-child av threads?


All I need is one "Is it cheating" thread to win "SL Forum Thread Bingo"

From: LittleMe Jewell
If your laws say that you cannot even be in the vicinity of a portrayed child av, then I suggest the SL might be somewhat dangerous for you and you might want to find your fun elsewhere.


Also, they should see the second quote in my sig :-D
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09-27-2008 13:41
From: Michaelatv Destiny


I dont want to be seen with an underage person, even if there allowed because our laws have been tightened up on these type of platforms. many people have been cought just recently by the police, posing as children, and entering these platforms and teen sites, drawing them out and making dates with them , then pouncing on them... so how Do I know if this girl was not an under cover officer.

If you have bothered to read posts from earlier in the year, a lot of uk citizens, including myself have bought to your attention this new law that affects us. thats why we are so jumpy about it.
Repeating this line: "many people have been cought just recently by the police, posing as children, and entering these platforms and teen sites, drawing them out and making dates with them , then pouncing on them"

I assume you wouldn't be interested in "dating" this girl. Or any other child av for that matter. So what is then the problem?
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09-27-2008 13:43
My 5-year-old, who has single-handedly beat both Kingom Hearts, both Pikmins, and all the Lego games, could totally log into SL. I also think he would be bored beyond belief within the first couple of minutes.
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09-27-2008 16:56
From: Michaelatv Destiny
No I am not loopy, otherwise I would have not been taken on as manager of a club, or made my own rental apartments or made complicated jewelry.


you must be loopy


From: someone

If you cant answer in a civil manner then i suggest you keep your facetious mouth shut collete!


no

From: someone

Further more, havent you all got it into your head yet, that the united Kingdom now
PROHIBITS BY LAW any interaction with adults and supposed children Avs on these virtual worolds, wether there an adult or not, there is no leeway given now, any uk person also found looking into certain areas of second life,(namely Violent acts/degrading/torture) can now be deemed guilty of an offence. Most of you dont have big brother breathing down your necks, so please think of us before passing judgements.


Wow .. interesting. Earlier today you thought this person was a for real 5 year old and didn't know how things like this could happen. And NOW you seem to know all about UK laws and everything else related to this issue.

I remember the UK law thread. Oh thats right - Because it was the other one you posted On!

Luckily whether or not its legal for you all in the UK to interact with Cartoons that sort of look like children controlled by Real Life adults doesn't really matter in SL.

Because in the US its totally Legal to do so!! yay freedom.

Although I'm sure some UK folks who are more articulate than you will come by and explain the law in a more realistic manner.

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I dont want to be seen with an underage person, even if there allowed because our laws have been tightened up on these type of platforms.


Luckily, legally, everyone in Second Life is over 18 until suspected otherwise.

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many people have been cought just recently by the police, posing as children, and entering these platforms and teen sites, drawing them out and making dates with them , then pouncing on them... so how Do I know if this girl was not an under cover officer.


What difference does that make? - you weren't going to hit on her were you?

That would have been perverted

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If you have bothered to read posts from earlier in the year, a lot of uk citizens, including myself have bought to your attention this new law that affects us. thats why we are so jumpy about it.


Yep I totally remembered --- Which is why I didn't beleive you when you said you had no idea people role-Play as Children in second Life.
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09-27-2008 16:58
From this point on forward.....

..... The OP can no longer legally view this thread, right? (^_^)y
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09-27-2008 17:05
Meh.... That's not enough... I gotta have fun with this. =^-^=

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