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Phil Deakins
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04-04-2008 09:18
OMG take a pill ![]() _____________________
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Toy LaFollette
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04-04-2008 09:20
I'm so sorry if you can't take facts. Never mind - one day you might learn ![]() The facts I see are that your customers are insignificant, you'd rather cater to your bots. No confusion there. _____________________
"So you see, my loyalty lies with Second Life, not with Linden Lab. Where I perceive the actions of Linden Lab to be in conflict with the best interests of Second Life, I side with Second Life."-Jacek
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Atashi Yue
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04-04-2008 09:22
*the ignore list is your friend*
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Darkness Anubis
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04-04-2008 09:23
*the ignore list is your friend* QFT |
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Alicia Sautereau
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04-04-2008 09:25
*the ignore list is your friend* but where`s the fun in that? _____________________
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VonGklugelstein Alter
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04-04-2008 09:26
Maybe someone can take a break from the endless whining and answer a real question related to this subject a few posts earlier... haha
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Colette Meiji
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04-04-2008 09:26
You are right for once. I have usually done my share in escalting them, BUT *never* in starting them, until the two recent threads. That privilege has always belonged to the nasty people here. You don't see the point. Without escalation, most would have fizzled out. But you seem not able to let *any* perceived slight go. Even those not intended as such. And once escalated you will not let things simmer down. Which completely explains what happened in this thread. You are still spoiling for a fight from that stupid "many if not most" junk. |
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Phil Deakins
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04-04-2008 09:27
The facts I see are that your customers are insignificant, you'd rather cater to your bots. No confusion there. Customers are very important to me. If you've ever been one, and have had queries, problems, or wanted something special, you would know that. _____________________
Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices.
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Yosef Okelly
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04-04-2008 09:27
You sure know a way to a girl's lips. Here you go. ![]() Ahhh, I can die happy now ![]() |
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Brenda Connolly
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04-04-2008 09:31
Maybe someone can take a break from the endless whining and answer a real question related to this subject a few posts earlier... haha Done. By me of all people ![]() _____________________
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Phil Deakins
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04-04-2008 09:31
You don't see the point. Without escalation, most would have fizzled out. Which completely explains what happened in this thread. You are still spoiling for a fight from that stupid "many if not most" junk. _____________________
Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices.
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Ciaran Laval
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04-04-2008 09:35
Then you misread again. The people who are insignificant are those who say that they won't shop at a place if it uses bots. *They* are insignificant in pretty much the same way that people who say they will leave SL because of the instabilities are insignificant to LL. Unfortunately Phil is right. A handful of people on the forums saying they won't shop where bots exist makes very little difference and the guy with the store who on ethical grounds doesn't try to workaround the system finds himself losing far more customers than the guy with the bots generating traffic to make their products more visible in the search listings. Now if LL would eliminate traffic from relevancy then we might see a difference. |
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Toy LaFollette
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04-04-2008 09:35
Then you misread again. The people who are insignificant are those who say that they won't shop at a place if it uses bots. *They* are insignificant in pretty much the same way that people who say they will leave SL because of the instabilities are insignificant to LL. Customers are very important to me. If you've ever been one, and have had queries, problems, or wanted something special, you would know that. so you limit 'your customers' to those who dont dislike bots? Is this like some part of a business plan? Do you turn away people who dont agree with your slanted ideals? I know now I am insignificant because I dont agree with you. If you feel its a good business practice call anyone insignificant? pls answer the questions before I mute an insignificant business owner ![]() _____________________
"So you see, my loyalty lies with Second Life, not with Linden Lab. Where I perceive the actions of Linden Lab to be in conflict with the best interests of Second Life, I side with Second Life."-Jacek
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Colette Meiji
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04-04-2008 09:37
So what you're saying is that a person should just allow people to be nasty to them, without reacting to it. Don't you think it would make much more sense if people just weren't nasty in the first place? It's the instigators who are at fault. If you had defended your views without the constant personal attacks people might have been persuaded to settle down. Again, you are right. That feeding frenzy, and gross stupidity of people in that thread, definitely had an effect on me, to the extent that I now assume the nastiness, such as you and others posted in that thread, and preemt it. So your response is to attack someone who never even posted in that thread? |
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Phil Deakins
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04-04-2008 09:39
so you limit 'your customers' to those who dont dislike bots? Is this like some part of a business plan? Do you turn away people who dont agree with your slanted ideals? I know now I am insignificant because I dont agree with you. If you feel its a good business practice call anyone insignificant? pls answer the questions before I mute an insignificant business owner ![]() _____________________
Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices.
http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/ |
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Colette Meiji
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04-04-2008 09:45
There are only 4 people in the ban list. Dang. And MoxZ is one. If I'm another thats half the ban list right here on this thread. ![]() |
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Phil Deakins
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04-04-2008 09:46
If you had defended your views without the constant personal attacks people might have been persuaded to settle down. So your response is to attack someone who never even posted in that thread? _____________________
Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices.
http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/ |
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Damien1 Thorne
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04-04-2008 09:47
Dang. And MoxZ is one. If I'm another thats half the ban list right here on this thread. ![]() How does one get on this ban list? Kinda sounds like some new clique! ![]() |
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Darkness Anubis
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04-04-2008 09:47
I don't limit my customers at all. Where did you get that idea from? And I turn away very few people. There are only 4 people in the ban list. If people don't want to shop there for whatever reason, it's their business, not mine. All I do is make good products and sell them at very low prices. If people want to buy, they buy, and if they don't want to buy, they don't buy. I can't make them do one thing or the other. A relative of mine with an extremely sucessful RL business likes to say "A good impression gets you 5 new customers. A Bad impression Loses you 20." From personal experience that is pretty much true RL or SL. Here in the forums recently you do come off as a wholey nasty person. Argumentative and unpleasant. The thing to remember is that in this or any other forums there are a whole lot more people who lurk and never post than those who egage you in verbal warfare. What kind of an impression are you giving all those potential customers? Is that not limiting your customer base by alienating potential paying customers before they ever land at your shop? |
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Marcel Flatley
Sampireun Design
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04-04-2008 09:47
Well I think that people who read the threads Phil referred to, know he has a point there.
Phil is a rare person, because he is the only one who I know admitting he runs a botfarm. And got a whole load of crap over himself because of that. And no, I am no friend of his, we never met even exept on this forum. But I can sure understand his current thoughts. And I do admire the fact he dares to stand for what he believes, even though it goes straight against what most people think. And believe me, in certain posts he made in those threads, I though of him as a stubborn a** ![]() Still, the current reaction is wrong, because now you are starting yourself Phil, which does not make you any different then the people attacking you in those threads. Nasty, in your own words. So I would advise you not to Fighting mud with mud does no good. Never.Greetings, Marcel _____________________
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Phil Deakins
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04-04-2008 09:47
If I'm another thats half the ban list right here on this thread. ![]() _____________________
Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices.
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Phil Deakins
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04-04-2008 09:49
How does one get on this ban list? Kinda sounds like some new clique! ![]() ![]() _____________________
Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices.
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Colette Meiji
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04-04-2008 09:49
How does one get on this ban list? Kinda sounds like some new clique! ![]() MoxZ just said in general could she orbit bots then after Phil said people should't do things like that , she made a trip out to his place and found herself banned. SO I guess the process is 1) Express an intention to orbit bots 2) tell Phil you are coming out to see his place. |
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2k Suisei
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04-04-2008 09:52
Just send me 1000L and you're in ![]() I'll send you some dog poo in a bag, it'll be much cheaper way. |
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Alicia Sautereau
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04-04-2008 09:53
Well I think that people who read the threads Phil referred to, know he has a point there. Phil is a rare person, because he is the only one who I know admitting he runs a botfarm. And got a whole load of crap over himself because of that. And no, I am no friend of his, we never met even exept on this forum. But I can sure understand his current thoughts. And I do admire the fact he dares to stand for what he believes, even though it goes straight against what most people think. And believe me, in certain posts he made in those threads, I though of him as a stubborn a** ![]() Still, the current reaction is wrong, because now you are starting yourself Phil, which does not make you any different then the people attacking you in those threads. Nasty, in your own words. So I would advise you not to Fighting mud with mud does no good. Never.Greetings, Marcel this is the result of hist so called "premptive attack", if he wouldn`t have posted untill being named, this thread most likely would have died befor hitting page 2 him discussing justifying the use of bots, couldn`t care less but his arrogance and egocentric believes are astonishing to a point i haven`t seen yet on these forums or ingame since joining sl _____________________
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