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Phil Deakins

Prim Savers = low prims

Join date: 17 Jan 2007

Posts: 9,537

01-15-2008 06:26

From: Argos Hawks

If you start to value Caledon, Inc. as if it was a stock, you can easily see that it would require some very deep pockets to pay what Caledon is worth. The kind of people with that amount of resources wouldn't buy it without a whole team of qualified people on full time salary to replace Desmond.

I've no doubt that Desmond is a really nice guy who does excellent things with Caledon, but a whole team of qualified people on full time salaries to replace one person? Pull the other one

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Gummi Richthofen

Fetish's Frasier Crane!

Join date: 3 Oct 2006

Posts: 605

01-15-2008 08:11

From: Kaia Kittel

Thanks Sparkz - I agree, that thanks to LL not intervening with residential disputes, people who rent are abosultely reliant on the honesty of the people they rent from.

I don't ever want to be tarred with the same brush as those who rip people off and steal their money. I take the line that I would never do it in RL and certainly see no reason to do it in SL.

I hope that these theives can live with thier consciences.

Uh... do you suspect the people who participate in the Crack Den roleplay group of taking crack in RL? The thing about SL is, it's sold as a GAME; for all we know, the poeple being bad landlords may be (in the context of this comment) RPing being a bad landlord; after all, experimenting with social relationships and your attitudes to them is what SL is marketed for doing.

As someone else said, this is a bit of a case of "virtual world, real emotions" - if you are an SL player who feels your avatar and presence there is an extension of your whole being, then you will almost certainly suffer badly, when you encounter someone who treats the Avatar, and the experience, as being no more intimate or up-close than an Action man doll playing with Monopoly Money. (trademarks appended as required)

Carl Metropolitan

Registered User

Join date: 7 Jul 2005

Posts: 1,031

01-15-2008 10:23

From: Gummi Richthofen

Uh... do you suspect the people who participate in the Crack Den roleplay group of taking crack in RL? The thing about SL is, it's sold as a GAME [...]

Where is SL sold as a game? I suspect you would be hard pressed to find any Linden Lab advertising materials calling Second Life a game. I've found that "it's only a game" tends to be the first response of the typical griefer, user, or asshole when confronted with their behavior.

Qie Niangao

Coin-operated

Join date: 24 May 2006

Posts: 7,138

01-15-2008 10:51

From: Carl Metropolitan

I've found that "it's only a game" tends to be the first response of the typical griefer, user, or asshole when confronted with their behavior.

Maybe some bankers, too.

(Or perhaps that's redundant with one of the other listed categories.)

Egon Rothschild

Never Enough Prims

Join date: 22 Apr 2006

Posts: 556

01-15-2008 15:01

From: Carl Metropolitan

Where is SL sold as a game? I suspect you would be hard pressed to find any Linden Lab advertising materials calling Second Life a game. I've found that "it's only a game" tends to be the first response of the typical griefer, user, or asshole when confronted with their behavior.

at the risk of reviving the game-not-a-game controversy ....

i am not a griefer, user or asshole (at least i don't think i am).

i am a annual premium resident. so are my alts. i own land. i own a store. i make things. i sell things. i make lindens selling them. i shop. i buy things. etc. and i consider sl a game.

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Argos Hawks

Eclectically Esoteric

Join date: 24 Jan 2007

Posts: 1,037

01-15-2008 15:10

From: Phil Deakins

I've no doubt that Desmond is a really nice guy who does excellent things with Caledon, but a whole team of qualified people on full time salaries to replace one person? Pull the other one

That's what would happen IF someone were to buy Caledon at the price it would be valued at as a corporation. The salaries would be chump change in comparison. They'd probably even keep Desmond as a consultant at twice what he currently makes. I don't know why anyone with that kind of money would buy Caledon, but nobody would spend that much without a full business plan and staff to take it to the next level.

Phil Deakins

Prim Savers = low prims

Join date: 17 Jan 2007

Posts: 9,537

01-15-2008 15:34

Perhaps, but I pointed out that it doesn't take a team of people on full time salaries to do the work of one person - whoever s/he is.

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Phil Deakins Prim Savers = low prims Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 9,537	01-15-2008 06:26 From: Argos Hawks If you start to value Caledon, Inc. as if it was a stock, you can easily see that it would require some very deep pockets to pay what Caledon is worth. The kind of people with that amount of resources wouldn't buy it without a whole team of qualified people on full time salary to replace Desmond. I've no doubt that Desmond is a really nice guy who does excellent things with Caledon, but a whole team of qualified people on full time salaries to replace one person? Pull the other one _____________________ Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Gummi Richthofen Fetish's Frasier Crane! Join date: 3 Oct 2006 Posts: 605	01-15-2008 08:11 From: Kaia Kittel Thanks Sparkz - I agree, that thanks to LL not intervening with residential disputes, people who rent are abosultely reliant on the honesty of the people they rent from. I don't ever want to be tarred with the same brush as those who rip people off and steal their money. I take the line that I would never do it in RL and certainly see no reason to do it in SL. I hope that these theives can live with thier consciences. Uh... do you suspect the people who participate in the Crack Den roleplay group of taking crack in RL? The thing about SL is, it's sold as a GAME; for all we know, the poeple being bad landlords may be (in the context of this comment) RPing being a bad landlord; after all, experimenting with social relationships and your attitudes to them is what SL is marketed for doing. As someone else said, this is a bit of a case of "virtual world, real emotions" - if you are an SL player who feels your avatar and presence there is an extension of your whole being, then you will almost certainly suffer badly, when you encounter someone who treats the Avatar, and the experience, as being no more intimate or up-close than an Action man doll playing with Monopoly Money. (trademarks appended as required)
Carl Metropolitan Registered User Join date: 7 Jul 2005 Posts: 1,031	01-15-2008 10:23 From: Gummi Richthofen Uh... do you suspect the people who participate in the Crack Den roleplay group of taking crack in RL? The thing about SL is, it's sold as a GAME [...] Where is SL sold as a game? I suspect you would be hard pressed to find any Linden Lab advertising materials calling Second Life a game. I've found that "it's only a game" tends to be the first response of the typical griefer, user, or asshole when confronted with their behavior.
Qie Niangao Coin-operated Join date: 24 May 2006 Posts: 7,138	01-15-2008 10:51 From: Carl Metropolitan I've found that "it's only a game" tends to be the first response of the typical griefer, user, or asshole when confronted with their behavior. Maybe some bankers, too. (Or perhaps that's redundant with one of the other listed categories.)
Egon Rothschild Never Enough Prims Join date: 22 Apr 2006 Posts: 556	01-15-2008 15:01 From: Carl Metropolitan Where is SL sold as a game? I suspect you would be hard pressed to find any Linden Lab advertising materials calling Second Life a game. I've found that "it's only a game" tends to be the first response of the typical griefer, user, or asshole when confronted with their behavior. at the risk of reviving the game-not-a-game controversy .... i am not a griefer, user or asshole (at least i don't think i am). i am a annual premium resident. so are my alts. i own land. i own a store. i make things. i sell things. i make lindens selling them. i shop. i buy things. etc. and i consider sl a game. _____________________ “If you talk to God, you are praying. If God talks to you, you have schizophrenia.”
Argos Hawks Eclectically Esoteric Join date: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 1,037	01-15-2008 15:10 From: Phil Deakins I've no doubt that Desmond is a really nice guy who does excellent things with Caledon, but a whole team of qualified people on full time salaries to replace one person? Pull the other one That's what would happen IF someone were to buy Caledon at the price it would be valued at as a corporation. The salaries would be chump change in comparison. They'd probably even keep Desmond as a consultant at twice what he currently makes. I don't know why anyone with that kind of money would buy Caledon, but nobody would spend that much without a full business plan and staff to take it to the next level.
Phil Deakins Prim Savers = low prims Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 9,537	01-15-2008 15:34 Perhaps, but I pointed out that it doesn't take a team of people on full time salaries to do the work of one person - whoever s/he is. _____________________ Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/

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