The face behind the Avatar
|
Cherry Czervik
Came To Her Senses
Join date: 18 Feb 2006
Posts: 3,680
|
01-18-2008 02:03
From: Caroline Ra By the same token, Im not that interested in seeing RL pics in profile. They could be photos of their sister/son/uploaded from web. OMG yes quoted for utter truth. I did know someone who had a male sub who was a very convincing tranny (please don't start debating THAT here or the morality thereof!) who used to send a picture of himself dressed to see if anyone noticed (these were trolling HNGs on Dalnet I should add). No one twigged it.
|
Cherry Czervik
Came To Her Senses
Join date: 18 Feb 2006
Posts: 3,680
|
01-18-2008 02:32
From: Kokoro Fasching I put my RL picture on the 1st Life tab, but most don't think it's real. That's their problem, not mine.  Awwww Koko - love ya sweetie. That made me really smile on this cold grey day. Still ... only at work for half the day YAY!!!!
|
Royce Boa
RAGE: President
Join date: 1 Apr 2007
Posts: 260
|
01-18-2008 09:47
One of my best friends in sl is a big voice chatter, which I am not. I avoid voice for the same reason people avoid pictures, I don't want to know what people look like or sound like in rl. I am here for a Second Life. Anyways, I always put voices to peoples text in my head, and this friend of mine ended up sounded EXACTLY the way I pictured his av to talk. It was one of those truly disturbing moments for me, and I have not even turned voice on since. 
|
Strauss Ulderport
Registered User
Join date: 3 Dec 2007
Posts: 326
|
01-18-2008 10:04
From: Colette Meiji You were lumping them in with a bunch of people you were directly negatively contrasting to yourself. How did you expect them to respond? Then you are saying I hit a nerve? My bad. Otherwise I except they to discuss the situation in a adult mannor and not start throwing direct personal insults as I did not. If you want to comment on 'all club woners seem to do this...' I wouldn't get my panties in a bunch. And I certainly wouldnt if I wasn't part of the sub group he/she was talking about. So either I hit the nail on the head with these people or there are a bunch of drama queens feeling the need to take up the mantle of something that has nothing to do with them directly except start a conflict rather then simply debating/discussing it. So which is it? From: someone Then (if you are hoping to avoid offended rebuttal) say "SOME PEOPLE" hide their RLs because of these things. Make it VERY clear its only some. And point out you know some. Just because you have anecdotal evidence that it happens doesn't mean you know the scope of the problem. And lastly (if you are trying to avoid confrontation) don't paint yourself as better than those who have RL troubles. Which you clearly did in your post. Yes I will go out of my way to tip toe though the dasies to make sure I dont hurt any more fragile egos or estemees. Or perhaps, people on the net should grow a LITTLE skin and take posts such as mine for face value rather then reading into it to find every way to twist it into a personal insult. My advice (which I will put my flame proof boots on for) is grow up to those people. *shrugs* I am not going to take the hand hold lets tripple read my post to make sure no one ever will be offended my anything approach no more then you are likely to adopt my view. And I am not trying to be a ass clown or continue a argument, simply being fully honest of my opinion and view. If you want to flame me for that (certainly has not stopped some of you) more go ahead. Far from the first time in 20 yrs certainly not the last. *chuckle*
_____________________
Strauss Ulderport -------------------- Owner of NightHallows Lair Industrial, Goth, Darkwave & Techno music venue www.nighthallowslair.net
|
Nika Talaj
now you see her ...
Join date: 2 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,449
|
01-18-2008 10:20
Inworld, I prefer not to see RL photos. I like to let there be a little space for magic in SL ... for people to depart from their RL identity, as well as their RL tasks. I think my favorite avatar choices at the hangout right now are Joseph and Snowman ... big cat and dolphin, respectively ... I like to get THAT hint about who they are, and guess the rest as we go. I like mystery, I guess But I'm not much of a roleplayer, and sometimes as friendships have progressed in SL, real things creep in, very naturally. I have yet to know someone well in SL and RL, who can also maintain their SL "character" as a separate thing, sort of a 'mood', within the friendship. But I think that should be possible, and might be fun. I never realized how private a person I am before coming to SL ... I have to force myself to put anything in my profile! Tho I'm outgoing and generally very happy to talk and let people get to know me. But ... I'm designing an abstract avatar for myself. More hiding.
_____________________
.  To contact forum folks, join the inworld group "The Forum Cartel". New residents with questions about SL more than welcome! We has parties!  To contact forum scripters, join the inworld group "Scriptoratti" (thanks Void!). New scripter questions welcome!
|
Graphicguru Gustav
Accepts head scritchings!
Join date: 5 Oct 2007
Posts: 775
|
My RL picture is in my profile
01-18-2008 10:35
Responding to the original post and skimming through the many posts in this thread... (No offence to anyone)...I am at work at the moment and pressed for time.
I don’t mind if anyone sees my RL picture in my profile...(and yes it is there to see if you wish too see it) and if it makes you feel less comfortable seeing it and you decide to steer away from me when looking at it, then it probably is best we don’t meet anyway. I always felt, and will always feel this way personally, if you can’t accept me for who I am then it would probably not be a good idea to enter my life. I am not about masks or hiding who I am. I sure as heck won’t give you my email address or phone number or real name so that you can stalk me, which happened once and never again. But my picture, well, I can live with the fact that everyone who cares to look, knows what I look like.
By the way, it does not affect the way I perceive or accept you if you have or don’t have a RL photo of yourself in your profile...I accept what you permit me to know about you without passing judgment...I love all of you! Peace...
_____________________
I am officialy lurking the forums, trying real hard to not be noticed... Junk & stuff I do... http://tinyurl.com/3549gg
|
Isabeau Imako
P'tite Poulette
Join date: 13 Sep 2007
Posts: 2,335
|
01-18-2008 11:27
I can't help it. When some of you mention 'hiding', I keep picturing in my mind a game of hide-n-seek. A favourite game among my nieces, nephew and I. (BTW, do NOT hide in a suitcase as it seems to be the last place anyone will think of looking. Funny at first, but after 30 minutes, not so much...)
I'm still not convinced that someone with no picture in their profile is 'hiding'. There are many things about me that are not in my profile. So what? Why would a stranger _need_ to know anything about me? How can anyone assume anything about me just 'cause there isn't a picture there? It simply means there's no picture.
|
Dinalya Dawes
=^.^=
Join date: 23 Sep 2007
Posts: 424
|
01-18-2008 12:25
Yanno, I dont go wandering around my RL showing off pictures of my SL, why would I do it the other way around? Those who really need to see me, and I decide the 'need' will, everyone else gets to draw a prettier picture in their mind and I am ok with that lol. Maybe if I showed people my AV in RL they would think differently of me and think I am hawt. 
_____________________
http://slgrandillusion.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinalyadawes/
|
Graphicguru Gustav
Accepts head scritchings!
Join date: 5 Oct 2007
Posts: 775
|
meow!
01-18-2008 12:29
From: Dinalya Dawes Maybe if I showed people my AV in RL they would think differently of me and think I am hawt.  You are HAWT! (meow)
_____________________
I am officialy lurking the forums, trying real hard to not be noticed... Junk & stuff I do... http://tinyurl.com/3549gg
|
Strauss Ulderport
Registered User
Join date: 3 Dec 2007
Posts: 326
|
01-18-2008 13:21
From: Graphicguru Gustav Responding to the original post and skimming through the many posts in this thread... (No offence to anyone)...I am at work at the moment and pressed for time. I don’t mind if anyone sees my RL picture in my profile...(and yes it is there to see if you wish too see it) and if it makes you feel less comfortable seeing it and you decide to steer away from me when looking at it, then it probably is best we don’t meet anyway. I always felt, and will always feel this way personally, if you can’t accept me for who I am then it would probably not be a good idea to enter my life. I am not about masks or hiding who I am. I sure as heck won’t give you my email address or phone number or real name so that you can stalk me, which happened once and never again. But my picture, well, I can live with the fact that everyone who cares to look, knows what I look like. By the way, it does not affect the way I perceive or accept you if you have or don’t have a RL photo of yourself in your profile...I accept what you permit me to know about you without passing judgment...I love all of you! Peace... Kudo's GG, you said what I was attempting to, perhaps in a more tactful way. 
_____________________
Strauss Ulderport -------------------- Owner of NightHallows Lair Industrial, Goth, Darkwave & Techno music venue www.nighthallowslair.net
|
Maggie McArdle
FIOS hates puppies
Join date: 8 May 2006
Posts: 2,855
|
01-18-2008 13:23
From: Strauss Ulderport Kudo's GG, you said what I was attempting to, perhaps in a more tactful way.  
_____________________
There's, uh, probably a lot of things you didn't know about lindens. Another, another interesting, uh, lindenism, uh, there are only three jobs available to a linden. The first is making shoes at night while, you know, while the old cobbler sleeps.You can bake cookies in a tree. But the third job, some call it, uh, "the show" or "the big dance," it's the profession that every linden aspires to.
|
Brenda Connolly
Un United Avatar
Join date: 10 Jan 2007
Posts: 25,000
|
01-18-2008 13:27
From: Graphicguru Gustav Responding to the original post and skimming through the many posts in this thread... (No offence to anyone)...I am at work at the moment and pressed for time.
I don’t mind if anyone sees my RL picture in my profile...(and yes it is there to see if you wish too see it) and if it makes you feel less comfortable seeing it and you decide to steer away from me when looking at it, then it probably is best we don’t meet anyway. I always felt, and will always feel this way personally, if you can’t accept me for who I am then it would probably not be a good idea to enter my life. I am not about masks or hiding who I am. I sure as heck won’t give you my email address or phone number or real name so that you can stalk me, which happened once and never again. But my picture, well, I can live with the fact that everyone who cares to look, knows what I look like.
By the way, it does not affect the way I perceive or accept you if you have or don’t have a RL photo of yourself in your profile...I accept what you permit me to know about you without passing judgment...I love all of you! Peace... Just to clear up a possible misconception. I don't think those that say we don't look at the RL tab say we won't accept the real you based upon looks or whatever. To me, it's just that it isn't important who or what you are in RL for me to have SL interaction with you.
_____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com
|
Cherry Czervik
Came To Her Senses
Join date: 18 Feb 2006
Posts: 3,680
|
01-18-2008 14:39
From: Graphicguru Gustav Responding to the original post and skimming through the many posts in this thread... (No offence to anyone)...I am at work at the moment and pressed for time.
I don’t mind if anyone sees my RL picture in my profile...(and yes it is there to see if you wish too see it) and if it makes you feel less comfortable seeing it and you decide to steer away from me when looking at it, then it probably is best we don’t meet anyway. I always felt, and will always feel this way personally, if you can’t accept me for who I am then it would probably not be a good idea to enter my life. I am not about masks or hiding who I am. I sure as heck won’t give you my email address or phone number or real name so that you can stalk me, which happened once and never again. But my picture, well, I can live with the fact that everyone who cares to look, knows what I look like.
By the way, it does not affect the way I perceive or accept you if you have or don’t have a RL photo of yourself in your profile...I accept what you permit me to know about you without passing judgment...I love all of you! Peace... Awww it's not that. Frankly if you had a picture of your cat in your RL tab too ... I just don't like ANY rl pictures in SL.
|
Kenbro Utu
Registered User
Join date: 26 Sep 2006
Posts: 483
|
01-18-2008 15:51
There is nothing wrong with being as immersive as one wants to be, for whatever reason, and neither is there anything wrong with those of us who choose not to be.
|
Aeslyn Dae
over and out
Join date: 12 Jul 2007
Posts: 453
|
01-18-2008 16:50
Anyone can have events or periods of time in their RLs that might deliver a damaging blow to their self esteem. Even the toughest skinned types aren't always immune.
I can see how SL could be a welcome respite for many folk with various problems and, if a bit of escapism helps, good luck to them I say. They shouldn't be made to feel unwelcome. It seems very unfeeling to suggest they ought not be here, or should somehow shape up or ship out.
Last year I had a few months when RL sucked bigtime and I was very glad to have some SL sunshine brightening up gloomy days. I feel for anyone already low or depressed for whatever reason and then coming upon the disparaging remarks in this thread.
|
Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
|
01-24-2008 13:12
From: Strauss Ulderport Yes I will go out of my way to tip toe though the dasies to make sure I dont hurt any more fragile egos or estemees. Or perhaps, people on the net should grow a LITTLE skin and take posts such as mine for face value rather then reading into it to find every way to twist it into a personal insult.
Id taken some time out of town so I never replied to this. But seeing as you are continuing your disgruntled stance in another thread - looks like I should now. I don't think you actually read my post with any sort of an open mind. Your whole response seems more biased against the people you disparaged the first time. My point was if you want to avoid negative flack you have to be more diplomatic in how you post. If you don't mind the negative flack don't. But seeing as you were the one whining about how they were attacking you - I offered some suggestions. No matter how carefully worded the whole: "I should be allowed to be blunt - but people shouldn't come back after me" idea is .. Its still a bunch of nonsense.
|
Kitten Inshan
Hello
Join date: 8 Jan 2008
Posts: 43
|
01-24-2008 13:33
From: Ivanova Shostakovich I like to keep rl out of my SL to a certain extent. When you are getting to "know" someone in SL and at some point, whether it's a new picture/profile change, or you accidentally look, you see their rl picture.....
Does that change things for you?
Sometimes it changes things for me. Not in a bad way. It just makes it different. I started playing in a RP sim and posted some pictures on Flickr. Started to change my mind about what was going on when I found a group for that city and noticed several people I had interacted with were actually the same person. Then I saw a real life picture of someone . . . and yes, it does change things for me. And no, I didn't go looking for real life pictures, I was looking for Second Life pictures on Flickr.
_____________________
Я не говорю русского. 我不講這種語言。 Ik spreek deze taal niet. Je ne parle pas cette langue. (or Je ne parle pas Francais; Je parle Angalis). Ich spreche nicht diese Sprache. Δεν μιλώ αυτήν την γλώσσα. Non parlo questa lingua. 私はこの言語を話さない。 나는 이 언어를 말하지 않는다. Eu não falo esta língua. Cheerio, I do not speak this lingo lassie. Howdy Mate . . . um . . not speak . .um
|
Kitten Inshan
Hello
Join date: 8 Jan 2008
Posts: 43
|
01-24-2008 13:44
From: Solanghe Sarlo Nah Mike, can't let you get away with this one. I'm 4th generation military, my father is a retired Marine and I myself recently retired after 20+ years in the service myself. And yet, I usually manage to post succinctly without upsetting too many people. At least so far. So, I ain't buying that excuse.  Hey neat, I'm second generation military brat (Grandfather in army, so mother was army brat; father in air force, etc.  ). I am not in the military, though a cousin was, and a brother in law was, but that has nothing to do with me. 
_____________________
Я не говорю русского. 我不講這種語言。 Ik spreek deze taal niet. Je ne parle pas cette langue. (or Je ne parle pas Francais; Je parle Angalis). Ich spreche nicht diese Sprache. Δεν μιλώ αυτήν την γλώσσα. Non parlo questa lingua. 私はこの言語を話さない。 나는 이 언어를 말하지 않는다. Eu não falo esta língua. Cheerio, I do not speak this lingo lassie. Howdy Mate . . . um . . not speak . .um
|
Kitten Inshan
Hello
Join date: 8 Jan 2008
Posts: 43
|
01-24-2008 13:47
From: Michael Bigwig Read her fuckin quote...jesus christ you guys...it's clear as day. Stop flaming me just because...what I said was completely legitimate...
Don't get me angry...I'll tell a Linden... Hehe - that's funny  "I'll tell a Linden."  And why do people keep calling Orfeu "she"? Seemed to be a male in world and a male picture under the name.
_____________________
Я не говорю русского. 我不講這種語言。 Ik spreek deze taal niet. Je ne parle pas cette langue. (or Je ne parle pas Francais; Je parle Angalis). Ich spreche nicht diese Sprache. Δεν μιλώ αυτήν την γλώσσα. Non parlo questa lingua. 私はこの言語を話さない。 나는 이 언어를 말하지 않는다. Eu não falo esta língua. Cheerio, I do not speak this lingo lassie. Howdy Mate . . . um . . not speak . .um
|
Orfeu Miles
Registered User
Join date: 18 May 2007
Posts: 106
|
01-24-2008 14:23
From: Kitten Inshan And why do people keep calling Orfeu "she"? Seemed to be a male in world and a male picture under the name. ((To be read in a Mohamed Ali accent )) Its cause, I'm so pretty. 
|
Derbor Torok
Lost soul
Join date: 21 Jun 2007
Posts: 1,016
|
01-24-2008 14:38
Not sure if anyone saw this (or maybe someone alrady posted it...) but it seemed on topic... .d (might be nsfw) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV0aMfrBtGo
|
Monalisa Robbiani
Registered User
Join date: 9 Jul 2007
Posts: 861
|
01-24-2008 14:42
From: Strauss Ulderport With all due respect, some of us have fine FL's and do not use SL as a gateway to make up shortcomings or self esteme boosters. Thus don't need to 'immerse' (aka hide my rl self) to the degree others, for whatever reason, do. With all due respect, some of us have a fine FLs and don't need our FL data, photos, names, phone numbers and biographies to be spread all over the internet, to meet strangers on face book and show them our pics around. We have real friends with real faces in real life. We have real life partners and real sex in in real life. We want SL to be a seperated entity, a world of fantasy with no limitations where we can be anything we want, a truly _second_ life. I wonder which is more "disturbing", a person "hiding" everything about their FL or someone putting their CV with pic and webcam link on the FL tab?
|
Kitten Inshan
Hello
Join date: 8 Jan 2008
Posts: 43
|
01-24-2008 15:01
From: Orfeu Miles ((To be read in a Mohamed Ali accent )) Its cause, I'm so pretty.  Really sorry, but I began that "fly like a butterfly, sting like a bee" quote in my head, it switched at "butterfly" to a Mike Tyson voice, and I then read what you wrote hearing the Mike Tyson voice . . and picturing Mike Tyson saying it (for those not in the know - Tyson is a really huge well built boxer (last I saw, could be a 300 pound weeny now that he is off somewhere) that has a Richard Simmons . .dang it . . a very squeaky voice; He is the kind of guy you want to laugh when he talks, but know he will bite your ear off if you do, and I'm not joking about bitting your ear off). I really am laughing here at work  Sorry. Dang it - I just reread what I wrote, reread what you wrote, still hearing Tyson, and burst out laughing again. "I'm so pretty."
_____________________
Я не говорю русского. 我不講這種語言。 Ik spreek deze taal niet. Je ne parle pas cette langue. (or Je ne parle pas Francais; Je parle Angalis). Ich spreche nicht diese Sprache. Δεν μιλώ αυτήν την γλώσσα. Non parlo questa lingua. 私はこの言語を話さない。 나는 이 언어를 말하지 않는다. Eu não falo esta língua. Cheerio, I do not speak this lingo lassie. Howdy Mate . . . um . . not speak . .um
|
Orfeu Miles
Registered User
Join date: 18 May 2007
Posts: 106
|
01-24-2008 15:07
From: Kitten Inshan I really am laughing here at work  Sorry. Tyson in his prime, was quite a brute, poor defensively, but ulta-aggresive in attack. He had van-Gogh's ear for music though. 
|