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Batman Abbot
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Join date: 16 Sep 2009
Posts: 87
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09-20-2009 06:25
From: Anya Ristow
I think it will be decades, if ever, before a bot will pass a Turing test, but I think the bar for "interesting" is a lot lower than you think. "Normal people" aren't looking for intellectual debate in their social contacts. Smalltalk seems to suffice. A bot that passes the Turing test will suffice. Fill a virtual world with them and most people will have all the intellectual challenge they find in real-life conversation.
Most people won't talk to a bot. When we have a conversation we want people to really get our jokes and to really understand what we're saying. Not pretend to understand! If smarter bots did start to show up then people would develop techniques for exposing a bot in the first few messages. Turing test judges are incredibly gentle with the chatter bots that they test. They know they could expose a bot in an instant, but instead they usually start with a few mundane messages just for the fun of it. There will come a time when an AI can really understand what we're talking about, but by then they'll be considered equal to humans and will be given rights. Therefore it'll probably be highly illegal to trap a sentient being in a virtual nightclub for entertainment purposes. And even if it wasn't illegal then I'm sure the AI would simply sulk and refuse to slide up and down the pole for you!. "Piss off, human!" |
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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09-20-2009 06:26
From: Anya Ristow What's your stake? My stake is I don't have an obsession about proving that people are running conversational bots that are good enough to even pass as n00bs. |
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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09-20-2009 06:27
From: Batman Abbot And even if it wasn't illegal then I'm sure the AI would simply sulk and refuse to slide up and down the pole for you!. "Piss off, human!" What a polite bot, I'd imagine it would be more like "Piss off, meatbag!" |
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Lance Corrimal
I don't do stupid.
Join date: 9 Jun 2006
Posts: 877
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09-20-2009 13:29
From: Wynochee LeShelle I still think that BM is only a museum, made for tourists. That. on second thought... BM is the TECHNOLOGY to bguild nothing but museums for tourists. or in other words, BM as it is now is about as fascinating as a stack of halfbricks. |
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Rock Vacirca
riches to rags
Join date: 18 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,093
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09-20-2009 15:35
From: Lance Corrimal for all I've read so far, you CAN'T.
Unless you buy a whole city from them.
At some unknown point in the future.
For some unknown amount that will most likely be a multiple of the cost of a single sim in SL. The people that will be able to upload content into Blue Mars are: 1. The City Owners (a City can be up to 8Km x 8Km, or about 1024 SL regions. The standard size will be 2Km x 2Km, or about 64 SL regions). 2. The Block Owners (a Block is a subdivision of a City, and is about the same size as a SL region. A Block owner has a special Block Editor). 3. All residential and commercial tenants of the above (Store owners get a Shop Editor, for uploading their merchandise). VSE have announced that they will be leasing in BM from the middle of October. The target date for the full opening of Blue Mars is the 1st Jan 2010 The amount that VSE will charge is yet to be announced, and the cost of Cities is still under the NDA, but that should be lifted in the next two weeks. Then all the speculation about costs will be put to rest. Rock |