Drama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dune Enzo
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08-24-2009 21:47
From: Lias Leandros I like this guy Dune Enzo. Nice to meet ya Lias. I just observe, and sometimes I've observed these 'dramatic' scenes. Though these usually take place between people known to each other, after a long-festering issue, none of the parties ever stops and thinks "wow, that was unusual coming from him/her, I wonder what's up? Though people preach tolerance it's more often than not just lip service. The minute someone does something THEY disagree with they're quick to throw on labels and consign one or other (or both) to the scrapheap. There aren't as many true friends out there - or should I say 'in here' as people's profiles would have you believe  A real friend will look at you after such an event and say "Man that was a crap scene - funny as all get out though, woohooo brother! Let's have a beer!"
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Lias Leandros
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08-24-2009 22:05
Agreed, Dune.
I had PM'd Scylla earlier and suggested a Week of Forum non-verbal Violence. I suggested that if folks took one week and refrained from calling people rude names these forums would look like a Think Tank.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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08-24-2009 22:08
From: Lias Leandros Agreed, Dune.
I had PM'd Scylla earlier and suggested a Week of Forum non-verbal Violence. I suggested that if folks took one week and refrained from calling people rude names these forums would look like a Think Tank. I'm in.
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Joshooah Lovenkraft
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08-24-2009 22:30
From: Rhaorth Antonelli the stuff that takes place on the net, I would not call it drama as much as.... stupid (and I am guilty of it myself)
/me nods. I'm guilty of the occasional snarky comment myself. However, a lot of the times I have no clue wtf they are talking about when it involves some long convoluted history between dueling parties and frankly I don't really care that much. It is mostly just silly stuff and although people are free to have pissing contests on each others wheaties, I doubt very much that as I lay on my death bed, shitting myself in my Depends, that I'll be wishing I got that last word in on the SL forums.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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08-24-2009 22:33
From: Joshooah Lovenkraft It is mostly just silly stuff and although people are free to have pissing contests on each others wheaties, I doubt very much that as I lay on my death bed, shitting myself in my Depends, that I'll be wishing I got that last word in on the SL forums. LOL! Lovely images! You have a gift with words . . . ! 
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Dune Enzo
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08-24-2009 23:58
From: Scylla Rhiadra LOL! Lovely images! You have a gift with words . . . !  Seconded! Consider perspective added 
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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08-25-2009 00:07
From: Scylla Rhiadra Uhhhhh . . . they both end up very very dead. Why would you want THAT role? got to die sometime, and hey, it is only a play and I would be the star and it is a good play so why not, it would be true drama, of the good variety! much better than the claim of drama on the web...
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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08-25-2009 00:14
From: Joshooah Lovenkraft /me nods. I'm guilty of the occasional snarky comment myself.
However, a lot of the times I have no clue wtf they are talking about when it involves some long convoluted history between dueling parties and frankly I don't really care that much. It is mostly just silly stuff and although people are free to have pissing contests on each others wheaties, I doubt very much that as I lay on my death bed, shitting myself in my Depends, that I'll be wishing I got that last word in on the SL forums. you are not alone... I am clueless most of the time here too, and the times I am not totally clueless, I am partly clueless but ya know what... I like it better that way come in, check threads, read a few, answer some questions if I can, add a thought or two when I feel like it, then leave and go about doing something else... peek in once in awhile... rinse and repeat. mostly reading as of late though There was a time, I let it all get to me, and would get all caught up in it, and let the name calling and such get to me, but now... nah. I have to wonder why I let it bother me before, because that is the way I see it, I let it bother me, I gave those who were using words against me the power to do so... but, I have learned to not let it get to me, that those people with those words do not hurt me if I do not allow it, and it feels good! heh I don't expect nor want everyone to like me anymore than I will like everyone out there, and I think that was my biggest lesson in life.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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08-25-2009 00:16
From: Joshooah Lovenkraft I doubt very much that as I lay on my death bed, shitting myself in my Depends, that I'll be wishing I got that last word in on the SL forums. had to quote this separately because it is so damn true!!! hell, come tomorrow, come 20 minutes from now, I won't care if I got the last word in... (although that seems contradictory considering spat of posts from me just now LOL)
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08-25-2009 01:04
From: Briana Dawson Ugh.
Go away. No one asked you if you cared and no one here cares that you do not. Well, if we cared that you didn't care that no one caring, then we wouldn't care about you caring about them not caring about if you didn't care whether we cared .... 
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Maggie McArdle
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08-25-2009 01:27
From: Dune Enzo Nice to meet ya Lias. I just observe, and sometimes I've observed these 'dramatic' scenes. Though these usually take place between people known to each other, after a long-festering issue, none of the parties ever stops and thinks "wow, that was unusual coming from him/her, I wonder what's up? Though people preach tolerance it's more often than not just lip service. The minute someone does something THEY disagree with they're quick to throw on labels and consign one or other (or both) to the scrapheap. There aren't as many true friends out there - or should I say 'in here' as people's profiles would have you believe  A real friend will look at you after such an event and say "Man that was a crap scene - funny as all get out though, woohooo brother! Let's have a beer!" this!
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Clarissa Lowell
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08-25-2009 06:44
From: Rhaorth Antonelli good point
I used to think drama was a good thing, a good movie drama, or even Shakespeare....
when did drama become a bad thing? When it leaves the stage, it's a bad thing. Roleplay in RL, or canned drama in RL, is wearing.
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Mickey Vandeverre
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08-25-2009 07:36
From: Dune Enzo Nice to meet ya Lias. I just observe, and sometimes I've observed these 'dramatic' scenes. Though these usually take place between people known to each other, after a long-festering issue, none of the parties ever stops and thinks "wow, that was unusual coming from him/her, I wonder what's up? Though people preach tolerance it's more often than not just lip service. The minute someone does something THEY disagree with they're quick to throw on labels and consign one or other (or both) to the scrapheap. There aren't as many true friends out there - or should I say 'in here' as people's profiles would have you believe  A real friend will look at you after such an event and say "Man that was a crap scene - funny as all get out though, woohooo brother! Let's have a beer!" SL is about filling needs. RL you simply live, and do what you have with what you are given. The choices you make on how you want to live it are based on longevity and the long run.....tolerance is required for the long run. SL is a choice, a luxury, a bonus, that you can manipulate for what you need, that you can control.....short run thinking works fine. Those people on your friends' list are filling a need. Stop filling their needs, and see what happens. The majority of the conflict aka drama arises when you stop filling someone's needs. Don't believe me? Identify their needs, then stop filling their needs for about 2 weeks, and see what happens. A few will prove to be solid gold, and remain a friend regardless of whether you are filling their needs or not (maybe, maybe not - maybe all your friends require the need to be filled - not really a reflection on you - just the way it is). When this happens..... From: Dune Enzo "wow, that was unusual coming from him/her, I wonder what's up?
......what's up is that you stopped filling their need. Yes, you will probably get tossed to their scrapheap because with a few clicks of the button, a few TP's, a few IM's..... they can easily find someone else to provide that need. Not really a bad thing, unless you get off on being a need filler aka doormat. No tolerance required...no long term plan....a few clicks of the button, and they're back to getting their needs filled.....short term. You can look back on any drama that ever happened to you in SL between friends, and almost always pinpoint the conflict to their needs not being met by you.
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Clarissa Lowell
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08-25-2009 07:43
There are friends like that in RL too. Stop filling their needs - that's good advice, Mickey.
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Mickey Vandeverre
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08-25-2009 07:43
From: Clarissa Lowell There are friends like that in RL too. Stop filling their needs - that's good advice, Mickey. No....it's different in RL, Clarissa.
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Clarissa Lowell
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08-25-2009 07:47
My experience is different.
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Mickey Vandeverre
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08-25-2009 08:21
From: Joshooah Lovenkraft I doubt very much that as I lay on my death bed, shitting myself in my Depends, that I'll be wishing I got that last word in on the SL forums. In RL, most friendships are based on longevity, and nurtured that way. You have all the nuances available to you...very few things are "hidden", as they are in SL...you're playing with a full deck in RL, for maximum benefit between both people. Tolerance, give and take...a ton of variables that nurture longevity come into play. Simply fulfilling one's needs for a short period of time isn't going to make the friendship endure. Much more involved. You may run across a friendship in SL that passes Joshooah's Depends test....like I said, you'll run across a few that are solid gold. But generally....that won't apply to this venue, as it does in RL. There's a popular quote about the reasons that you meet people....for a reason, a season, or a lifetime....and most people in RL nurture each friendship as though it will be a lifetime. Factors come into play that might prove otherwise, but most people set out that way. In SL....it's generally for a reason or a season....and most people are aware of that....and it changes the mechanics a bit, when you've already limited yourself from the beginning. Even if you are not the one establishing limits in the beginning....most are, based on the concept of the venue.
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Joshooah Lovenkraft
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08-25-2009 09:11
From: Mickey Vandeverre Joshooah's Depends test Oooh I like that. It will be like the Turing Test for the SL forums.
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Melita Magic
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08-25-2009 09:38
Anyone else notice a correlation between "no drama" prominent in someone's SL profile, and a generally unpleasant personality who has trouble getting along with others? Seems a litmus test. Now this thread is full of tests.
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08-25-2009 10:12
From: Melita Magic Anyone else notice a correlation between "no drama" prominent in someone's SL profile, and a generally unpleasant personality who has trouble getting along with others? Seems a litmus test. Now this thread is full of tests. I don't think the converse test applies. Pep (Does not have "no drama" in his profile, but apparently fits the other characteristics.  )
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Elric Anatine
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08-25-2009 16:24
From: Joshooah Lovenkraft ... Do you feel your behaviour in the forums differs from your persona in-world? Could Second Life be the answer to world peace?  I am fairly similar in all forms of communication, but that is me. I am perhaps less formal in the forums and certain RL social interactions. I do not doubt that anonymity encourages a certain degree of anti-social behaviour, and as long as people do not have to take responsibility for their interactions within any social scenario (be it Second Life in world, a web site forum etc.), there will always be a large number of griefers/trolls and therefore "world peace" impossible. Then again, I'm rather jaded about humanity by and large, so who knows.
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Melita Magic
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08-25-2009 16:44
From: Elric Anatine Then again, I'm rather jaded about humanity by and large, so who knows. I would think you'd like hounds much less.
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Ricardo Harris
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08-25-2009 17:55
From: Briana Dawson In the forums i am i think considered abrasive and cold
Lukewarm is more like it.
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Brenda Connolly
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08-25-2009 18:54
From: Ricardo Harris Lukewarm is more like it. Yes. YOU are abrasive and cold, Harris.
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08-25-2009 19:38
Having dumped an 8 year relationship with someone who was quite a "drama queen", I'd like to avoid more "drama". Life is too short. Shut Up & Deal with it. 
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