RP In Areas Not Designated For That Sort of Thing...

All I can say to that is that they really are two different things entirely, despite how similarly they may appear. The difference is consent.

Yours is the type of point of view I was hoping to see. Thanks!

I think the best you can hope for is an approximate...you can't please all of the people all of the time, after all. But, of course, be willing to stop the activity in question if asked or if it's apparent that people are uncomfortable (chat stops, they move away, etc.)

Hmmm, on a side note, did you ever make it to Greenies or Hallucinogen?

I think it is inappropriate to impose your kink on other people in non-RP areas. The worst one I have seen was a female poodle-girl (likea pony-girl) being lead on a chain, with a poodle tail plug protruding from her a---.

EDIT: This was at a store that sold exclusivly pretty elven fairy avatar costumes. Not at all an appropriate for displaying ones "poodle-girl" kinks. She, the Master and a friend were all being blatantly verbal about how much they enjoyed shocking anyone else who encountered them. They were trying to be rude and offensive, and probably doing a huge disservice to the dom/sub culture in SL by doing so.

Many of us who have lived in areas where "slavery" had a real and horrible history, find it hard to accept that anyone would voluntarily subject them selves to slavery. It is probably a terribly poor choice of words for sub/dom relationships that are actually consensual by both parties. I can accept this in SL. Still its very hard to overcome the ingrained revulsion that the word "slavery" holds for many of us.

Yeah, "slavery" is almost an unfortunate name for it, because it's an utterly consensual (and not necessarily even sexual) relationship where one partner has chosen to leave certain decisions up to the other.

To address your initial question, Hate, I'd say it's a matter of context and degree. I take my pets shopping quite often, and they refer to me as Mistress, and I refer to them as "pet" or "girl" or "boy" or whatever, but it's not like we conduct scenes in public. We're really just shopping. I have them dress appropriately according to whether it's a mature or PG area. I don't typically leash them in public, more for practical reasons (steps and stairways are an immense pain for the leashed slave).

If all you're doing is minding your own business and behaving within the norms for a given region, I see nothing wrong with being "in character," D/s-wise wherever you go. I find it much more acceptable than the INCREDIBLY rude people we've encountered who feel they've a right to get in our face and insult us directly (or, worse, say nasty things passive-aggressively to each other, but well within chat range) when my family is appropriately dressed and really just shopping.

I'm blessed to have had the opportunity to publicly walk a leashed slave for several populated city blocks in real life- and while some people seemed to notice us, no one accosted us like they often do in SL.

Ah, a perfect example. Mistress took us to Greenies the other day. Leashes, no nudity. We found the vibrator in the drawer. Wasn't long before she released us and we were all over the damned place. Got abducted into a spaceship where we ended up doing the Macerena on a surreal dance floor.

Awesome build! Will definitely visit Hallucinogen.

I waver between amusement (which is not very nice, I admit) to annoyance, but if it is a mature sim, they have every right to do their stuff. I do think it is courteous to keep blatantly sexual acts off the streets though.

SJ

Thank you for correcting my statement. As you say it is a lifestyle as well.

I would disagree regarding your etiquette argument. The titles in this case are meant to indicate someone who has power and control over someone else.

As Hate kindly pointed out it is all censual here in SL (both parties choose to let one have"contol" over the other). This I understand. My discomfort comes from my RL experience and how it has shaped how I view such RPs.

Please don't feel you need to explain or defend such a lifestyle. I would be the first person to say you have every right to it. It is simply not my choice is all.

But at what point are you imposing on someone? Is someone just silently strolling by you imposing on you?

For the record, something like you describe- leading someone on all fours or in humilating attire like that- I would personally restrict that sort of thing for public areas that tacitly allow it. I'd never go to, say, ETD with someone in that state. It's neither appropriate nor necessary, considering how many options we have in SL where such public displays are acceptable.

Wonderful!

Yeah, I'm an anything-goes guy too (at least in"mature" areas), but let's face it, some things are just plain too damn tacky. Get a room!

IRL the reason people dont' do this is they'd be stared at and pointed at.

That and the public indecency thing.

If there was no social ridicule involved you'd see it ..

Of course in real life the number of people into BDSM is small.

One of the reasons it would attract so many stares.

IN SL the number of people who claim to be into BDSM in Real Life is huge.

Many are of course Lying.

The last time I logged on, I set out a few palm trees and changed my shirt. I think I'm playing this game wrong...

LOL. Hey! Cartel Field trip to greenies! I'll Drive.

I love Greenies. Love the small UFO ship that you can fly.

Thread: I have never seen, in Second Life, the activity that you, the OP, mention, and therefore cannot reply. I would need to see it to understand what my reaction might be.

I think this is gonna be one of the big growing pains of SL, as those who do role play (of all sorts) have to deal with those who do not. For myself, I dun personally understand why someone would put a RL piccie an profie on their main tab, but I see it more an more as people view SL as "3D web." Meanwhile, I get to deal with stuff about my role play, furries gt to deal with people grigin abotu them, the stuff in this thread, etc.

As far as I know, there are no "designated no-RP areas" in SL. I'd love to know where they are, so I may avoid 'em in the future





Mari

Suddenly I'm glad I didn't find the vibrator in the drawer...

This falls under Trout's Rule of Life #1:

"If it isn't doing you lasting harm, ignore it or leave."

I'm remarkably lazy. I can't work up the energy to get excited about something that isn't hurting me. I don't mean minor annoyances, which just don't hurt me all that much, I mean actual damage. Someone dragging a slave around just doesn't harm me any. It doesn't annoy me either, but that's the most I can see it being - a minor annoyance. I'm sure I do stuff that other people don't approve of and I don't want them getting all bunched up about it, so why would I?

Hate - have at it take them out and give them some fresh air. If you could, though, please make your slaves do something entertaining for the rest of us. As long as they have to do what you say, make them balance on a beach ball while spinning plates on the ends of sticks and singing The Star Spangled Banner in falsetto.

Better yet, juggle flaming bowling pins while riding a unicycle on a tightrope.

Have you got a chainsaw? I have an idea...

Agreed. Not to mention tacky.



I have to take issue with the above only to say that the reason it may bother some people(myself included) is that calling someone "Master/Mistress" in a general public venue is not a common way of addressing a person - outside of the lifestyle I mean. This is lifestyle-specific behavior.

Speaking as someone outside of the lifestyle, it makes me very uncomfortable. I don't like anything that appears to demean a person - and that's male OR female btw - but I have to say it really annoys me when the slave is a female and the master is male. I'm an old school feminist and it bothers me to see a woman behaving in a subservient manner to a male - even if it is her choice - it just rubs me the wrong way.

Now, before I get flamed let me qualify that by saying I don't presume to even hint that I know anything about the lifestyle - I don't. I just know what makes me personally uncomfortable. *shrugs*

But to answer the OP's original question: I will move away out of chat range or camara range when confronted with it when I am shopping or whatever. If I were visiting a Gor or BDSM sim - which I have btw in order to try and educate myself a little - I would expect to see it and behave respectfully.

But honestly? I really don't want to see it if I'm looking for a toaster.

my 2 cents,

Sol

Better than finding a ballgag in a dumpster.

You might crash into ban lines and get logged off though...

Slave RP is fine by me unless it seems OVERLY abusive and non-consentual, in which case I could join the RP with a baseball bat ?
Nah seriously whatever..........................

Oddly enough, I had somewhat the same reaction. And I was in an adult sim, adult bondage sim, and I was somewhat less . . um . . happy with the non-consentual play I saw. Odd as that might seem.

There is a difference between being a submissive, being a slave, and being violated and abused.

I'm already regretting asking this, but how can it be non-consensual in SL? All you have to do is leave. Take off the collar or shackles or ballgag or whatever you don't like, put on some clothes and tp out or log out. I was non-consensually orbitted and all I had to do was log off and relog back into my home location - no harm done.