we got an answer from the lindens on our strip club.

Seems they tried to hide it XD

It's a single word in the last paragraph of the blog post, and blends in nicely. Evil, evil single-word linking.

"A Region may be designated PG so long as it does not advertise or make available any content that ..... or references to ..... or alcohol usage.


Wait until I tell my Dad that he's got to remove the beer from his pub in a PG region.

Come to think of it, the word "pub" has got to go too.

Maybe he can have waterboarding. That's not torture. It's probably PG.

This is one of my main concerns.

Where does this leave a private residential estate? On the one hand, I'm unwilling to constrain what friends and tenants may or may not get up to on their own land -- and I'm certainly unwilling to be myself constrained -- but I'm also very loath to say people can't invite their friends over to their properties -- whether to participate in "adult" activities or not -- unless their friends are age-verified.

From my reading of https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=6010 it seems that the rating system is primarily aimed at how you advertise (that's OK; we don't) but we get a fair few random explorers appearing and wandering round the place, and I'm a bit worried that someone might stumble into my land, discover the castle, be rather perturbed by the dungeons or the fine collection of tentacle monsters living in the garden, and complain.

And I would be really cross if someone turned up and disturbed me and my friends while we were playing with the monsters (or swimming in the nude, come to that, which I gather causes offense in some parts of the world) and then added insult to injury by complaining we were behaving inappropriately.

My concerns are hightened by the fact we host a free resource centre for builders, in a skybox well above the land. That I certainly want to keep as accessable as possible, but we do get a number of people coming there and then exploring the ground below (sometimes as a result of failed tps) though they're not encouraged to.

We've experimented with various solutions in the past -- with a view to protecting people's privacy and quiet enjoyment of the property rather than protecting unknown third parties from seeing anything that might shock them, admittedly -- and come to the conclusion that ban lines, security orbs and the like aren't a very good idea and that, so long as people don't make a nuisance of themselves and leave when asked, it's best to let everyone wander around at will and enjoy our builds.

I'd like this to continue, and I certainly don't want to cause inconvience to friends can't come to visit if they're not age-verified -- I've asked, and flagging the places as "adult" would inconvenience some people. But nor do I want to risk running into problems because some hypothetical person has found his or her way to our lands and feels aggreived at what's to be found there.

well ................................................................
seems that 90% of the grid will be adult.
so much for their sex in private places is ok,sex furniture in mature is ok,skins are ok etc...
the new and unimproved FAQ leaves less as mature, more as adult and a lot more grey areas for LL to allow ARing to blossom in...

everybody start keeping good Excel records of sales and we can all start before and after the debacle blogs...

mainland is going to be a total wasteland populated by throwaway ID griefers with huge wangs..... Ursula and Adult private estates will be staid by comparison...

all this reminds me of a movie about the Kelloggs empire... the discouragement of sexual thought or need by the forced eating of cornflakes.. meanwhile back at the ranch Mr Kelloggs was getting these racy enemas with **** shaped apparati

@Innula: Content in private homes is exempt from being rated Adult. I've no idea if LL extend that definition to private homes rented from a landowner. The impression I got was that they will, but in practice it may not be so clear. All the discussion was aimed at content that is advertised for use, not that which is provided for the owner & friends.

So (to take an extreme example) a bondage & torture room set up in a private residence would be fine, inviting friends back there would be fine, but advertising it in Classifieds, Events or Groups would shift it to Adult.

Thanks. That's my provisional understanding, and it's certainly a common-sense one (which, on past history, probably makes it well wide of the mark).

I would just feel rather more comfortable if I knew for sure that the proposed rules are restricted to (as opposed to "probably won't be applied to anything other than" what you actually advertise and promote as a place of public resort rather than what people may find in the way of al-fresco entertainments for the residents of private sim and their guests in parts of the sim to which the general public have access (though which they certainly aren't encouraged to visit uninvited).

I've put in a support ticket asking for guidance on this matter, and will report back as and when I get a reply.

Since you are only a simple strip club, removing 'escort' from your keywords might help.


The way I am reading the blog, to have a club with 'burlesque' dancers is ok...to have a club with 'burlesque' dancers who emote sexually and/or sell sex to customers is not.

So I think maybe on the mainland there will be a call for dancers who are intelligent enough to master euphemisms

Innula: When you mentioned "al-fresco entertainment" I looked back at your other post. Tentacle monsters in the garden, if they're what I think they are, might push you over the boundary. This is a problem in SL that what constitutes a home isn't as obvious as it is in RL. Previous LL opinion was that such content shouldn't be on open display (in accessible areas), and should be hidden indoors. I know people can cam inside and look (and probably gain access), but I guess that implies that they are trying to be exposed to it, rather than passing by and just happening to see it.

My reading, and as this is all up in the air, likely to change. As you've said, best get an answer from LL.

Its very sad when so called adults need to be wrapped in cotton wool and blinders placed on so they cant accidentally see anything that they may be offended by. Pity those who many be offended by some of the things in SL cant have the mind set to TP out ..

Wind welcomes Mary Whitehouse , Rev Nile and friends to SL

Indeed.

Naively, perhaps, I'd thought a private island was about as private as you can get. Perhaps also naively, I'd thought that one of the benefits of owning one would be that I could freely invite my friends there without having to ensure that their virtual papers were in all order, as it were.

I now rather fear that I'm going to have to restrict access to my islands, thus causing actual inconvenience to actual people (especially people who use the free resource centre we host up in a skybox, well away from ground level), in order to protect the hypothetical sensibilities of some hypothetical, and certainly uninvited, person who may teleport in by accident.

Well, this appears to be the impetus for people to buy Homesteads - as a landing point gateway to your adult island.

I just find it funny that Pirates of the Caribbean Online (a fun little Disney number that has LOADS of technical issues) would be considered adult by LL's new standards... it has violence (sword fights, knives, guns, cannons, voodoo curses that suck the life out of people, lots of killing), some sexual themes(although mild and hard to find), Alcohol, drunkenness, and gambling! (complete with cheating!)... all this in a game marketed as 13+ from a company (and not their more adult oriented subsidiary) that is known for CHILDREN'S entertainment

Dying while laughing. SL is so much fun!

I wonder when or if they will start interfering with Adult ratings.

I just wish they had kept the kids on their Teen thingie and left it be.

nope... that's still bound to give SOMEBODY a boner O_O