Men playing as Women/Women playing as Men
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
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12-19-2008 08:03
From: Key MacMoragh I suppose if someone really wanted to be "sure" they could go to the TG clubs...
I'm not sure what they'd be sure of, but at least they'd be sure. Finding TG clubs in SL has been a SCARY endeavor so far... I wouldn't recommend it unless you like to randomly run into herms that like to flail their pen0rs around in public. (T_T) (( Honestly, of the crowds I know, there are a lot of TG hiding out in GLBT places and I see that can lead to great frustration. As a whole, it never matters what our avatars look like. But come the moment of intimacy, I can see where people want to draw the line. But, for regular social chat and general meetups, I prefer to take the avatar at face vaule, regardless of RP, "deception", or otherwise. I, myself, have a very broad scope. While, in RL, I'm pretty darned straight. In SL, I'm pretty much "anything goes". But, not without disclosure on my part. Any relationship I have inworld is genuine to me. From friendship to partnership. Like it says in my profile: "If I see you care, you will know about me. Probably more than you want to know." I won't be one to ask for genuine disclosure because I don't think it concerns me. But, I have met people that are concerned. So I'm approaching things with "better safe than sorry". I have no probelm at all with any part of the TG scene in SL. I don't think people have to tag themselves like they're lepers. But I also don't think it's right to put on a full deception act with anyone they get intimate with. In the end; Keep the mystery alive. And be careful not to hurt the people that appreciate you. )) (^_^) |
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
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12-19-2008 08:05
I'm all jacked up on Mountain Dew! =^-^= |
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Key MacMoragh
grrr....
Join date: 16 Sep 2008
Posts: 659
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12-19-2008 08:07
From: Jig Chippewa Do you have any work you should be doing, Key? ... According to my watch you have at least 6 more hours to go (including 5 minutes off for lunch) before you can consider it time to thread teh Friday needle. Just think of having me as your friendly bossess! (Just jokes, I think?) I'd prefer to think of you as my grown-up daughter who lives in the next town. HA! |
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Key MacMoragh
grrr....
Join date: 16 Sep 2008
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12-19-2008 08:08
From: Imnotgoing Sideways Finding TG clubs in SL has been a SCARY endeavor... I've been to some where everyone is quite friendly and, of course, devastatingly beautiful. I'm not that much of a clubber, though, really. It was just a half-joking, wondering aloud kind of thing... But I don't see why people get their panties in a bundle about the true identities of their partners in casual sexual encounters. If it's a relationship, that's different. I think honesty is necessary, even at the risk of ruining the relationship. |
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Milla Janick
Empress Of The Universe
Join date: 2 Jan 2008
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12-19-2008 08:08
From: Imnotgoing Sideways Finding TG clubs in SL has been a SCARY endeavor so far... I wouldn't recommend it unless you like to randomly run into herms that like to flail their pen0rs around in public. (T_T) There's another reason to go to TG clubs? |
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Pserendipity Daniels
Assume sarcasm as default
Join date: 21 Dec 2006
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12-19-2008 08:17
From: Key MacMoragh So much for not posting on Friday, eh? I can resist anything but temptation. Pep (And your post confused Jig yet again, I see)
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Key MacMoragh
grrr....
Join date: 16 Sep 2008
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12-19-2008 08:21
From: Pserendipity Daniels Pep (And your post confused Jig yet again, I see) She just hasn't seen it yet. |
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Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
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12-19-2008 08:29
From: Key MacMoragh She just hasn't seen it yet. What post? Answer my thread on climate. Also the BBC one. Its about adultery. I can get everything down to a common denominanator. Then get back to work. I'm gonna eat some oysters (absolutely true). Jig.
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Pserendipity Daniels
Assume sarcasm as default
Join date: 21 Dec 2006
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12-19-2008 08:31
From: Key MacMoragh She just hasn't seen it yet. She has already answered it. Pep (Not realising it referred to me, not you)
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Key MacMoragh
grrr....
Join date: 16 Sep 2008
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12-19-2008 08:44
From: Pserendipity Daniels She has already answered it.
Pep (Not realising it referred to me, not you) Well, I didn't realize you were talking about my earlier post. So now that we've cleared THAT up... (!) |
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Cael Merryman
Brain in Neutral
Join date: 5 Dec 2007
Posts: 380
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12-19-2008 11:26
From: Avawyn Muircastle OMG, that was a pain in the arse with download this and download that, and then they wanted money. And the free trial to hear was a man's voice speaking about how you change your voice like this, but then no sound when the voice was supposed to be changed????????? Not for me! I got better things to do, I hope and I ain't spending no money! Then you have to go through removing all that crap! What a pain in the arse! Got one a long time ago for RP - it not only changes gender for those that want that, but there are a wide range of RP things in the one I bought (Screaming Bee, is that one?). Since I do SL in the same room as my wife while she reads or watches the tube, the whole voice thing died quickly, but it was great fun with the dog - since there was one voice that 'converted' your voice to barking. Unfortunately, if voice got on my wife's nerves, the barking was somewhat worse. The dog and I liked it though. |
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Tanner Core
Registered User
Join date: 17 Dec 2008
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12-21-2008 19:29
From: Lindal Kidd The OP does not Get It.
OP...Second Life is not FaceBook. A lot of people are here to play something that they are not. Staid housewives become wanton escorts. Shy people become party animals. Other people become animals, period. Physically handicapped people become Arnold Schwarzeneggers. And yes, people cross genders.
There are a lot of reasons people do that. Many are transgendered, and in SL they finally get to be the person they've been inside all along. Some are curious about what life is like for the "other half". Some just like to look at a cute ass as their camera follows their avatar around. None of these reasons have anything to do with YOU. That is, they're not out to make you feel "violated and offended".
Why worry about it? Just accept a person as they are. Unless you get into a very serious relationship with someone, their RL gender or age or physical appearance has no more importance than the color of their eyes.
SL can be a truly broadening experience. I'm a middle aged WASP, and politically and sexually pretty conservative. But here I've met people of all ages, all walks of life, hugely varying beliefs and life experiences. You know what? An awful lot of them have turned out to be really nice people, and I've made a lot of friends here.
Try a little tolerance, for gods' sake.
Oh...and your stereotyping really sucks. Believe me, you CAN'T tell a person's gender from their typing, or their word choice, or even their voice (with or without a voice changer). Desmond thinks he can do it by noticing personal space preferences, but I think that one fails too. Your very best bet is to ask them, politely. And then believe their answer, and learn to live with a little uncertainty. I am sorry to com e off wrong to anyone....but i think it is sick for a woman to play as a man or vice versea....many people get serious here and feelings are strong...i have seen it go bad and it is terrible. I am not here to expose anyone or embarrass anyone just get input on how others feel about this and Using Voice is the only way to know if you must..... |
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Ann Launay
Neko-licious™
Join date: 8 Aug 2006
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12-21-2008 19:45
From: Tanner Core but i think it is sick for a woman to play as a man or vice versea.... And everyone should abide by what YOU think? From: someone many people get serious here and feelings are strong...i have seen it go bad and it is terrible. That is a result of miscommunication and/or deliberate dishonesty, not what dollies people choose to use in SL. From: someone I am not here to expose anyone or embarrass anyone just get input on how others feel about this and Using Voice is the only way to know if you must..... Voice is in no way concrete proof of gender. People's voices can be naturally androgynous and modulators are easily obtained for anyone who cares to use them.
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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LittleMe Jewell
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Join date: 8 Oct 2007
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12-21-2008 19:55
From: Ann Launay And everyone should abide by what YOU think?  From: Ann Launay That is a result of miscommunication and/or deliberate dishonesty, not what dollies people choose to use in SL. From: Ann Launay Voice is in no way concrete proof of gender. People's voices can be naturally androgynous and modulators are easily obtained for anyone who cares to use them.
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LittleMe Jewell
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Join date: 8 Oct 2007
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12-21-2008 19:57
I imagine someone probably thinks it is sick when I log myself and my male alt in and put us in sexual positions in order to properly align my pose balls. Then again, as long as I am honest with myself, I do not think I am hurting anyone by this. 
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Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it?
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Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on.
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Ann Launay
Neko-licious™
Join date: 8 Aug 2006
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12-21-2008 20:23
From: LittleMe Jewell I imagine someone probably thinks it is sick when I log myself and my male alt in and put us in sexual positions in order to properly align my pose balls. Then again, as long as I am honest with myself, I do not think I am hurting anyone by this. Prevert! 
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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Dagmar Heideman
Bokko Dancer
Join date: 2 Feb 2007
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12-21-2008 20:51
From: Tanner Core Voice is the only way to know if you must..... ORLY? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktKIBXxdDXU&feature=channel_page  |
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Holocluck Henly
Holographic Clucktor
Join date: 11 Apr 2008
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12-21-2008 21:10
LOL that was great. First about 2 minutes into it. I guess the supplements don't really change the voice eh? To the OP: You know that blue fox you've been dating? They're really not blue. They're purple...
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Conifer Dada
Hiya m'dooks!
Join date: 6 Oct 2006
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12-22-2008 02:21
Don't you like it when brand new residents wade in telling us all what a bad place SL is and how they're going to set it right? From: someone For one most men don't type well and are a little slower than women and men are sloppy. Most women don't type well either and they are a little slower than women who can type well and women who can't type well are sloppy. |
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
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12-22-2008 05:29
From: Conifer Dada Don't you like it when brand new residents wade in telling us all what a bad place SL is and how they're going to set it right?
Most women don't type well either and they are a little slower than women who can type well and women who can't type well are sloppy. That's the fun bit. (^_^) My chat typing is almost always capitalized, punctuated, somewhat grammatically correct, and I always have time for the smileys. =^-^= I wonder what category THAT fits me into. (O.o) (^_^)y ( Note... I said "almost" (=_=) ) |
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Pserendipity Daniels
Assume sarcasm as default
Join date: 21 Dec 2006
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12-22-2008 05:32
From: Imnotgoing Sideways That's the fun bit. (^_^)
My chat typing is almost always capitalized, punctuated, somewhat grammatically correct, and I always have time for the smileys. =^-^=
I wonder what category THAT fits me into. (O.o)
(^_^)y ( Note... I said "almost" (=_=) ) The type I admire, Immy! Pep (Despite all my other prejudices . . .)
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Cael Merryman
Brain in Neutral
Join date: 5 Dec 2007
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12-22-2008 05:39
From: LittleMe Jewell I imagine someone probably thinks it is sick when I log myself and my male alt in and put us in sexual positions in order to properly align my pose balls. Then again, as long as I am honest with myself, I do not think I am hurting anyone by this. No, but you have one hell of a response (or two) if someone tells you to go, well, you know... |
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Jerboa Haystack
TGTKFMA
Join date: 23 Sep 2008
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12-22-2008 05:48
From: LittleMe Jewell I imagine someone probably thinks it is sick when I log myself and my male alt in and put us in sexual positions in order to properly align my pose balls. Then again, as long as I am honest with myself, I do not think I am hurting anyone by this.  sick...sick...sick..sick.. ...and selfish... Think of all the poor duckwalking plywood-wearing naked noobs out there. They're just begging to align pose balls with someone ... anyone! And you have the temerity to log in your alt? 
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Cael Merryman
Brain in Neutral
Join date: 5 Dec 2007
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12-22-2008 05:48
From: Conifer Dada Don't you like it when brand new residents wade in telling us all what a bad place SL is and how they're going to set it right?
Most women don't type well either and they are a little slower than women who can type well and women who can't type well are sloppy. And chat isn't as easy to correct as regular typing in word processors nor is there a spell checker. As a result, many, many people raised on word processors, where starting a sentence with a complete thought and being able to spell are afterthoughts, have problems with both. As a fountain pen collector (and user), I find that most people can't write with a fountain pen in a legible manner partly because not having a complete sentence formed effects the flow of their writing. Another reason cursive writing is considered archaic... (On the other hand, another reason us contrarians think the world has been slowly going down hill since IBM came out with the Selectronic typewriter...) |
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Jerboa Haystack
TGTKFMA
Join date: 23 Sep 2008
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12-22-2008 05:52
From: Cael Merryman As a fountain pen collector (and user), I find that most people can't write with a fountain pen in a legible manner partly because not having a complete sentence formed effects the flow of their writing. Another reason cursive writing is considered archaic...
(On the other hand, another reason us contrarians think the world has been slowly going down hill since IBM came out with the Selectronic typewriter...) meh....written word has been going downhill since... 
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