adults, playing children, in mature sims

An opinion, but not what LL policies present PG and Mature as.

PG - Second Life uses a rating system for sims to let the user know what type of content/behavior to expect in that area. PG areas can not contain nudity, sexual content, or profanity. The Community Standards apply to all PG areas.

Mature - Second Life uses a rating system for sims to let the user know what type of content/behavior to expect in that area. Mature or (M) regions may include (among other things) profanity, nudity, and sexual content. The Second Life Community Standards still apply in these areas, so discretion is still recommended.

Again, this is a action-base, not an avatar base.

Mari

People who see a child AV and immediately think there's paedophillia involved need to take a look at themselves. This is the sort of nonsense that leads to paediatricians getting attacked.

mari, interesting about you web page. with an escort ad on it, on a childs about me page. I am also guessing that you do not speak english very well, and that is why you do not use it correctly. or at least i hope so, your typing words sound JUST like my 16 year old sons.

sorry, had to say it, just does not seem right.

I know we are not really allowed to nitpick other people's language proficiencies, but have you actually looked at your own posts?

I can distinguish between Mari "in character" and "in general" pretty well.

And I think you misunderstand a few things here. Do you mean Mari's photos? That is SLuniverse, I don't think you can choose which ads it displays.

i do not think most people think that, I see a child av on a pg sim, no biggie, on a mature sim, i wonder why they are there. I also think that selling seesaws, swingsets next to BDSM equipment is wrong. but then, i just avoid places like that.

i really did not mean to cause such an uproar about this, but it seems that there is a lot of differences here about child avs.

i wont own mature land when 3 child AV's live on the plot next to mine. child avs should not be in mature land. its for adults. and if your not an adult in SL, your not mature for that sim.

my opinion. just voicing it

no, the ad on the page. i refreshed it quite a few times, to see if it was a click ad, didn't change. its a link.
and no, my typing sucks, but maybe thats because of a physical disability that makes typing very difficult. when one can not bend their head, typing becomes not so easy

HEY LEAVE MARI ALONE!

Sorry to hear that- it was just me thinking of glass houses....but I was wondering if you meant the page where Mari's photos are on-not the photos themselves. That is SLuniverse, with the snapzilla pics?

Actually, I speak English just fine, thanks. I usually speak in a RP "voice" here and elsewhere. I'll drop it for you in this post. You might wish to know, if we're going to speak of use of the English language, that proper english requires use of capital letters. Likewise, you should not start a sentence with a conjunction (or). You also should have an apostrophe in "child's"

Which page are you speaking of? Would it be the one at sl.me? I used to use that site, but have largely moved away from this in part because of their centralized advertising (I do not have control over what is there) and in part because I have found their site to be less than user-friendly.

I just looked there, in fact, and did indeed see an escort ad at page bottom. Seems to be on everyone's page, so I have to assume they are a major underwriter of the site. They were not when I joined their site in early 2006. Note how dated my content is there, by the way.

Are you, therefore, implying because a third-party has attached an advertisement to a site that I had a profile at, therefore I am to blame for their choice? I also display photos taken in-world at Snapzilla. Am I to be condemned by the "Bootylicious" animation ad that randomly appears on the same site, sometimes near my own photos? Heck, let's take this to the full extreme: I also write for the Metaverse Messenger, am I by extension responsible for any of the content of their newspaper?

Or are you, instead, tossing this witch on your fire? Think carefully, as this is *not* a laughing matter to me.

Mari

This is faulty logic. I believe Hitler was a narrow minded bigot. That doesn't make me narrow minded because I can clearly see the flaw in him.

As far as "Not listed in TOS" I'm too lazy to read and cut/paste, but I remember a clause about "illegal acts and violation of U.S. law" in there.

Visual depictions of child abuse are illegal.
SL is visual.

End of story.

/hugs
Sorry for adding to your stress this weekend Princess. Take a deep breath and keep being the wonderful person you are.

Thankoo, daddy

/me sends a non-broadly offensive hug

Mari

Okay.

Before anyone loses ALL sense of proportion.

Please remember all the Account holders are adults.

The ban is on sexual images involving child avatars. Such as Nude child avatar screen shots, Child Avatars involved in pixel sex, etc.

What a child Avatar "Sees" is not banned. At all. There is nothing wrong with someone using a child avatar inadvertnetly being in a parcel next to a strip club. Becuase the child Avatar is an Adult player and that adult player is not restricted from seeing anything a player in an adult Avatar isnt.

They are only prohibited from using their child avatar in a manner which would be called sexual.

Linden Labs wont come down and give exact definitions. But no where have they stated anywhere that a child avatar cant BE somwhere or SEE something. Only that they cant be depicted in certain ways.


So a Child avatar acting out the roles of Escort, Stripper, Sex Slave, Nude Model, or any form of sex partner - Is Banned.

A Child Avatar physically being in the same room as a Escort, Stripper, Sex Slave, Nude Model, or someone that has sex, is not Regulated as far as anything in the Blog Posts or TOS.


So the person who has the kids next door to her Mature plot - they arent doing anything wrong. And you dont need to worry if they see you naked.

On a more lighthearted note- a drawing I made as a five-year-old kid. I was SO not a nice girl! (Not like Mari at all-I'd have done a fireworks show just to blow stuff up! )

http://alexandra-velten.net/pix/greencat.jpg
Edit: The picture is perfectly PG, it just shows that apparently some kids have a less innocent imagination than others...

Wonderful response. You're the coolest, Mari! I hope you and your SL family are around for a long time-- you add a much-needed element of charm and sweetness.

But that's not LL's rule. The entire grid is 18+. The distinction between PG and mature only has to do with the content you *can* display there, and language issues. It has nothing to do with the AV types that may be present there.

If someone is sick enough to roleplay as a child, and suck off a grown mans dick, they need to be stopped. I can not fathom how anyone could say thats ok even in second life.

-Child avis NOT engaging in sexual acts- that`s fine, have fun, to each their own.
-Child avis engaging in sexual acts- repulsive and sick.

................They are 2 very different things and people need to distinguish between the two. Just because someone is playing a child avi doesn`t mean they are involved in sexual activities.

But this will be my last post on it because i`m not about to get into an argument over this.

Agreed. There is no mistaking the sexual element is a different matter.
We all are here in SL for many reasons. Many of us, myself included, are exploring different aspects of our personalities. From all the profiles I read there is a wide range of exploring going on. And I have yet to read one that shows anything that gives them the right to judge others.

It seems some people cannot differentiate between being a cow and eating a hamburger.

i thought summer reruns were over?

This show seems to be in Syndication.

figures Hearst n Co. would pick this show up....dang republicans>_<!!

i spew on the forums because thats all you get and thats all you deserve. when you start acting like decent human beings then i will change my tone. i wont be engaging in this debate at all. you can say anything you want about my posts but the truth is im so indignant about the whole thing youd just be wasting your energy. my intention is to claim my personal power as a grown adult and do what is right for me with no care or thought what so ever to how you feel about it. What do you think of those apples?

Hi Hope I am kind of curious why you asked this question.

i agree that they are two different issues. clearly not all child avis are here for sexual activity. in fact, i think age-play avi's are a minute minority.
that being said, everyone here is (supposedly) an adult. i think it is naive to expect that a child avatar is a child irl. imo its more likely the 7-foor tall DD bimbo is the rl child hey. so if a pair of adults find some satisfaction is roleplaying teacher/student i really couldnt care less. people do this kind of rp in their rl bedrooms everyday, and it does not offend me. its an av, not an actual child, see... i have my own things to worry about. far be it from me to worry about what consenting adults on the other side of the grid are up to.