RP In Areas Not Designated For That Sort of Thing...

Sounds to me you are prejudiced against pink castles! LOL
Big fwuffy towers an tinsel dwawbwidge chains .. ooh jeez! it's catching!!

He he. Thank you for the needed first laugh of the day. Now I won't have to go kick that puppy.

Elgyfu, on behalf of the NYCCDL ... thankyou.

My kids didnt talk like that when they were three, never mind 6. I quite understand your reluctance to deal with that in a business context.

My SL husband and I are D/s lifestyle in our separate RL and in our together SL. We will go to D/s environments dressed appropriately and to none-D/s environments dressed equally appropriately. I would call him Master in the former, not in the latter.. we keep it very strictly appropriate to the area we are in.

I am not a slave, I am a submissive, but to give my view of some of the points raised about slavery, abuse, etc. D/s and BDSM 'slavery' is very different from historical slavery as has been said many times before on this forum. D/s is about consent, in fact submission is a gift from the submissive to the Dominant, and is not something that can be taken, only given.

Beyond that, in online roleplay, there are many aspects that might appear to be non-consenting, but there is ALWAYS the little red X at the top of the screen where you can quit out and go home if you dont like what is happening.

There are abusive relationships in every lifestyle, where one partner abuses the other, even in the most NONE D/s relationships, either physically, mentally or emotionally. If one partner allows him/herself to be abused there is very little an outsider can do about it. How many times does one hear in RL from the wife who has been beaten for the hundredth time by her husband/lover "he was always so sorry afterwards.." or "I cant leave.. i love him so much"

To the feminists, I would say, If feminism is about choice, this is my choice. If I have to be a feminist your way and i cant choose, then I pass.

imogen

I do not permit role play on my land - but what you do elsewhere is none of my business. I don't see any sense in role playing out of context and most of the animations seem quite ludicrous - I wouldn't want anyone thinking I had created them - that *could* harm my business so, no. Slave masters, of course, are required to address me as "ma-am" (to rhyme with jam)

I think someone did actually try it in Darlington (off all places!). He led his scantilly clad "slave girl" on a leash through the shopping centre, whereupon the local populace cried "gor-blimey!" and the butcher banned them from his shop. :-/

So my answer to your question is that I think it should be at the discretion of the landowner/renter/business owner as to what they will allow.

Could you translate that please for those of us not into Welsh lifestyle?

Thanks

Imogen

It just means "I don't know any Welsh".

"There is a time and place for everything under heaven.. this just isn't the time or the place for *that,* sorry."

That is my phrasing for, "I'm sorry, this makes me freaking uncomfortable.. and I can tell that you are outside your normal areas for this kind of thing. I am not critiquing your lifestyle/role play, but I do expect the same kind of respect that you expect for yourself. Would you like it if I walked around, *insert some off the wall kink that I'm not really into but know enough from research to actually talk about* in your areas? No? Well, I'm glad you understand then!"

That made me chuckle.

But those poor slaves, all having to get jobs?!? It breaks my heart.

That's the real slavery .. making poor hobbits sit in a laboratory prep room all day at the computer, scanning the forum ... it's a tough life!

Oooh! coffee time!!!

I do not want a job, thank you very much (I had a job once, occasionally interesting, very rare, but occasionally, mostly very annoying). I voluntarily chose submission, I was not captured against my will. I am following my right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which happens to look like submission under the control of another.

/me growls at the big bad wolf . . eyes turning to fire, skin hardening into armor, finger turn to sharp knives . . .

I know! Jobs are RL slavery. Why shouldn't SL have more fun slavery?

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Anyway, from what it looks like, about half the people either enjoy, are amused, or are indifferent to very light and casual D/s RP in mature areas, most of the rest don't care to see it, but tolerate it, and small portion are squicked by it. And one person is annoyed by this thread. Perhaps two once Strife sees it.

My conclusion? I'm not going to stop, but I am going to be more mindful of the people around me, and try to gauge for negative reactions. If that happens, I'll take it elsewhere.

For what it's worth, my outtings consist of actual shopping. Or window shopping. She may be chained and naked (or clothed as necessary), but we're actually discussing what we're looking at, not RP'ing any sort of scene. No secsies. The usual manner of address is used, however, which I was surprised to hear does bother some people.

Anyhow, thanks for your input! If the thread continues, great, but I expect the lock anytime now.

Eewwwwww.

Geez. That hasn't happened to me yet - I sincerly hope it doesn't.

Ok, in one more time before the lock:

I looked up the definition of "Feminist":


fem·i·nism –noun 1. the doctrine advocating social, political, and all other rights of women equal to those of men.

At first I though maybe I shouldn't have used this particular word when trying to explain why this type of role play bothers me. I also stated in my last post that I respect the choices others make for their lives even if I don't understand it.

But given the true definition of the word here, I really don't understand how being in the position of submission to ANYONE, not just a man, makes one pro-feminist. A position of submission is not by definition an "equal" position. Perhaps a better term would be "pro life-choice"?

And how come people who are in this lifestyle are so touchy about it when someone says they don't get it? Geez.

I didn't think my post was touchy, if you mean me, and I am sorry if it came over that way. I was putting forward my views calmly about some of the points that had been made in previous posts.

The last paragraph, saying that I pass if it means I can't choose how to live my life, could perhaps be mistaken for touchiness. As a human being, male or female, I think one should be allowed to submit or not, to whatever or whomever one chooses to submit, providing one is not hurting anyone or breaking any laws. I make no apologies for that sort of touchiness.

The reason a lot of people are defensive about D/s is that those in the lifestyle are often misunderstood and hear a lot of criticism of their chosen way of life. I try to remain calm about it generally. There is a lot of tolerance within the lifestyle, between its members. Tolerance is very necessary in such a diverse community.

I meant no offence, nor take any.

imogen

Anything taken to excess is in bad taste and should be dealt with on the basis of taste - EXCEPT -

beautiful, voluptuous women in Gorean slave silks. Can't get enough of 'em.

ibtl

What do your kitten and pony think of Gorean slave girls?

The pony likes to give them rides (i'm beginning to wonder about him). And as for the kitten - I just order the slave girls to put out a saucer of milk. He loves anybody who puts out a saucer of milk.

Well, that's an interesting claim. One that I'm not sure I disagree with, but I'm equally uncertain that I do agree with. A healthy D/s relationship has two very different roles. Does that make the people unequal? Honestly, I think not. Unless you consider that the sub has the final say in matters at the end of the day, in which case I suppose you're right: women shouldn't be dominants, because they are "less than" their subs. I'll PM you a little story that recently came up, if you are interested in an example.



Because if we're going to be damned, we want it to be for the right reasons. Not because we're misunderstood (crappy word, but "ignorance" has negative connotations I want to avoid).

You are right. Its not equal, 9 times out of 10 the subbie is totally in charge and has the poor Dom/me wrapped around her finger.

Perhaps this is so Colette, but mainly people who are into BDSM real life don't feel the need to drape themselves in accountrements, titles and other assorted things to stand out as such.

This having been said, in real life people into BDSM can and do act in just as bad a way. Seen it many many times.

What ARE you talking about? A D/s relationship can be F/f, F/m, M/f or M/m and all are very common, and I wouldn't like to try and guess which is the most common.

Um...

and there is no "less" in the relationship...its a give and take...each gives, each takes...