Stolen business name?

I can only respond to what you write, Kitty. If you don't want your words to be taken as they are written, then write words that you do want to be taken as they are written.

Traffic bots did have LL's "blessing". You may not know or accept it, but those of us who actually asked them, know it.

I think that covers your post.

Innula I'm sure you're right from the legal position... there was an instance locally that got a bit of press attention (names changed). Big store 'Harrowbins', gives little store 'arrowbins' grief and they weren't even selling similar stuff. Agreed its a play on words and the similarity is there, piggy back name style. However big corporate giant takes on the little guy. Big guy always wins. My point is this...market forces dictate success. If Phil's business is sound, perhaps he doesn't need to worry about the little fella trying to eke out a basic living at the far end of the scale. As someone said a while back, customers are quite savvy and buy according to their pocket, or because they know the name (creator) and they like their stuff. There's a big market place in SL. Protect your interests by all means, but someone mentioned that Phil's stance here could perhaps 'damage' his business reputation more than Floyd could achieve and my main point was that any publicity is good publicity. Morality doesn't really come into it.

I am not replying to Sling's comment, because I can't get a handle on her statements.

That's true. I'd already decided that any publicity about Prim Savers not being associated with PrimSavers would only lead people to have a look at PrimSavers

Noticed it was that ALT's very 1st post?....what's the betting it was actually that guy's SL partner or one of his staff. She mentioned traffic in her post....which kind of implies she one of those that sits on the parcel 24/7 accumulating traffic points under the guise of being a staff member or owner's partner.

I saw the Furniture and to be honest i wasn't overly impressed regarding the quality, it's no better or no worst, then most of the companies that supply modern looking furniture. However I'm not a connoisseur of Modern furniture....as my preference are Antiques and old period Furniture.....most (not all) Modern furniture look like coloured boxes to me....not very appetising, so I profess not to be an expert when evaluating Modern Furniture or it's quality as its stuff i would never buy!

Now, now... Ellaine was on my parcel a grand total of 30 minutes maybe over 2 months. Don't make random assumptions.

This Topic was about the use of a Company name...and you very quickly turned the thread into ethics and business practices and linking it to an earlier thread. It serves no purpose! You're just stirring up personal arguments or vendettas... as bystanders we end up diverting away from the subject matter.

We know where Phil stands on gaming of Search.....does it really need to be regurgitated again and again?

There's a small pack of Wolves within these RA Forums....as soon as a Topic is opened that even mildly connects to Search.....you all descend from the hilltops! This topic doesn't even have anything to do with the gaming of Search, it's just the fact who opened the thread that matters to you all. It's really a sad state of affairs.

Now how would you know that if you weren't logged in 24/7? Do you ever sleep?

If they are registered as required, its not illegal against the current Policy. Read Jack's final Blog and his judgement of Bots & Camping. It's up to LL to make the next step....strip out Bot traffic units from Parcel traffic. As far as Phil or anyone else using Registered Models (Bots or Avatars)....they're not breaking the new rules.

12 instances of unwittingly making an absent minded mistake? i wonder what the odds are in making the same mistake 12 times, knowing it's the same name as an existing SL company?

As of yesterday.(might be changed now) i saw these 2 companies

Prim Savers - Low Prim Furniture

PrimSavers - Low Prim Furniture


Makes you want to say ....hmmmmh!

Well LL might not have cheered for BOTs, but they certainly benefited from the inflated login numbers which they could use in their Press releases or interviews or SL related articles. At the time it served their purpose!

I maintain, if LL really wanted to clear up all the Bots on the Grid....they could have. 10 mths in and there are still a few thousand unregistered Bots around the Grid. It's there to be seen in Places Search.

Well yours & Kitty's logic is daft anyways!

LL benefited with Bot Login numbers just at the time they were experiencing huge growth.....it served them well to brag how popular SL was becoming, even it did include an element of inflated numbers. It's much like LL's Quarterly Economic Reviews.....if you know what to look for, you can pretty much dismantle most of the hype e.g those misleading PMLF figures

LL does not benefit from Estate-owners rolling over their Residents nor AdFarms littering the landscape...in fact it provides negative PR for the platform. As we all know already, LL doesn't like getting involved in Resident-to-Resident disputes......which could end up the same way with Phil's OP complaint.

She's his SL daughter. My post was directed at all the times 'KITCHEN' is misspelled in the Primsavers store description and keywords. That's why I said check with Prim Savers if one needs to know how to spell Kitchen correctly.

If you saw the items... you would know it's the same item rezed in different colors...

Lol- as i said, when you begin to scratch the surface it gets messier. I thought it was SL partner or employee.....but SL Daughter is a good enough close association! As for the spelling errors....that might have something to do with the "Romanian" aspect that he referred to in one of his earlier postings.






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Thank you kindly. Of course this is the only typo in SL

Marcel, aren't you glad your store name could not ever possibly be mistaken for anything else?

Yes, English is my third language, however that much I know how to spell.

I'm talking about the actual Parcel names in ABOUT LAND.....I'm not talking about Logo designs, that's not being questioned in this particular dispute.


EDIT * Ah i see what you meant, it's the same product produced in 12 colours, so you copied the Prim name on each occasion and then edited the part for "colour" description ....so you had 12 opportunities to realise your spelling error! I comprendi now!

I keep saying this, but the fanboize don't listen.

This thread is someone who says right and wrong begins and ends with the written rules asking someone else to "do the right thing".
It's hilarious!
It's COSMIC.
It's popcorn time!

This thread is all about ethics and business practices.

It's probably not the only typo in SL; but if one is selling something one should know how to spell it. If I wanted to buy a kitchen, and searched for it (low prim kitchen) Prim Savers would come up but you wouldn't. So yeah that kind of thing is important when trying to establish a customer base, I would think.

I'm not even considering the ethics or business practices of naming his company almost exactly the same......i'm looking at it from a trading point of view. As things stand, it will damage both companies one way or another. Like a poster previously mentioned....the prospect of some overzealous consumer AR'ing either of the creators (most likely Floyd as he's new) for copybotting when viewing the product under EDIT mode and seeing the "Prim Savers/ PrimSavers" name. It's just unnecessary hassle having to explain to LL, that there are 2 companies with similar names. That's just one example of wasted admin time!



.....and i will keep saying the below.

Wrong.

It's not the Who.

It's the Who posting a particular What.
In the case of this thread, the What is gobsmacking in the light of the Who's clear statement on right and wrong only a few hours previously.


The Who could post on any other topic and there wouldn't the slightest sign of what you describe as wolfish behaviour.


The Who posting that What is the near-equivalent of me posting in praise of a Picks Buying system.

I disappear from RA Forums for 3 or 6 mths at a time....I come back and I see the same Rottweiler traits from before. Nothing has changed...has it Sling?

You disrupted this thread, you disrupted the "About Ethics" thread......you disrupted "The most honest in my Field" thread......and so it goes on with you! Same ol' ...same ol'

Phil, Im really sorry this has happened to you
I dont know what to do or say that will help..but ~hugs~ anyway..hope it gets sorted out in your favour.
Fai <3

You think there can be a discussion about ethics without mentioning any case studies?
Let's talk about ethics without giving any examples of ethical and unethical behaviour?

Let's talk about honesty without talking about honesty?


The same ol' same ol' is people reacting badly when they are called on their behaviour. The same ol' same ol' is people trying to defend the indefensible by going into denial and performing semantic dances.

What's new for RA in this thread is the utterly fantastic demand that someone "do the right thing", when the person doing the asking has consistently ridiculed the idea of "doing the right thing" for years.