Blue Mars Progress
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Rock Vacirca
riches to rags
Join date: 18 Oct 2006
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08-11-2009 15:32
From: Sony Swords BM is designed to use Cryengine which will never work with Mac, so do not tell fantasy stories here. No fantasy. From the BM devs: From: someone Re: Blue Mars on Macs, we have successfully tested it in Bootcamp on several Macs in our office, as well as several beta testers & devs. Rock
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Milla Janick
Empress Of The Universe
Join date: 2 Jan 2008
Posts: 3,075
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08-11-2009 15:35
From: Rock Vacirca No fantasy. From the BM devs: More accurately, it will not run under the MacOS.
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Clarissa Lowell
Gone. G'bye.
Join date: 10 Apr 2006
Posts: 3,020
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08-11-2009 15:37
Not gonna run a second program simply to run a game that I know nothing about.
Also on some older machines that would be crippling lag.
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Sony Swords
Linux Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
Join date: 17 Jan 2009
Posts: 176
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08-11-2009 15:52
From: Clarissa Lowell Not gonna run a second program simply to run a game that I know nothing about.
Also on some older machines that would be crippling lag. Well, a new PC that runs a High-End game is not that expensive anymore. Its almost 2010 and Hardware is pretty cheap. Who wants to sit in front of an "older" system anyway. Even my mom got a brand new system. Last word to Rock. See Rock; You are a City developer using Google Sketch because Maya is too expensive or just to hard to learn for you. But you really can't design or develop Cities for High-End games using Google Sketch to get a High-End environment. End of the story.
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Novis Dyrssen
Girl Geek
Join date: 6 May 2007
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08-11-2009 16:16
*considers double dating because she feels madly in love with Sony now* 
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
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08-11-2009 17:20
From: Rock Vacirca No fantasy. From the BM devs: Running under Boot Camp ≠ Running on a Mac. When people say "Running on a Mac," they typically mean "running under Mac OS X." A misnomer, to be sure, but an important distinction. Running under Boot Camp simply means its running under Windows.
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Clarissa Lowell
Gone. G'bye.
Join date: 10 Apr 2006
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08-11-2009 17:37
From: Sony Swords Well, a new PC that runs a High-End game is not that expensive anymore. Its almost 2010 and Hardware is pretty cheap. Who wants to sit in front of an "older" system anyway. Even my mom got a brand new system. Even your mom. Hehee. Ok. Well anyway, every PC I ever had is gathering dust. Crashed, every single one, including a very high end laptop I had. My Mac is brand new basically and is the best one they offered from the new lineup. But I don't want to install windows programs on it. It's a Mac.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
Forums Rock!
Join date: 22 Dec 2003
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08-11-2009 17:53
After downloading "BlueMars_WebSetup.exe" and running it, the installation proceeds for a while, and gets to a point where it displays the software as "Blue Mars", the version as 0.0.4639.1, and after clicking the "Next" button, I get an error message as follows:
Runtime error in setup script: Source File: Blue Mars Line Number: 146 RichEdit line insertion error.
Will the developer's client serve the same function as this client?
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Sony Swords
Linux Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
Join date: 17 Jan 2009
Posts: 176
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08-11-2009 18:03
From: Marianne McCann Running under Boot Camp ≠ Running on a Mac. When people say "Running on a Mac," they typically mean "running under Mac OS X." A misnomer, to be sure, but an important distinction. Running under Boot Camp simply means its running under Windows. Right! A similar way with Linux. The software "Wine" lets you run "some" Windows applications under Linux. But still those applications are designed for Windows only. Rock and other SLer are making the mistake inside BM community talking about SL which won't help BM either. *lol However; Rock is right when he says "be patient". So lets be patient and forget about BM inside SL. BM management got people to inform and promote - outside SL. Sorry Rock I hope u understand but this must be said 
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Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
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08-11-2009 19:13
From: Angel Leviathan What Is You Question? No Question needed, this is the Resident Answers Forum, not Resident Questions 
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Tegg Bode
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08-11-2009 19:16
From: Novis Dyrssen *yawns*
Alternatively, I'd like to remind you of the NDA you signed, dear Rock. Please stick to it, if only to spare us non-followers the boredom. Never fear, one day the forums will be upgraded and people won't be forced to open threads they have no interest in 
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Snickers Snook
Odd Princess - Trout 7.3
Join date: 17 Apr 2007
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08-11-2009 19:28
From: Tegg Bode Never fear, one day the forums will be upgraded and people won't be forced to open threads they have no interest in  Haha. Yeah we'll be forced to use the blog software and no one will want to start a thread ever again.
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Snickers Snook
Odd Princess - Trout 7.3
Join date: 17 Apr 2007
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08-11-2009 19:34
From: Sony Swords BM management got people to inform and promote - outside SL. Personally, I like reading about alternatives to SL. I have no plans to go use Blue Mars but that doesn't mean I don't want to hear about it. Sony, IMHO, it's up to LL to clean up their backyard (these forums) with respect to whether threads are blatantly OT or violate the TOS somehow. AR Rock if you feel strongly about it. Calling for the thread to be pulled publicly when we all know LL doesn't really follow this venue is not too productive/
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Sony Swords
Linux Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
Join date: 17 Jan 2009
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08-11-2009 20:40
From: Snickers Snook Personally, I like reading about alternatives to SL. I have no plans to go use Blue Mars but that doesn't mean I don't want to hear about it.
Sony, IMHO, it's up to LL to clean up their backyard (these forums) with respect to whether threads are blatantly OT or violate the TOS somehow. AR Rock if you feel strongly about it. Calling for the thread to be pulled publicly when we all know LL doesn't really follow this venue is not too productive/ They still follow this. You just have to look up the last "closed" BM thread  If you like to read about alternatives use Google etc. and look up the original source websites or Blocks. So you get all brand new information out of first hand. Rock is a man and I am a man myself - so who needs an AR *lol Talking with your co-workers about other companies business is really not productive *lmao
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Lyla Tunwarm
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Join date: 10 Jul 2008
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08-11-2009 21:04
From: Sony Swords Talking with your co-workers about other companies business is really not productive *lmao
Unless they offer you more money. 
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Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
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08-12-2009 00:53
From: Sony Swords close this thread .... we are in SL and not BM Better yet introduce a system where people who don't want to read a thread can automatically ignore it as they are obviously too weak in willpower to manage that themselves. Then again maybe they are just control freaks who don't want anything that doesn't fit in with their ideal forum world, as there's seems to be a lot of posts here by people _not interested_ in the thread. Maybe some people just get a warm and fuzzy feeling knowing they have locked others out of something they didn't like. It's ironic, I wouldn't even have found SL if it weren't for it being posted in another games forum where the control freaks were trying to close it just like they are here and the thread didn't get locked 
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Conifer Dada
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Join date: 6 Oct 2006
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08-12-2009 02:01
From: someone You know, I i never thought a VW could have a worse name than Second Life, .......Legend City? There? Twinity? HiPiHi!!!
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23rdDjin Negulesco
Unfinished Build Master
Join date: 30 May 2007
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08-12-2009 02:04
From: Somatika Xiao You know, I i never thought a VW could have a worse name than Second Life
i dunno... they ALL seem like pretty silly names for a Volkswagen... ~
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Conifer Dada
Hiya m'dooks!
Join date: 6 Oct 2006
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08-12-2009 02:06
From: someone You know, I i never thought a VW could have a worse name than Second Life, ......Passat? Jetta? Touareg?
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Lance Corrimal
I don't do stupid.
Join date: 9 Jun 2006
Posts: 877
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08-12-2009 02:56
From: Conifer Dada ......Passat? Jetta? Touareg? Scirocco. the new one. *drools*
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Rock Vacirca
riches to rags
Join date: 18 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,093
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08-12-2009 03:57
From: SuezanneC Baskerville After downloading "BlueMars_WebSetup.exe" and running it, the installation proceeds for a while, and gets to a point where it displays the software as "Blue Mars", the version as 0.0.4639.1, and after clicking the "Next" button, I get an error message as follows:
Runtime error in setup script: Source File: Blue Mars Line Number: 146 RichEdit line insertion error.
Will the developer's client serve the same function as this client? Hi SuezanneC, I think the developer's client does not connect you to the Blue Mars city servers, it seems to allow you to generate your own portal to your own cities. If you log-in via the dev client you will notice no city boards to take you further. The client is the only way to connect to the BM servers AFAIK. If you post your prob in the BM forum admin may have a fix, otherwise it's a bug ticket. Rock
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Tod69 Talamasca
The Human Tripod ;)
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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08-12-2009 04:31
I look at it this way: Competition.
Lack of competition breeds no new innovation.
SL needs something to come along & kick it in the laggy ass.
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Rock Vacirca
riches to rags
Join date: 18 Oct 2006
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08-12-2009 04:34
From: Tegg Bode It's ironic, I wouldn't even have found SL if it weren't for it being posted in another games forum where the control freaks were trying to close it just like they are here and the thread didn't get locked  I have noticed that too on all the other forums I visit, a small subset of the regulars who wish to control what the others read and find interesting. For info, SL is regularly discussed in both the Opensim and Blue Mars forums. I am glad to see that SL does not now lock down threads discussing other VWs. I got a warning myself last year from Kat Linden about discussing OpenSim, when it was pointed out by another Linden to her that SL and Opensim were currently working on a joint project to allow teleports between the grids (I was a member of that team). Since then, other VWs can be discussed, but I think the line is that you should not openly promote them by posting price comparisons etc. You can be sure that LL is taking a very keen interest in BM, and are following everything that is currently being written. One of the first rules of business is to follow and anticipate the actions of your competitors. Residents of SL, particularly those with business interests here, should also be keeping a close eye on alternatives to SL, as both threats and opportunities exist. Joining SL a few years ago has never stopped me from visiting and exploring other VWs. I have enjoyed the experience so much I start writing about my experiences, and still do. I offer praise where praise is due, and constructive criticism where I feel changes would enhance the experience, with concrete suggestions. Some of the features of BM are simply breathtaking, and I am sure SL are planning on how to respond. This will be good news for everyone, as I for one do not want a SL that stagnates, but rises to the challenge of young upstarts like Blue Mars, and pours on the goodies. Work is currently going on with regards to moving builds between SL and BM. Pressure is growing for SL to adopt mesh imports, which could lead to builds moving in both directions. I hope SL and BM get together in the same way as SL and Opensim did, and some common interchange standards get adopted. SL is in the best position of them all to lead the way on this. For me, VWs are not an either/or decision, I embrace them all (but when it comes to Twinity - god give me strength). If anyone is going to the Game Developers' Conference in Cologne next week, I shall be there. Top of my list will be the Crytek booth, where they will be demonstrating the CryEngine3, and something called LiveBuild. Can't wait! Rock
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Dain Shan
Registered User
Join date: 28 Mar 2008
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08-12-2009 04:45
I will be there Rock. At Saturday cause in the evening we have a Usermeeting of SL Users in cologne too.
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Novis Dyrssen
Girl Geek
Join date: 6 May 2007
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08-12-2009 05:14
From: Rock Vacirca Hi SuezanneC, I think the developer's client does not connect you to the Blue Mars city servers If you had half the brain cells you proclaim to sport, you'd have seen that she was talking about the client, not the developer's client, which is "BlueMarsDev_WebSetup.exe". Kthnxbai. From: SuezanneC Baskerville After downloading "BlueMars_WebSetup.exe" Funny thing with this is that it now lets you choose which of the cities to install. So, back to my theory - this is not flexible online content. It may be to a certain extent (high) end user created, but it'll be just another download & install game.
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