Do we have an "SL-Killer"?

Because it's not just sex clubs and stores that will end up having to move. The sex clubs and stores are getting a free ride. What about individuals who bought Mature land and are having that turned into PG land against their wishes, and who will have to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars more to retain the rights they currently have on their Mature land? Does that bother you? It should.

You mean like they can currently do (and in fact frequently do) in Mature regions RIGHT NOW?

Could be a nice business for land extrtionists. Roam the Mainland in a Vigilante Alt, AR'ing people who are borderline and then turn around and sell them plots in Zindra at greatly inflated prices.

Oh you got me there. I've never been good at being sociable and creative at the same time. I can't even sign my name if I'm whistling a tune at the same time.

I'd be happy to bring my sculpty business into Blue Mars if I could make real money in BM. Otherwise, forget it. It's a bit of a moot point at the moment, since I'm a Mac user. I don't need to join just for the views, either. I live on Kauai. If I want to see startlingly beautiful scenery, I'll go outside.

I've never seen public sex on the main grid. Looks to be ok in the adult rated areas though. Or is it?


I'm talking about outside of the kink clubs to clarify.

But this is the reason that LL give to justify all this mess: that many residents are complaining about seeing unwanted sex stuff while wandering aroud.

(I really don't know where these 'many' residents go - I've never saw public sex when I was not searching for it)

I have. Had someone in the next sim over rez a sex bed in the middle of his land and just go at it like knives. Now there's a "sex farm" with scripted sex animals just set out in the open diagonally across a sim corner. It's not everywhere, but it does exist, and there's a lot of stuff that's way less extreme than that that will have to move.

In fact, the assholes with the sex farm will probably qualify for a free move.

Until July 1 it's OK on Mature. Right now.

So am I.

Heh. I know THAT story:

First time I went to Hawaii, I ended up in a hotel at the west end of Waikiki. I spent all my time in Ala Moana mall. How come?

I grew up in Sydney. Bondi Beach has MUCH better surf than Waikiki, but there was only one computer store in all of Sydney at the time.

Looks like SL is quite capable of killing itself.

If I could transfer all the things I have built and purchased over the past few years into another game I would leave right now! lol For me it is the time and money invested in SL that keeps me playing, not to say that I cannot take a break from it for another place. I already signed up for the Beta at BM, we shall see

WHERE??? I wanna go play!! Take some pics for shock value for my "SL-less" friends.

and along with them their content and thier money to spend on your content... so party on dude.

is that your rodent?

is that your rodent?

I don't know, I think there are some open grids out there that are going to give SL/LL a run for their money...in time. People are getting fed up with all the debacles in SL and the change in attitude from resident based to education/commercial. I think people are actively seeking other worlds like SL use to be. Yes, they have issues to deal with in the other VW, but from what I hear of some of the other Open grids are listening and addressing these issues. Only time will tell what will happen with these evolving worlds.

laughing at that one

Bonjour.

I'm Back again.

As i see it, LL Provides us Only the Landscape, and the Tools. What SL becomes after that is (almost) entirely up to Us, the players. I've seen other platforms come and go, and the main reason they Go is Not the speed of thier servers or hardware glitches, but that they try to be an SL with a restricted format. They Play to a specific Genre whereas SL makes it possible for all imaginable genre's to exist side by side.

SL Endures because it has (almost) unlimited flexability, and possibilities. As soon as a new platform says "We're like SL, But Without XXXXX" they have already excluded players who don't want thier preferred activity restricted. If they say "We are like SL, Only set in XXXXXX" they exclude potential players who aren't interested in that genre.

So, what's left for New Platforms to Attract people?

They could say, "We're just like SL" Full Stop. Ok, No point in going there because we are already established here, as are thousands of others, why go to a New Platform where you have all the same Tools, But the CONTENT isn't there because they are where SL was six years ago?

"Like SL but Better, Stronger, Faster"? Sure, Possible when it's small, But as soon as it gets as Big as SL, the same Problems LL is dealing with will Crop up there as well. Some Difficulties are simply Indemic to Operating Larger systems.

I'm not Particularly worried about Any Platform becoming an "SL Killer" Because to me the Effort looks like a Bunch of Kittens trying to take down a Tiger. They have the Potential, But the Tiger still has the advantage of Age, experience, Size, and strength. That counts for a Lot.

Nice to see you all again.

Angel.

Doing things SL can't.

Something that had almost everything SL does, plus custom avatar skeletons and meshes, cooperative scripting capabilities like MUDs and Mucks, non-linear building... that would get me, eventually. But something that's got better graphics and more restrictions? I entirely agree, unnecessary restrictions aren't a benefit.

Last night my G/F and I were looking at the videos of BM on YouTube. She liked the looks but had so many negative comments that I think she will try it for the novelty and leave it at that. Our discussion started off being about the servers and how nice BM is going to be at first with all that unused bandwidth.

Middle of talk was about the limits BM has set. One inpreticular point being the lack of in world creativity.

Discussion ended with how nice BM will be toward it's demise with all that unused bandwidth.

I will take a free account for a spin, but for now I only see my BM activity limited to when the SL grid is down. How often and for how long I will be in BM is up to LL. I will be investing $0.00 into BM unless it exceeds my expectations in a spectacular fashion.

Wow, what a sweeping statement. Argent the anarchist!

So, you would throw out the TOS and the CS, with all their restrictions?

So, for example, you would allow:

Child porn
Gambling
No age restrictions, all welcome
Misleading, offensive or infringing avatar names
Intolerance
Harassment
Assault
Disclosure
Indecency
Disturbing the peace
Copyright infringement

However, I would argue that most people believe that some restrictions are most definitely a benefit.

What can be argued, is whether any particular restriction is a benefit, or a liability. But your statement precludes that.

Rock

As a creator in both SL and BM I can tell you there is no comparison. SL creation is very poor indeed compared with BM.

Here is a side-by-side comparison of the tools available to both:

http://rock-vacirca.blogspot.com/2009/06/creation-tools-second-life-v-blue-mars.html

It really is a no-brainer.

Rock

Are those separate applications, or all in the one application? I take it you are referring to the SDK, and not the simple object Viewer?

I have applied for the SDK, but only have the viewer so far. Can't wait!!

Those tools are parts of the SDK, yes... See this page for more information on the individual "sub-editors" : http://www.crymod.com/board.php?boardid=140

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Yes, all the tools and Editors are in one application, the Sandbox Editor (part of the SDK).

Basically you can create a new world from scratch, including the terrain, terrain texturing, cover it with lush vegetation, create rivers, lakes and waterfalls, create roads, bridges, build a town, down to the last detail, edit the mataerials, create sounds, animations, the weather, etc etc, all in one application. Once the world is just to your liking, you can upload it. On the 7th day you can have a rest!

Rock