Does Anyone Actually Use VoiceChat?
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Jax Jevon
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11-13-2007 21:04
From: Jax Jevon I use it when ever possible .
It is my prefered mode of communication.
lets face it .. it's easier than typing.
Almost as easy as communicatin' in RL .. Just talk .. 'xept press the button . ( this is no hardship as I'm CB'er and radio ham )
( 2x1yz .. (two xray one yankee zulu )(UK CB ) .. ( 2e0IUI ..two echo zero india uniform india )(UK amateur )
Gizza shout .. monitor 27.515USB .. plus 2m and 70cm all modes ( includes SSTV ).
I try real hard to accept all the "girls" that have excuses and leave them be.. ... not one for trouble ( and I'm not into that kind of thing ).
Most new people will use voice as you would in RL .. ( take it or leave it ) ..
Said .. I feel sorry for the Role Players . I qoute my first post here .. where was there a question .. if You boys read propperly .. I even said I feel sorry for the role players .. nuff said? sorry Colette and Susie .. You both made a big deal outta nothing .. I still feel sorry for your husband .
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Colette Meiji
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11-13-2007 21:06
From: Jax Jevon My true colours have been here from the start .. Those would be the true colors where you accuse complete strangers of being gender benders because they don't agree with *you*. Impressive. What do you do for an Encore? Make up racial jokes?
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Jax Jevon
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11-13-2007 21:08
Please post a " Quote" where You imagine I said this.
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Susie Boffin
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11-13-2007 21:08
I don't even want to dismiss him as a total idiot sis. He belongs somewhere below that.
Besides being an idiot his smugness is amazing. Let's see how long he likes being made a fool of.
Regards lol
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Colette Meiji
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11-13-2007 21:23
From: Susie Boffin I don't even want to dismiss him as a total idiot sis. He belongs somewhere below that.
Besides being an idiot his smugness is amazing. Let's see how long he likes being made a fool of.
Regards lol The one that is making Jax look like a fool is Jax. Sad thing is he doesn't even realize it.
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Wilhelm Neumann
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11-13-2007 22:12
From: Susie Boffin Why are you asking "girls" who are not using voice why they aren't? Just curious. For that matter why is he not ALSO asking guys why they are not voicing while he is at it  If we are going to prob and prod where we should be minding our own business lets be an "equal opportunity" prober and proder 
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Wilhelm Neumann
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11-13-2007 22:15
From: Jax Jevon Please post a " Quote" where You imagine I said this. that would be the part where you try to leave them alone and the rest well read it for youself you wrote it  honestly if they are role playing which is a huge part of sl even though no one actualy wants to admit it then what does it matter to you and why do you feel bad? among other things :+)
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Sera Lok
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11-14-2007 04:48
I rarely use open voice chat because honestly, I find it a nuisance. Case in point, a totally inappropriate (and pretty pompous/corny) Gorean conversation in a punk rock club the other night while people were trying to listen to the music. Sure, you can mute people, but *meh*
I also find it annoying that some people talk assuming other people can hear them all the time (I can't, because I have my headset hooked up all the time, so if I'm not wearing it, I don't hear it cuz I'm too lazy to change the settings...but they assume since I have a dot I can always hear them)
And when someone has their mic turned up too high, or has a cheap mic, or happens to scream or cough or any number of things into the mic... uuuugggghhhhhh... (and I do it to without realizing)
BUT BUT BUT!! I use IM chat almost every night. And it's great. Just make sure to turn your talk button off if you turn it permanently on for an IM chat. lol.
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Tid Kidd
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11-14-2007 05:29
From: Ike Fairweather I love voice chat as you find out who the pretenders are. Was so funny to find out how many men avatars partnered with other women avatars who turned out to be men in RL. Some people are really twisted. Ok, so your interpretation is...? - that a guy with a "woman" partner didn't realise it was a man all along? - that the "women" avatars voicing openly as men didn't realise what would happen as soon as they opened their mouth? - that every female voice you hear is a genuine female? (Not the result of a good voice processor lol) - that every male voice you hear is a genuine male? - that Torley Linden is "twisted" when he is out in his female avatar? - that a tiny furry dragon wants you to think they are like that in RL too? Are you as boring and petty as your post, Ike? Or do you "pretend" in SL to be someone you're not in RL? Horror! OMG! You mean I don't really look like my avatar?
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Michael Bigwig
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11-14-2007 06:32
From: Sera Lok I rarely use open voice chat because honestly, I find it a nuisance. Case in point, a totally inappropriate (and pretty pompous/corny) Gorean conversation in a punk rock club the other night while people were trying to listen to the music. Sure, you can mute people, but *meh* I really don't think people should "*meh*" the ability to mute. I see people complaining all the time about specific instances of voice disruption, but let's be honest, you can mute someone in 3 or 4 clicks...it takes 5 seconds. And once you've done it...it's done. I feel that people that bad-mouth voice are really trying to downplay the ability to mute. Mute is an extraordinarily handy, efficient, and speedy way to instantly solve a problem. I think it's strange that people complain about voice annoyances. It rarely happens (in my experience) and if it does, you can practically solve it with a nose twitch. *shrugs* I respect many opinions on why voice can be annoying...but the power to mute instantly solves the majority of them.—I don't think it warrants a "*meh*" Cheers!
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Brenda Connolly
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11-14-2007 06:36
I solved the muting problem by not having it installed at all, thanks to Nicholaz.
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3Ring Binder
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11-14-2007 06:38
i would presume mute in voice is similiar to ignore feature in these forums. quite a handy little tool, there to be utilized.... so take advantage of it.  i don't have voice activated, cuz i don't like talking on the phone, so why in the world would i want to talk on the computer? 
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Amaranthim Talon
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11-14-2007 08:31
I use either - depending on whether the person I am interested in talking to is voicing or not. I ask if they voice, if they do, great, if they don't np - I love it though for the dimension it adds (in my experience, anyway). I love the richness and quality of having the person talking rather than typing. It is just another layer of sensation added to the visuals- Sound is not always feasible, which is unfortunate from my standpoint and that of those who fall victim to my incessant typos 
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Brenda Connolly
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11-14-2007 08:33
From: 3Ring Binder i would presume mute in voice is similiar to ignore feature in these forums. quite a handy little tool, there to be utilized.... so take advantage of it.  i don't have voice activated, cuz i don't like talking on the phone, so why in the world would i want to talk on the computer?  According to a few asshats, so you can prove you aren't really a guy.... 
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Cherry Czervik
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11-14-2007 09:13
I am more than happy to prove I am not a guy. Shrugs.
I still don't see what the fuss is about, or why it's still being discussed with such passion. Use it or don't. Only problem I have with it is people get all excited over my voice if I let them!
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Virrginia Tombola
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11-14-2007 12:50
Well, it's no use getting excited about it. The genie is out of the bottle.
Personally, I don't care for Voice at all, for same reason I dislike conference calls. I'm not a huge fan of phones, either and prefer to communicate with people via email. I also dislike the fact that it is rather less anonymous--and I prefer a basic level of anonymity in SL.
Remember, these are my feelings, and my tastes. I dislike having to put that obvious caveat in there, but given the tenor of some posters, I feel I need to emphasize that.
So, the question is: has secondlife changed much for me since the introduction of voice? A bit, actually. I hang about in Caledon, which is a fairly well mannered part of secondlife, so I haven't had nonsense such as fellows trying to berate me into chatting them up on voice. Instead, I began to notice a strange quiet at social gatherings. It took me a while to realize "Oh, they're probably all chittering on the voice channel". So, possibly not just because of voice, I spend less time at large balls, and more in small groups of people, or hanging about creating.
Not really a huge difference, I suppose.
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Michael Bigwig
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11-14-2007 13:00
From: Cherry Czervik I am more than happy to prove I am not a guy. Shrugs.
I still don't see what the fuss is about, or why it's still being discussed with such passion. Use it or don't. Only problem I have with it is people get all excited over my voice if I let them! Really? Are you British or Australian? Aussie accents are the hottest in the world next to British.
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3Ring Binder
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11-14-2007 13:07
From: Brenda Connolly According to a few asshats, so you can prove you aren't really a guy....  excellent. i wouldn't waste my breath on them in the first place. keeps them from hitting on me. it's all good. 
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Michael Bigwig
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11-14-2007 13:11
From: Virrginia Tombola Personally, I don't care for Voice at all, for same reason I dislike conference calls. I'm not a huge fan of phones, either and prefer to communicate with people via email. I also dislike the fact that it is rather less anonymous--and I prefer a basic level of anonymity in SL.
Anonymity is derived from the Greek word ανωνυμία, meaning "without a name" or "namelessness". In colloquial use, the term typically refers to a person, and often means that the personal identity, or personally identifiable information of that person is not known. I completely understand your use of the word anonymity, however, I'm curious about a few things...the sound of a persons voice breaks the anonymity barrier? Or is it what you say? If someone remains anonymous...you don't know who they are--however, you've assumed a 'personality' in Second Life potentially separate from real life. This personality in Second Life can't have a literal 'voice' without losing anonymity? Are we determining that the sound of a person's voice, and their inflections leads people that much closer to who the real person behind the AV is? Please understand, in this case particularly, I'm not being difficult on purpose--I'm very curious as to why the addition of a voice destroys anonymity. I personally would follow the belief that it's what is said, and the information divulged that crosses the anonymity barrier...but hey, this is just my take on things. What you have in your profile, and the things you say are what balance anonymity...not the sound of your voice. However I agree that your voice most certainly is 'personally identifiable information'--although, to whom? This usually infers the ability for someone to recognize you by this information. I don't think anyone in Second Life is likely to recognize your voice (realistically).
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Bradley Bracken
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11-14-2007 13:25
From: Michael Bigwig I respect many opinions on why voice can be annoying...but the power to mute instantly solves the majority of them.—I don't think it warrants a "*meh*"
Cheers!
Voice? meh. 
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Michael Bigwig
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11-14-2007 13:28
From: Bradley Bracken Voice? meh.  You can "meh" voice, that's not the issue.  The issue was 'mute.'
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Colette Meiji
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11-14-2007 13:30
From: Michael Bigwig You can "meh" voice, that's not the issue.  The issue was 'mute.' Mute definitely would be a requirement.
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Bradley Bracken
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11-14-2007 13:34
From: Michael Bigwig Please understand, in this case particularly, I'm not being difficult on purpose--I'm very curious as to why the addition of a voice destroys anonymity. I personally would follow the belief that it's what is said, and the information divulged that crosses the anonymity barrier...but hey, this is just my take on things.
What you have in your profile, and the things you say are what balance anonymity...not the sound of your voice. However I agree that your voice most certainly is 'personally identifiable information'--although, to whom? This usually infers the ability for someone to recognize you by this information. I don't think anyone in Second Life is likely to recognize your voice (realistically). It just appears to me you are very literal Michael. My other half is the same way. We will debate in circles sometimes because we're both saying the same thing but in different ways. I'm very flippant with words which I admit is kind of odd for someone who was an English major. My feeling is that by anonymity, people mean they like that barrier between them and the other avs. It's the reason why most of us are more outspoken, more outgoing, etc in SL than we are in RL. Using voice breaks that barrier for many and makes it too real. Too personal. Technically you're right, that isn't anonymity but I'm fairly certain that's what most of us mean when we say it.
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Michael Bigwig
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11-14-2007 13:38
From: Bradley Bracken It just appears to me you are very literal Michael. My other half is the same way. We will debate in circles sometimes because we're both saying the same thing but in different ways. I'm very flippant with words which I admit is kind of odd for someone who was an English major.
My feeling is that by anonymity, people mean they like that barrier between them and the other avs. It's the reason why most of us are more outspoken, more outgoing, etc in SL than we are in RL. Using voice breaks that barrier for many and makes it too real. Too personal. Technically you're right, that isn't anonymity but I'm fairly certain that's what most of us mean when we say it. Well...I can be literal sometimes, and other times I can be loose-goose. It all depends on my train-of-thought really. I just wanted to understand another person's take on 'anonymity.' Because, if I'm not mistaken, the majority of SL citizens already are anonymous.  --certain weirdos like Michael Bigwig, however, divulge all kinds of personal information in their profile...so who knows. ps. I understand the anonymity barrier you speak of...the barrier between other AVs and their AVs...that makes sense...perhaps I am being a stickler about definition.
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Marin Mielziner
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11-14-2007 13:38
From all the responses it seems there's a variety of reasons voice is good and just as many that voice is bad.
I've found it indispensible for our theatre group, as well as in conducting meetings. It's also a handy tool when explaining things to someone, for instance, building tools, without having to type everything out. A few games in groups are fun with voice too.
That said...I was in a relationship that ended very badly and we attribute part of it to getting too Real World by using voice (it was Skype, but same difference).
My present boyfriend and I will not ever talk in voice (just the two of us), so long as we want our relationship to remain in SL. We have joined a group of friends in voice. Safety in numbers.
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