Guy, playing a girl avatar, using a female voice modulator.
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Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
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05-09-2008 06:57
From: Yumi Murakami Your subconscious can generally hear "through" a voice changer, because there are other things it knows to look for. Women and men use slightly different emphasis on words and slightly different vocabularies. Of course voice changers can't add these because they require understanding the meaning of what's being said. These can be learned, but often they aren't. Although you won't immediately say, "gee, she's really a man" (or "he's really a woman!"  , you won't have the same natural reactions you would to the same meaning expressed naturally. The buzzing and electronic qualities of the voice are also a bit of a giveaway. Unless it really is Stephen Hawking you're speaking to of course.
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Lancer Bardach
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05-09-2008 07:15
From: Yumi Murakami Your subconscious can generally hear "through" a voice changer, because there are other things it knows to look for. Women and men use slightly different emphasis on words and slightly different vocabularies. Of course voice changers can't add these because they require understanding the meaning of what's being said. These can be learned, but often they aren't. Although you won't immediately say, "gee, she's really a man" (or "he's really a woman!"  , you won't have the same natural reactions you would to the same meaning expressed naturally. If this were true, authors would not be able to write in a clear female voice. It's not hard for a man to assume the guise of a woman and neither is it difficult for a female to assume the guise of a male. All they need to do is get past the obvious stupid stereotypes, such as acting like a dumb bimbo if you're female and like an arrogant beer-swilling dullard if you're a male. As far as I'm concerned on the internet Men are Men, Women are Men, and Children are FBI agents in disguise. Nothing is real, and there's no reason to believe otherwise. Still, some people seem to be silly enough to think, "Hurr! If it has tits ingame it's a chick! Hurrrrr!"
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
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05-09-2008 07:25
From: Lancer Bardach As far as I'm concerned on the internet Men are Men, Women are Men, and Children are FBI agents in disguise. I'm going to have to ask you to come downtown, Lancer. We have some questions for you. What sim were you in yesterday evening around 5:00 p.m. SLT? Mari
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Lancer Bardach
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05-09-2008 07:27
From: Marianne McCann I'm going to have to ask you to come downtown, Lancer. We have some questions for you. What sim were you in yesterday evening around 5:00 p.m. SLT?
Mari You're never going to take me alive! At least until I become the next Josef Fritzl, anyway.
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Crighton Johin
Frell Me Dead
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Good for a joke....
05-09-2008 07:27
I used MorphVox or something like that as a joke for a couple of DJ events I did. One was a gender bending event and the other was a female rocker thing we did. Came as female and when I started talking through the voice changer...lol.....everyone died. It would not fool anyone who actually listens, but was very good for a laugh. Made me sound like I was huffing helium. 
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Lancer Bardach
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05-09-2008 07:29
I wonder how many horny SL studs would continue to hit on the escorts and other assorted sluts if they could see the fat 50-something hairy naked chappie typing away on a semen-stained keyboard on the other side.
edit: dear jaysus what have i done to the top of the page
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Virrginia Tombola
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05-09-2008 07:33
Oldie but goodie: 
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Dana Hickman
Leather & Lace™
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05-09-2008 07:33
From: Lancer Bardach As far as I'm concerned on the internet Men are Men, Women are Men, and Children are FBI agents in disguise. Nothing is real, and there's no reason to believe otherwise. Still, some people seem to be silly enough to think, "Hurr! If it has tits ingame it's a chick! Hurrrrr!" Perfect opportunity to say "well then it's probably a great idea to keep your dick in your pants until you get to know a person better..", right? lmao
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
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05-09-2008 07:35
From: Virrginia Tombola Oldie but goodie:  Hee! I've referenced dat one before. A classic!
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Claire Silverspar
Pokes Badgers With Spoons
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05-09-2008 07:50
meh, doesn't bother me at all. If a guy wants to go to that much trouble to pretend he's a girl, Im gonna treat him like a girl. I normally do anyway. Even if i know the person is not the same gender as their avvie, I treat their avvie as the avvie appears. Saying that: 
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LittleMe Jewell
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05-09-2008 07:53
From: Claire Silverspar ... Saying that:  Or more likely a Toad 
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3Ring Binder
always smile
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05-09-2008 07:56
From: Yosef Okelly <removed so i could take you off topic for a lashing... you've been given the boot from Wren Mall. 
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Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
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05-09-2008 08:03
From: Lancer Bardach If this were true, authors would not be able to write in a clear female voice. People don't really have a social response to characters in books - and if it's a play or film, there's a real woman doing the reading, who will add the extra things herself. As I said, it's a very subconscious thing - you won't notice obviously that something is wrong, but you might not (for example) be persuaded of something by someone who's using a mismatched set of gender signals, where you would have been if they'd been using the matched ones. From: someone As far as I'm concerned on the internet Men are Men, Women are Men, and Children are FBI agents in disguise. Nothing is real, and there's no reason to believe otherwise. Still, some people seem to be silly enough to think, "Hurr! If it has tits ingame it's a chick! Hurrrrr!" There are actually quite a lot of real women on SL. Maybe not the majority (as some people have occasionally claimed) but they are definately out there. 
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Lancer Bardach
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05-09-2008 08:05
From: Yumi Murakami People don't really have a social response to characters in books The entire Harry Potter Fandom, along with their legions of fans for characters in the syllabus, would like to disagree with you. Your statement is now rendered null and void.
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Sling Trebuchet
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05-09-2008 08:14
From: Lancer Bardach I wonder how many horny SL studs would continue to hit on the escorts and other assorted sluts if they could see the fat 50-something hairy naked chappie typing away on a semen-stained keyboard on the other side.
edit: dear jaysus what have i done to the top of the page Last time I posted the image from the RL tab of my Profile, I was accused of thread derailing. I'm safe this time. 
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3Ring Binder
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05-09-2008 08:14
an oldie, but a goodie Sling. 
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Wolfgang Balogh
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05-09-2008 08:15
From: Lancer Bardach The entire Harry Potter Fandom, along with their legions of fans for characters in the syllabus, would like to disagree with you.
And the whole of the Gorean community. Wolfgang
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Conifer Dada
Hiya m'dooks!
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05-09-2008 08:16
Interestingly, when I've been looking at profiles recently, it seems almost as many male avatars as female ones have RL sections saying things like 'SL and RL are separate', or 'Don't ask' etc. Anyway, I can't see RL ID is a big deal, especially as it might be fake. I talk to people about what I see and do in SL, mainly, I'm rooted on it! That's what SL is to me.
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Johan Durant
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05-09-2008 08:18
From: Scout Schwager I figure if they want to chat endlessly and include rl stuff, they probably are a real girl.
If they want sex right away, prob a guy.
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Lancer Bardach
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05-09-2008 08:19
From: Conifer Dada Interestingly, when I've been looking at profiles recently, it seems almost as many male avatars as female ones have RL sections saying things like 'SL and RL are separate', or 'Don't ask' etc. That's because they are actually hairy men with small penises.
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Conifer Dada
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05-09-2008 08:21
From: someone That's because they are actually hairy men with small penises. I've never seen any guys like that in SL!!!!
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Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
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05-09-2008 08:24
From: Lancer Bardach The entire Harry Potter Fandom, along with their legions of fans for characters in the syllabus, would like to disagree with you. Your statement is now rendered null and void. Um. You're saying people are thinking they've been persauded of things, or decided whether to spend the evening with, or recieved diplomacy from.. Harry Potter? And Harry Potter actually did those things rather than the same people making up what he would do (which can always appear to have an emotional effect, because it's a feedback loop)?
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Lexxi Gynoid
#'s 86000, 97800
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05-09-2008 08:24
From: Conifer Dada Wait till you bump into 3 people, say a man, a woman and a wolf, and as you get chatting to them you start to wonder if they are all being played by one RL. The clue to watch for is if none of them ever type at the same time! I have three avatars. I haven't used two of them in months, but I did have all three on at the same time once (my that was a strain, and I can barely get on now with one avatar). The point? I had accidently left one avatar "typing" while I went to one of the other screens. When I saw that I started all of them typing. hehe. I was talking with myself, and all typing at the same time.  Granted, it looked like it took me forever to write, but it does take some people forever to write "Hello, mak sex now?" Sometimes it looks like 10 minutes have passed and they have just written something short like that when everything stops and words appear.
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Lancer Bardach
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05-09-2008 08:29
From: Yumi Murakami Um. You're saying people are thinking they've been persauded of things, or decided whether to spend the evening with, or recieved diplomacy from.. Harry Potter? And Harry Potter actually did those things rather than the same people making up what he would do (which can always appear to have an emotional effect, because it's a feedback loop)? I'm sure thousands of people would if they could. Furthermore, JK Rowling is female, and she does male voices excellently in her books. I don't know what you're trying to say here, but it sounds like you're grasping at straws. There is no way to discern a person's gender through a text based or virtual medium, unfortunately. Besides, I don't know why people get so out of sorts about people playing their opposite gender on the Internet. After all, it's been done for literally a millennia in the real world, and continues to be done...with very convincing results too.
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Lexxi Gynoid
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05-09-2008 08:30
From: Conifer Dada I've never seen any guys like that in SL!!!! I have, in the CARP sim. Guy runs around with a title saying he has a tiny one. I've never actually attempted to see it, though.
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