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adults, playing children, in mature sims

Brenda Connolly
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09-23-2007 19:49
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i spew on the forums because thats all you get and thats all you deserve. when you start acting like decent human beings then i will change my tone. i wont be engaging in this debate at all. you can say anything you want about my posts but the truth is im so indignant about the whole thing youd just be wasting your energy. my intention is to claim my personal power as a grown adult and do what is right for me with no care or thought what so ever to how you feel about it. What do you think of those apples?

Can we use them to make pie?
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Har Fairweather
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09-23-2007 19:58
From: Brenda Connolly
Can we use them to make pie?


Hopefully before they get spewed...
Colette Meiji
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09-23-2007 20:01
From: Har Fairweather
Hopefully before they get spewed...


I vote for non spewed apples.
Susie Boffin
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09-23-2007 20:11
I vote that people don't post "humerous quips" and stick to the subject. :)
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09-23-2007 20:34
From: Susie Boffin
I vote that people don't post "humerous quips" and stick to the subject. :)



After 7 pages and over 100 posts in the 100th thread on this subject, is there really anything else to be said of any substance?
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Amelia Freund
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09-23-2007 20:38
I don't understand. Why shouldnt child av's be allowed in mature sims?? Most kids malls are in a mature sim, maybe some adoption centres too. Probably a lot of other activities for kids in SL involve entering a mature sim. They're unavoidable IMO.
Toy LaFollette
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09-23-2007 20:43
From: Amelia Freund
I don't understand. Why shouldnt child av's be allowed in mature sims?? Most kids malls are in a mature sim, maybe some adoption centres too. Probably a lot of other activities for kids in SL involve entering a mature sim. They're unavoidable IMO.


Actually we are allowed on M parcels. We simply stay away and avoid any sexual activity. I shop at some M parcels and have visited other child avs homes on M parcels.

What the vast majority child avs dont want to have ANY contact with is sexual behaviour.

BTW Susie I agree but we must let some raise their post count for some obscure reason :)
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Nina Stepford
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09-23-2007 20:47
rl kids live in 'mature sims' as well.
except maybe when they visit disneyland.
From: Amelia Freund
I don't understand. Why shouldnt child av's be allowed in mature sims?? Most kids malls are in a mature sim, maybe some adoption centres too. Probably a lot of other activities for kids in SL involve entering a mature sim. They're unavoidable IMO.
Susie Boffin
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09-23-2007 20:54
If someone has an av I don't like I simply don't look at it whether it is a child av or one of the many obnoxious avs I see in the welcome areas. Why make it an issue? Just ignore them.

If more people would learn some tolerance SL would be a better world for all of us.
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Colette Meiji
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09-23-2007 21:56
From: Nina Stepford
rl kids live in 'mature sims' as well.
except maybe when they visit disneyland.



For all those parents of young kids IRL, teach them to knock before entering into a room. Teach them young, teach them well.

Otherwise when you think they are asleep- they might not be- and them coming into your room wanting a glass of water during your moment of "Adult content" will become extremely embarassing.
Colette Meiji
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09-23-2007 22:20
From: Toy LaFollette
Actually we are allowed on M parcels. We simply stay away and avoid any sexual activity.


Kid avs should be allowed anywhere adult avs are.

The policy doesnt say anything about where kid Avs can go.

Only that sexual depictions (in any form) involving kid avs is not allowed.

For example, I think someone who ARs a kid Av for being clothed walking on a nude beach is basically a griefer.

Even though as Toy And Mari said they would avoid those places, I dont see how you interpret what little LL has said on the matter to include what content someone can SEE while wearing their kid Av.
Marianne McCann
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09-23-2007 23:16
From: Colette Meiji
Even though as Toy And Mari said they would avoid those places, I dont see how you interpret what little LL has said on the matter to include what content someone can SEE while wearing their kid Av.


/me nods

They have made no policy about what a child avatar can or might see. Such is, essentially irrelevant, as there is no issue which an adult (even an adult in a child avatar) witnessing mature content.

And yes, while I by no means seek out such content, accidents *can* always happen. Bits and Bobs sells a lot of non-sexual poses in the front area of their main store, for example, plus there's a great "braid hair" just inside the door of the room with the other poses. I could find a place in search that sounds innocent enough, only to get there ad see something unseemly going on in or near there. Someone could even deliberately TP me into some really bad place (though I do tend to decline unsolicited TPs).

In the end, however, I know that I, as a player am well aware of what might be out there. As a character, heck, a lot of what might be out there would be well over my head, too.

Mari
(Who is not going to test this by visitin' the OPs "erotic art store" she advertises in her profile)
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Cristalle Karami
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09-24-2007 00:47
I have friends who had an SL child, but she grew up hella fast once the ageplay thing broke. I understand the desire to rp having a family, and that would mean someone rping the child at some point. I have no problems with child avs, but I do have problems with them if they are seemingly sexually active in their profiles or in inappropriate places.
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Sally Silvera
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09-24-2007 01:44
erm the title of the post says it all doesn't it?

adults, .........., in mature sims ;)


I've met quite a few kids on my adventures, simply because I also enjoy simple fun stuff like the logrides, rollercoasters and such. I don't see how they are any different from the so-called grown-ups. Some are nice, others aren't. Though I would be tempted to say I've met more grown-up idiots than kids of the same description. Anyone met any kids griefing?

And totally agree with Colette
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Kid avs should be allowed anywhere adult avs are.The policy doesnt say anything about where kid Avs can go. Only that sexual depictions (in any form) involving kid avs is not allowed. For example, I think someone who ARs a kid Av for being clothed walking on a nude beach is basically a griefer. Even though as Toy And Mari said they would avoid those places, I dont see how you interpret what little LL has said on the matter to include what content someone can SEE while wearing their kid Av.
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I would also urge the OP to read Mari's many many posts in the numerous other threads on this subject carefully. Seems the younger ones can be the wiser.
Chav Paderborn
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09-24-2007 03:15
Back when I was a child-av, I was often on Mature sims. There are a lot of places with nothing "dodgy" on them that just happen to be on Mature sims (I've owned land on PG and M, with the same content, just based on where was cheap when I was buying). You can't block kid avs from Mature sims, because being in one doesn't in any way indicate an attempt to do something that might be inappropriate.

Lots of shops, as mentioned, have a mix of content. Even as an adult av I can end up in places with Mature content when I'm looking for something that'd be PG. Even just clothes shops that sell skins and are Mature because they need to have pictures of the naked skin when everything else is PG.

And, yeah, accidents can happen. You don't always know what you're teleporting to. Landmarks change, land has confusing or opaque descriptions, people TP you without worrying about the rating of the sim.

And, err, yeah, all the child avs on the main grid are over 18 in RL.
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Shad Raffke
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09-24-2007 06:04
From: DJ Jenns
Yes, it's allowed.


Is it also allowed for an adult avie who claims they are 18+, yet in reality they still have the brain of child?
Ann Launay
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09-24-2007 06:23
From: Shad Raffke
Is it also allowed for an adult avie who claims they are 18+, yet in reality they still have the brain of child?


Judging from the number of griefers on the grid, I'd have to say yes. :p
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09-24-2007 06:57
From: Sally Silvera
I would also urge the OP to read Mari's many many posts in the numerous other threads on this subject carefully.


Many, many, many, many, many posts. :-)

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09-24-2007 07:01
From: Shad Raffke
Is it also allowed for an adult avie who claims they are 18+, yet in reality they still have the brain of child?


I'd rather have the maturely* behaving child avis any day than the 'adult' looking jerks who act like they will never grow up.

* By mature, I mean, proper manners, care for others, etc. Get your minds out of the gutter! There's not enough room in it for mine!
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09-24-2007 09:05
From: Marianne McCann
Many, many, many, many, many posts. :-)
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I didn't want to fill the entire page ;)
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09-24-2007 09:46
From: hope Ronmark
i do not think most people think that, I see a child av on a pg sim, no biggie, on a mature sim, i wonder why they are there. I also think that selling seesaws, swingsets next to BDSM equipment is wrong. but then, i just avoid places like that.

i really did not mean to cause such an uproar about this, but it seems that there is a lot of differences here about child avs.

i wont own mature land when 3 child AV's live on the plot next to mine. child avs should not be in mature land. its for adults. and if your not an adult in SL, your not mature for that sim.

my opinion. just voicing it


and so are others. if you choose not to buy mature land where there is the possiblility of a child ava being near, then you shouldn't. if you "really did not mean to cause such an uproar", then you would never have started this thread. Child avs can go anywhere they choose, provided, as Collette stated, that they are not engaged in sexual activity.

the fact that you wont own mature land just because 3 kid avs live next door makes me wonder, as you do not have to interact with them. but if thats how you feel, then thats how you feel.
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09-24-2007 09:57
i really did not mean to cause such an uproar about this, but it seems that there is a lot of differences here about child avs.


Hope: I don't think there is a lot of differences concerning child avs--there's yours and then ours! I think ours has the majority. Let it drop!
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