griefer rant

This post seems out of character.

You realise that IP banning and hardware profiling doesn't mean shit, right? It's easy to get round if you have even a little technical knowledge. Lurk on 4chan for a day or so and you'll find out how to do it.

I think you're a bit confused. SL isn't real life. The mere fact that someone finds it amusing to annoy you in a video game doesn't mean they necessarily want to kick your ass in real life. You're assuming that these people want to be criminals in real life, when in truth they're just having fun playing a video game. They, atleast, are able to separate SL from RL and probably operate perfectly normally in everyday society. Although I've never griefed, I can see why it would be fun - even though I could kick your ass in real life too.

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I'm afraid I must strongly advise against this. Any time spent on any forum with the word "chan" in its title is wasted time that you could've spent doing something more rewarding and constructive, like gouging your eyes out with your car keys for example.

Besides, he's got a point. Griefers only do what they do because they know (or are at least under the impression) that there will be no consequences for their actions. Where there exists vulnerability to consequences, they will not do those things. I think it says a lot about their character. But that's just my opinion.

Vulnerability to consequences is the reason we pay for goods in shops instead of shop lifting; it's the reason why we don't commit rapes and murders on a daily basis; it's the reason society exists. If there were no consequences in real life, I would have killed atleast 20 people today alone. So it's hardly a suprise that, when put in an environment where there are no consequences, griefers run riot. The phrase "lol internet" immediately springs to mind. Because they don't see the internet as Serious Business the way some people. Second Life even less so.

Hmm really, hmm even if it were a lawless society, I doubt I lack the self control to kill another 20 human beings unless they truely emotionally hurt me rather than just pissed me off.

You've never had the joy of working for Wal-Mart corp have ya?

Why the hell not, if there are no consequences? There are 6 billion people in the world, so it's not like they're in short supply. If there were no consequences I would probably leave a trail of bodies wherever I went. Self control is only an admirable quality where there is a reason to refrain from a given behaviour; not giving in to the temptation to consume alcohol might be admirable - not giving in to the temptation to consume Gatorade is less impressive.

See, I tend to think the opposite. You think it should be OK to do anything unless there's a good reason not to do it. I, on the other hand, need a compelling reason for taking an action before I will take it. "Because I can" is not a compelling reason. "Because it would be funny" might be true, but is still not a compelling reason in and of itself.

Some folks think differently.

I found this to be the most Useful thing they've done. Better than hacking someone, or griefing someone.

Had I known about the protests, I would've joined in.

You have a point. SL is NOT real life. Therefore, they get their kicks from it.

Having been friends with someone who was a griefer, and chatted with others, I can honestly say- in RL they're not a threat. I'd probably feel sorry for most of them. The creative ones get a chuckle out me.

I will venture to say that these are people who feel powerless in RL and only feel like they have some sort of power & control when they cause others 'grief' in SL.

And from RL, I've learned a Baseball bat with nails to the testicles ends most confrontations.

For one thing a non-law based consequence would be making a lot of enemies desiring to kill you really quickly, whether living in paranoia continually and expecting a very short life span would deter you, I'm not you so don't know, but that would certainly be the major deterent to most forward thinking person, before killing everyone who cut them off without indicating in traffic.
Self control is one of the major differences between us and animals
<que Bad Touch song> "You and me baby are nothing but mammals............"

LOL Remind me never to make you two angry.

Although I'd like to believe I'm a nice person, that I wouldn't go on some killing rampage if there were no consequences, having worked in customer service, I can tell you there would be quite a few out there with my pen stuck in their right eye-socket.

So what did you do when it was a woman pissing you off?

That explains all those obese animals wandering around Afria then. They need to learn from our willpower and moderation.

As for the mention of Scientology by someone - the Church of Scientology have killed people, the bribe politicians and police officers in the town of Clearwater. On the day when Anonymous protested outside their buildings all over the world (I was there at the London protest - it was a good day out in the fresh air, and the weather was nice) they hired off duty police officers as security guards at their Clearwater offices. Off duty police officers. Let that sink in. They paid police officers to be their private security guards. The Church of Scientology are a pernicious cancer. I'll certainly shed no tear for them and their DNOS.

Lol, on duty police have killed people too, heaps of places use off duty cops as security. Why else would Maccas and other Fastfood chains give them a free feed?
So you saw the cops kill someone under orders from the church? They're no worse than other churches, the Vaticans been responsible for it's share of "clensing" over the years too.
Even Buddists monks have killed people.

ohhhh..... remember "Back to the Future" and the main character couldn't back off if called "chicken"? big talk behind a little blue box does not = bad ass. be careful, Biff. you don't know who is on the other side of the blue box stepping up to the challenge of your puffed up chest. subdued self control does not = wimp.

well maybe someoe is spoofin jump lane hehehehe

easier. google spoof mac adress
it'll takealla five minutes

me too conan! i could put my foot in his crack and make him ask where his sol ja jaj aja jas at! BUT if im greifin im in a dif mind set. i er did it fr the lulz

David?

The Catholic Church took a thousand years to really warm up and get going. Given that the Church of Scientology have managed to work up to it within a couple of decades, imagine where they'll be a thousand years down the lane. Even Xenu won't be able to save us.

Ultimately though, what it boils down to is that the Scientology exists so Ron Hubbard could dodge taxes on his works of fiction by calling them "articles of faith". It's a clever scam, and I have nothing but respect for his genius in getting away with it.

I'm not sure where you get "police killing someone under orders from the church" from. That sounds suspisciously like you're setting up a straw man argument. In civilised countries though the police are expected to avoid conflicts of interest by not moonlighting on the side. If you think that a democracy that allows that is healthy, then more power to you. I for one would be uncomfortable living in such a society.

If you dislike Scientology, I strongly recommend Operation Clambake. You can organize a protest there without having to endure all the foul language and offensive in-jokes.

Dont let me find out the nail marks match your baseball bat!!!
Im still kicking
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Good site! First place I tell people to go when they ask "What is Scientology".

Funny thing is, within 100 years or so if its still around, Scientology will most likely be a 'legitimate' religion. Just like all the rest.