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Sex Beds Banned in PG land

DanielRavenNest Noe
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06-04-2009 15:44
From: Amity Slade


What I was criticizing was that Blondin had to ask if people used/sold sex beds on PG land currently.



Which I was able to determine in about a minute using the software set to PG content:

I used the 1.23RC software, Search/All, with only the PG maturity checkbox turned on.

For the word "sexbed" there are 2160 results.
For the word "animations" there are 9170 results
For "adult animations" there are 1880 results

All of those results are for PG land, and include places specifically set to show in search. The first few results are furniture stores.
Milla Janick
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06-04-2009 15:54
From: LittleMe Jewell
1) I actually know a few people that rent or own on PG land and never ever considered what happened in the privacy of their bedroom to be a violation of the PG rating.

2) So in our new PG Disneyland world, parents are no longer allowed, in the privacy of their own bedroom, to do the very activity that created their children? Hmm, so the parents in SL Families have to now have 2 homes -- one where they live with their kids and one where they can make more kids.

This goes more overboard every day.

It has been this way for a long time. Why did those people think there was a distinction between PG and Mature in the first place?

They can have one home, but it should probably be in a Mature region.
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06-04-2009 16:03
From: Viciously Llewellyn
If it doesn't matter how it came about, why did you "This" to someone that insinuated that if was caused by PG landholders?


i didn't mean it as just the PG owners because not all were..there were plenty of mature sim owners in those past threads also and groups in sl to clean up sl..
all the people wanting this,that had the thinking they were much more a respectful type of people than say someone running a strip club or free sex club or bdsm sim or something they looked down at as unclean or needed to be cleaned up in SL..
they got what they were wanting..it's out of their hair now.. ;)

you said something about not having evidence that it was them that made this come about..i mainly said it doesn't matter how it came about they got what they asked for more or less anyways..and then some..their doing or not they got what they wanted..

PG sims were always PG sims and always free of sex things..or suposed to be..so i really don't see what major change there is there anyways..

you'll have a few witch hunts and some will get AR'd then people will get bored and it will be like it was before in pg ..no loss there really lol
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06-04-2009 16:38
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
I, for one, am asking for a complete eradication of PG sims and PG sim rules. Parcel owners get to make their own rules anyway. All I wanna do is casually wear a sheer shirt or some cute pasties once in a while. =^-^=


I am with you on this..my thinking is why are they using movie rating system anyways..
and it is a movie rating that is copy written and not supposed to be used for anything but movie ratings..

to me PG makes it sound like we are protecting things from children and there are not supposed to be any here..

the problem comes from people doing random tping around and cannot take a little shock when they land in the cartoon land of sex or whatever it is that offends them..If people bucked up and took a little shock and realized what SL was about we wouldn't be in this mess of being so separated..

so we end up with movements to clean up something that they will never go back to..

oh we must get this out of here because i want my sl cleaner than this..

or little billy found a game on the internets because mommy and daddy use the computer as a babysitter....and little billy learned how to lie lol....

omg martha come quick billy is having sex on this thing called second life on the computer!!!!
we must get on the phone with our state rep and put an end to this maddess..
Martha ..who can we blame but ourselves?
lets blame the people that made this world thing.. otherwise we will look like rotten parents..

all the do gooders and blame tossers are the reason we are losing our freedom to roam around sl without fear of an AR for a skirt above our knees and a little sheer here and there...

there is no more our world our imagination..it's thier world and our check list.. making sure we are properly dressed when we tp incase we land in a zone that doesn't fit in with the new SL..

really they just need to put a warning right at the login..this world contains some adult content..if you think you may be offended then this may not be the world for you..

big red fat letters so it can't be missed :eek: my eyes!!! :cool:
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06-04-2009 16:42
From: Milla Janick
It has been this way for a long time. Why did those people think there was a distinction between PG and Mature in the first place?

They can have one home, but it should probably be in a Mature region.
I don't think, in all my time in SL, I ever really thought that the PG/Mature distinction applied to what happened in your house -- and I am sure a lot of the SL residents think the same way. It is not really spelled out in EXPLICIT detail - hell, LL cannot really manage to spell out very much in an explicit manner.

And if I was ever to have an SL family, I would come closer to assuming that the kids probably should not be living in a Mature sim.



I do now know how it is suppose to be, but that is not how I always thought it was.
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06-04-2009 16:54
i used to always freak a little when GOL's sim crashed when i was dancing..and they crashed a lot lol silly DJ's packing the sim lol

omg don't land me on a PG sim OMG! please be our estate..

i always made sure i was covered well in PG sims..and if i wasn't i tp'd out right away till i changed into something i felt more fitting for disneyland lol

i think the only thing we are going to see is a few AR's from people looking to find people breaking an older rule.. they are not going to have a task force going around looking for this stuff..
i wouldn't think..
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06-04-2009 18:40
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
No changes. PG is as it has been for as long as I can remember. (^_^)y


In 2004 I talked to a linden and asked about various animations on PG land. Sex animations have NEVER been allowable on PG. In the current policy the definition of PG really HAS NOT CHANGED. SO yep you are right. ;)
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06-04-2009 19:55
From: LittleMe Jewell
2) So in our new PG Disneyland world, parents are no longer allowed, in the privacy of their own bedroom, to do the very activity that created their children? Hmm, so the parents in SL Families have to now have 2 homes -- one where they live with their kids and one where they can make more kids.


My home plots always been on Mature land. I'm not barred from Mature or even Adult land. I cannot partake of adult activities. There are some other fiddly proximity rules which might prevent my SL parents from having "tie me up" stuff our in my play yard too, but that's jes common sense.

From: Darkness Anubis
In 2004 I talked to a linden and asked about various animations on PG land. Sex animations have NEVER been allowable on PG. In the current policy the definition of PG really HAS NOT CHANGED. SO yep you are right. ;)


yup. It was how it was explained to me a long, long time ago. It's part of why Mature land has always been more valuable than PG.
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06-04-2009 20:21
The earliest copy of CS that I can get the wayback machine to cough up is from April 2004. It might be useful for seeing what has or hasn't really changed.

http://web.archive.org/web/20040414160356/http://secondlife.com/corporate/community.php
Robot Foxley
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06-04-2009 21:22
I have a skin that has fig leaves which cover the "goods" in the front and the "badonk" in the back. I was wearing it (and only it) when I teleported into a sim I used to hang out in which is rated PG. I was looking around when suddenly...

I was approached by this man who said, "excuse me sir, but you are in a PG sim, and my daughter is here" "leave now or I will report you!"

I left to avoid a conflict.

Was I in the wrong?
Ian Nider
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06-04-2009 21:59
From: Robot Foxley
I have a skin that has fig leaves which cover the "goods" in the front and the "badonk" in the back. I was wearing it (and only it) when I teleported into a sim I used to hang out in which is rated PG. I was looking around when suddenly...

I was approached by this man who said, "excuse me sir, but you are in a PG sim, and my daughter is here" "leave now or I will report you!"

I left to avoid a conflict.

Was I in the wrong?


Technically I think no your not in the wrong, but this is what I think people that don't want the adult changes of are leery of. I'd have left too cuz of the chance of AR.

PS, what's he doing bring a kid onto SL anyway?
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06-04-2009 22:11
From: Viktoria Dovgal
The earliest copy of CS that I can get the wayback machine to cough up is from April 2004. It might be useful for seeing what has or hasn't really changed.

http://web.archive.org/web/20040414160356/http://secondlife.com/corporate/community.php


Which states...

From: April 2004 CS
PG - A "PG" next to the region name in the upper right hand corner of your screen, or in parentheses next to the region name on your map, indicates that you are in a PG region. No use of intense strong language or expletives in chat/IM. No nudity/sexual content in textures or sounds. No content depicting sex, strong violence, or anything else broadly offensive. No open soliciting of chat sex or avatar nudity.


Things I note:

"Broadly Offensive" (I thought that term was only about 2 years old!)

Language (Worth noting that, yes, PG sims have always been "Disney";)

"No content depicting sex"

So, um... ya. It would seem that sex beds were "banned from PG land" a really long time ago.
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06-04-2009 22:20
From: Viktoria Dovgal
The earliest copy of CS that I can get the wayback machine to cough up is from April 2004. It might be useful for seeing what has or hasn't really changed.

http://web.archive.org/web/20040414160356/http://secondlife.com/corporate/community.php


The explanation of mature areas is a lot more consistant, in the old cs, with what I would like. The new standards are very much lacking in detail (in regards to mature)in my opinion.
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06-05-2009 02:48
I thought it was always the case that only PG things can happen on PG land. Even in private homes.

I've seen people claim that up in the sky anything goes but I never saw a linden say so.
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Robot Foxley
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06-05-2009 03:10
From: Ian Nider
PS, what's he doing bring a kid onto SL anyway?


I think he was just role playing. I saw his preggo wife avatar nearby.
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06-05-2009 03:20
From: Robot Foxley
I think he was just role playing. I saw his preggo wife avatar nearby.


A child avi who is actually an adult in r/p isn't a reason for you to leave. You weren't even nude, I think, but someone correct me if I am mistaken, that nudity is ok anywhere as are child avi's if it isn't sexual.

Here come the AR's.
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06-05-2009 03:24
From: Kelderek Kilda
LL keeps tigtening the definitions of "adult", soon you can't even sneeze in a PG region without being abuse reported.

There is actually one good thing with that: Since everything will be "Adult" eventually, everything PG will disappear and all of SL will be "Adult"...

Just like in the real world, where everything is "Adult" already ;-)

we can only hope so and the teen can stay at the HIP but they there already lol
but really if they dring the teens in to SL where they go then if everybody make there sim a M ? and i hope they do becuz that lock them out * the kids*
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06-05-2009 03:51
From: Robot Foxley
I think he was just role playing. I saw his preggo wife avatar nearby.

That was his daughter..
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06-05-2009 04:01
From: madman626 Fall
we can only hope so and the teen can stay at the HIP but they there already lol
but really if they dring the teens in to SL where they go then if everybody make there sim a M ? and i hope they do becuz that lock them out * the kids*

I couldn't care less..TEEN Stay In The TEEN Grid-GRRRRRRRRR
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06-05-2009 05:22
From: Robot Foxley
I have a skin that has fig leaves which cover the "goods" in the front and the "badonk" in the back. I was wearing it (and only it) when I teleported into a sim I used to hang out in which is rated PG. I was looking around when suddenly...

I was approached by this man who said, "excuse me sir, but you are in a PG sim, and my daughter is here" "leave now or I will report you!"

I left to avoid a conflict.

Was I in the wrong?
Help >> Report Abuse >> Underage user on main grid. (^_^)

In the comments field I would say "This user is sharing a common computer and allowing a child to access SL." Then stick around for the *poof*.... But, I'm ebil that way. =^-^=

In my point of view, you covered your naughtybits©®™ well enough to have no problem with LL's (PG) rules... The only thing left would be parcel owner rules. But, if you aren't made aware of them, there ain't much you can do. (^_^)y

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06-05-2009 05:26
From: madman626 Fall
we can only hope so and the teen can stay at the HIP but they there already lol
but really if they dring the teens in to SL where they go then if everybody make there sim a M ? and i hope they do becuz that lock them out * the kids*


This is why I recently purchased a pg parcel and put up a second mainstore on pg land.
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06-05-2009 05:53
From: DanielRavenNest Noe

So any of you that have private homes on PG land with sex furniture or poseballs are in violation of the new ratings.


This is not a new policy. It's always been like that. They just never enforced it.

The only thing that has apparently changed is that now you need to move to PG to make your non-mature ads show in PG-only search.
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06-05-2009 07:21
From: Robot Foxley
I have a skin that has fig leaves which cover the "goods" in the front and the "badonk" in the back. I was wearing it (and only it) when I teleported into a sim I used to hang out in which is rated PG. I was looking around when suddenly...

I was approached by this man who said, "excuse me sir, but you are in a PG sim, and my daughter is here" "leave now or I will report you!"

I left to avoid a conflict.

Was I in the wrong?
No, you were right to leave to avoid conflict.

Was he wrong? Well, he was rude; he could have asked politely rather than threatening.

Was your appearance inappropriate? My take is you shouldn't do anything in public in a PG sim that would be inappropriate in public in RL. Naked with fig leaves is clearly pushing the boundaries. You certainly wouldn't see that in church, but you might at a festival in LA or Central Park. I consider SL to be more like LA and Central Park, but that's just my opinion. And, well, I'm a pervert.
Lear Cale
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06-05-2009 07:29
From: Ian Nider
What I don't get is that the sex pose balls are very cartoonish, they aren't really porn at all. I can't see they would get people off like porn might.

I mean if people were showing xxx porn all over SL then maybe there'd be a validity to all this whoo haa.
I'm guessing that you wouldn't consider phone sex porn either.

What's the most significant sex organ? The brain. The best erotic zone? The imagination.

Lots of people find interactive sexual play with other people more erotic than looking at pictures or movies.

There's nothing wrong with your not being stimulated by sex poseballs. But everyone isn't wired the same way that you are.
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06-05-2009 07:37
From: Arcady Yue
(I wanted to say, once you get open minded its hard to get so close minded, but I know a number of ex-hippy types who now live on the conservative right - which makes me have doubt about them ever having actually been liberal, but that might also be my own limited worldview failing to understand them.)
You're making a big mistake equating liberal with open minded and conservative with close minded. I know plenty of terribly close minded people on both sides of the fence.

Perhaps those ex-hippies who now worship George Bush were open-minded enough to actually change their opinions! (Nahhh, never mind. That's just too crazy!)

In any case, few people are as open-minded as they think they are, including people who aren't easily offended.
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