...In the USA ladies are alowed to go into book shops and have a cock thro a hole,
This must be a corner of Barnes & Noble that I missed...
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Oryx Tempel
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03-03-2008 14:30
...In the USA ladies are alowed to go into book shops and have a cock thro a hole, This must be a corner of Barnes & Noble that I missed... _____________________
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Wicked Picket
Lost in Translation
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03-03-2008 14:31
WOW!!!
I haven't been on a trip this strange since 3 hits of Acid in the early 80's!!! One "unique" thread. lol ...enjoy the trip, peeps!!! |
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Trout Recreant
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03-03-2008 14:33
I didn't say I believed him. I said "if". And I never said you didn't understand the Constitution. You sure seem to like to put words in my mouth. I asked you to cite a law (which Chris did, by the way), and I said until I've seen one, I'll defer to the Constitution. Unconstitutional laws do get passed from time to time, which is why we have courts to strike them down (not that the courts always do their jobs either). Any law that says you can't draw any damned picture you please would be unconstitutional, but that doesn't mean one doesn't exist. I simply asked you to tell me which one it is, rather than just to cite an example of a conviction you witnessed, without having actually watched the entire trial. I still think there must have been other factors involved than simply just the possession of some drawings. I'll repeat, IF such a law does exist, it's very troubling. And IF that man you mentioned was sent to prison for 5 years, simply for doodling, that's beyond troubling. That's reprehensible. It's fundamentally unamerican, to say the least., and so completely wrong, I can scarcely find words to describe it. All right, all right. Don't get so wadded up over it. I'm not defending it, I'm just saying it's illegal. If you really want me to, I'll go look up the actual citation, but I'm sort of busy this afternoon doing actual work (I still can't believe my employer makes me do that - it's an outrage). It might take a few hours before I can get to it. At any rate, it's not as unconstitutional as you might think. There is all sorts of speech that is not permitted under the guarantee of free speech. That guarantee was put in place to protect the citizens' rights to criticize the government, not their right to promote child porn, yell fire in a crowded theater, conspire to commit crimes, etc. If the harm to society outweighs the right t free speech, it can be outlawed in certain circumstances. I honestly don't know how the Court would rule on this. They certainly lean towards allowing free speech, but this is pretty heinous and we have some pretty conservative justices. Thomas and Scalia aren't going anywere any time soon, for example, and I would bet that they would favor this law. You might get Kennedy to side with the conservatives. The CJ is still an unknown, but is conservative enough to go with the law. I'm not making a judgment here, but you know as well as I do that politics play a role at the Supreme Court level. They shouldn't, but those justices didn't get their jobs by being good at what they do, they got them by playing politics. _____________________
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Love Hastings
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03-03-2008 14:35
yes a couple can go into booth and get cock or pussy from other side usually.. Did you just say... _____________________
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Icee Delight
I also see the Dark
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03-03-2008 14:35
Broadway? Mari Hahaha! Yes, this thread certainly IS some spectacle. ![]() |
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Ordinal Malaprop
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03-03-2008 14:37
yes a couple can go into booth and get cock or pussy from other side usually.. see the (squirt) main page, look in google and look at usa, find an area, say new york, find a book store booth sex shop whatever, and look at postings, plenty girls go to usa book stores as well as guys. if only we were allowed them in uk !!! )Oh Ebay!! i have been sending complaints and emails for 3 years now trying to allow uk to access mature content, all i get is europe has too many laws on whats legal to sell and whats not, so most of europe not able to acccess mature content if they live outside usa. this what rebecca means in a way, ebay just dont want the possible chance of being sued because they sold or had a product that was illegal to sell in the country that person lives in. This is why before long if any more stories of this child thing get out again, wether true or not, theres going be trouble. Also we here in uk are always hearing cases of missing teens being murdered, jersey in channel islands are pulling down a kids home or something, because of abuse....this RL nasty stuff is what the media love as front page news, anything extra like Sl children, makes the matter all the more worse, im a afraid its sometimes a sad world we live in ((im going this time You are a strange, strange person. Please go away. _____________________
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Joseph Abel
Leaves no pawprints...
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03-03-2008 14:40
/puts a plaque entitled "Better Life" over the Exit sign
Would all of those who feel Second Life is in danger of closing, feel Second Life is a threat to their way of life, feel Second Life needs to be changed/controlled/sued/restricted/lobotomized/hobbled/scrubbed or feel in any way that Second Life is a vile pit of debauchery and is the inevitible harbinger of the doom of children/animals/gardening/even wax jobs on expensive automobiles... Please pass through these doors to a Better Life...and let the rest of us enjoy Second Life as it is. _____________________
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Love Hastings
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03-03-2008 14:42
/puts a plaque entitled "Better Life" over the Exit sign Would all of those who feel Second Life is in danger of closing, feel Second Life is a threat to their way of life, feel Second Life needs to be changed/controlled/sued/restricted/lobotomized/hobbled/scrubbed or feel in any way that Second Life is a vile pit of debauchery and is the inevitible harbinger of the doom of children/animals/gardening/even wax jobs on expensive automobiles... Please pass through these doors to a Better Life...and let the rest of us enjoy Second Life as it is. You ploy might have worked if you had put the plaque above the glory hole... _____________________
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Oryx Tempel
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03-03-2008 14:47
You ploy might have worked if you had put the plaque above the glory hole... /me chokes on her granola bar. LOL! This thread makes me laugh. ![]() _____________________
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Sling Trebuchet
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03-03-2008 14:49
So now we have plague??
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Ann Launay
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03-03-2008 14:53
so most of europe not able to acccess mature content if they live outside usa. Erm, wouldn't that be ALL of Europe? _____________________
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Joseph Abel
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03-03-2008 14:56
You ploy might have worked if you had put the plaque above the glory hole... It's times like this that I'm glad I work in a home office...snorting and laughing like I just did would certainly make people look. _____________________
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Damanios Thetan
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03-03-2008 14:58
Erm, wouldn't that be ALL of Europe? No, most of europe can't access mature content. I guess it's all of europe who's living outside of USA. (Which seems rather obvious.) To my knowledge most of europe has no issue accessing mature content for that matter either. (If they, to uselessly restate the obvious, live outside of the usa.) _____________________
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Ann Launay
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03-03-2008 15:01
I guess it's all of europe who's living outside of USA. (Which seems rather obvious.) lol, I'm not aware of any part of Europe which exists inside the US. Now, if the OP had said 'Europeans'... _____________________
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Marianne McCann
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03-03-2008 15:06
Ya know, when I think of this, the one thing that strikes me about the thread is some person came in here, talking about how much they wish Europe allowed "glory holes," and also said that they wished Second Life was more restrictive on the sexual stuff they did't like.
There's a word for that, isn't there? Mari _____________________
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Har Fairweather
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03-03-2008 15:09
I know for aq fact that there are children living in England. And it is reliably reported that there is at least one pedophile in England doing nasty things to children. Therefore, it must be only a matter of time before England is shut down. Now there is a story for this Channel 5!
The OP, to follow his own logic, needs to prepare to liquidate his goods in UK and emigrate. If, as I am advised, the same conditions exist in every country on Earth, the OP must also prepare to leave this world altogether. When you do, OP, can I have your RL stuff? |
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Trout Recreant
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03-03-2008 15:12
lol, I'm not aware of any part of Europe which exists inside the US. Now, if the OP had said 'Europeans'... I'm pretty sure they speak some crazy European language in Louisiana. Nobody can understand a word they say. So, technically, Louisiana is part of Europe. New Mexico, ironically, is not part of Old mexico, and Baja California is not related to California. Minnesota is in Canada, I think. Newfoundland is part of Greenland, which is more white and icy than it is green, but not as white and icy as Iceland, which was named after George Washington Carver Ice, who invented the frozen peanut sundae and sold the patent to Dairy Queen. Nevertheless, Louisana=Europe. Therefore, there are no Cajun Glory Holes. They police this policy by putting holes in bookstores and stationing hungry alligators on the other side. You have to drive across the border to Texas if you want that sort of entertainment. Texas is on loan to Mexico for the time being because it got tired of having to admit that it's the second largest state, a fact that Alaskans (a subsidiary of Russia) find hilarious. _____________________
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Wicked Picket
Lost in Translation
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03-03-2008 15:12
I know for aq fact that there are children living in England. And it is reliably reported that there is at least one pedophile in England doing nasty things to children. Therefore, it must be only a matter of time before England is shut down. Now there is a story for this Channel 5! The OP, to follow his own logic, needs to prepare to liquidate his goods in UK and emigrate. If, as I am advised, the same conditions exist in every country on Earth, the OP must also prepare to leave this world altogether. When you do, OP, can I have your RL stuff? ROFLMFAO!!! ...and I thought this was going to be just another boring Monday!!! |
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Alida Tomsen
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03-03-2008 15:12
I know for aq fact that there are children living in England. And it is reliably reported that there is at least one pedophile in England doing nasty things to children. Therefore, it must be only a matter of time before England is shut down. Now there is a story for this Channel 5! The OP, to follow his own logic, needs to prepare to liquidate his goods in UK and emigrate. If, as I am advised, the same conditions exist in every country on Earth, the OP must also prepare to leave this world altogether. When you do, OP, can I have your RL stuff? *chokes on her wine, waiting for the world to shut down* _____________________
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Joseph Abel
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03-03-2008 15:13
Ya know, when I think of this, the one thing that strikes me about the thread is some person came in here, talking about how much they wish Europe allowed "glory holes," and also said that they wished Second Life was more restrictive on the sexual stuff they did't like. There's a word for that, isn't there? Mari Uhm...hyp...hype...hypa...hypo - that's it!! Hippos!! Oh, now I feel so violated by those hippo's that take over my Friend's list in-world sometimes... Get your hooves off me, you damned dirty hippo! _____________________
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Rebecca Proudhon
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03-03-2008 15:19
This answer seems a little naieve. No you. There is no plan for policing other than that which is already in place because there is no way to police the grid effectively. Clearly there is "no plan" for alot of things. LL made SL in their own image, totally unpoliced, anarchic, etc. Big mistake. It's a huge myth and excuse, that "there is no way to police the grid effectively" of course there are ways that could be developed to police it and even ways that would not be intrusive to "normal," sex maniacs in SL. The technology isn't there, Certainly not in SL as it is. But the technology has been and continues being developed that can pick out target activities in a digital environment. and you certainly can't accurately determine someone's intent when they first create an account. Of course not but you as a company, can at the very least know who they really are. LL has even failed in that area and in fact promoted freebie accounts requiring basically nothing that was verified and age verification as it is, is also a joke. SL's liability for this is nil as long as they don't actively allow it. Not true. They own it. They own every pixel and bit of it. BUT all that can be debated, that is not the point. My point is LL couldn't resist government and mass lawsuits while all of that was debated. The ban on ageplay had no other purpose than to cover LL's butt, just like the ban on gambling. LL limited its liability considerably with those bans and with the subsequest token efforts to enforce those bans. I don't see a lawsuit going anywhere. For a civil suit, you would have to have the parents suing on behalf of an exploited minor, and you woul have to prove some complicity by LL. That's a tough one to win. You hear all the time about minors being lured away from their homes by perverts and you don't hear very often about chat room owners or ISP's being sued. The internet is not owned by a single company. SL is no different then any MMO in that regard. They own it, it's their platform, according to their TOS they have the right to take your land and avatar and flush it, at any moment, for any reason they choose---but you can sue them and probably win if money is involved. They still keep their ownership rights just like any MMO, which as I said, I bet they don't want much longer, if too much heat happens. They have to get serious about writing technology into SL that can catrch and stop bots, age-play and anything else that is detrimental to SL. I don't see what is LL's fault. Child Sex? They banned it. I think you're more likely to find it on WoW where there are more children playing than on SL. "Reporters" setting up stories that can't be verified? How do we know that this wasn't a total setup, btw? Get a buddy to help or log on an alt to molest yourself and there's your story. That's not LL's fault either. As I said, regardless how it's debated, just banning it, to CYA, is not enough. if SL is found to be a kiddie porn stronghold then they are toast especially if they are sitting there saying..."we can't do anything." If LL is smart enough to create a 3D virtual reality, then they should be smart enough to build into it the necessary safeguards. if that means constant scannng of chats looking for various red flags then so be it. If it means hiring a large 24/7 kiddie porn task force, then so be it. SL is neither the internet or just a neutral service provider, no matter how they might like to spin it. You mentioned Warcraft. Warcraft avatars cannot get naked except with a mod where you can see yourself only---naked---and that is against the TOS, because it is against the TOS to alter a character and people are caught with anything that alters the characters, by a program that constantly scans the clients for devices, for bots etc. they target and there is no way to have sex scripts except chat macros, and the closest thing they have to small avatars are Gnomes, which of course are the butt of many jokes. Of course there is some sexual RP in Warcraft chats and joking of course, and private chat, but if a Pedophile is out scoping the players he is going to be busted very quickly. People are reported constantly if something crosses the line and Blizzard acts nearly instantly. With LL, reports are often a joke. With SL they have to approach the problem differently because in SL people can change their avatars and there are sex scripts and sex items...but since LL knew this and no doubt could foresee problems with illegal activity, then they should have come up with technical solutions to catch people by now and certainly needs to build them into their MMO. Instead they want to be viewed as though they are the internet. They aren't, they own it. They are responsible for it. |
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3Ring Binder
always smile
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03-03-2008 15:21
Ya know, when I think of this, the one thing that strikes me about the thread is some person came in here, talking about how much they wish Europe allowed "glory holes," and also said that they wished Second Life was more restrictive on the sexual stuff they did't like. There's a word for that, isn't there? Mari you, my young friend, are my hero! ![]() _____________________
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Ravenhurst Xeno
Consiracy with no purpose
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03-03-2008 15:22
I'm not defending it, I'm just saying it's illegal. If you really want me to, I'll go look up the actual citation. I think you are referring to The PROTECT ACT of 2003 PROTECT Act of 2003 18 U.S.C. § 1466A. A similar law, The Child Pornography Prevention Act of 1996 was overturned by the supreme court as unconstitutional. The PROTECT act was also ruled unconstitutional by the 11 circuit court and has been presented to the supreme court for review. I'm not even going to attempt to comment on the other directions this thread is taking. |
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Damien1 Thorne
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03-03-2008 15:23
lol, I'm not aware of any part of Europe which exists inside the US. Now, if the OP had said 'Europeans'... Not yet anyway, give us time ![]() |
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Trout Recreant
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03-03-2008 15:24
Not yet anyway, give us time ![]() /me points up. Helllooooo!? Louisana. _____________________
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