this is all prep for when they merge us with the teen grid. i suspect banlines for age verification will be the norm as well.
To be frankly honest... I'm sick of this rumor. (=_=)y
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
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06-04-2009 07:43
this is all prep for when they merge us with the teen grid. i suspect banlines for age verification will be the norm as well. To be frankly honest... I'm sick of this rumor. (=_=)y _____________________
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Ricky Shaftoe
Owner, "Rickymations"
Join date: 27 May 2005
Posts: 366
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06-04-2009 07:46
As I understand it, you'll have to move your store to Adult land. However, your customers will be able to use your sex animation products in the privacy of their homes in Mature land, but not PG land. By my understanding, which might be wrong, if you sell furniture and some of it happens to have sex animations, that's permitted on Mature land. But if the primary focus of the products is of a sexual nature (as most of your current shop is), it has to be on Adult land. Thanks, Lear. Actually, the majority of my products are not of a sexual nature, but a substantial minority consists of sexballs and the like. Maybe 30% or so? Should I split my shop in two? One Mature shop (dances, model poses, cuddles, kisses) and one Adult one (sex balls, sex beds)? Will anyone want to go to the Adult continent to buy non-Adult stuff like dances? |
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3Ring Binder
always smile
Join date: 8 Mar 2007
Posts: 15,028
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06-04-2009 07:55
Blog or it didn't happen. (=_=) To be frankly honest... I'm sick of this rumor. (=_=)y why do you say it is strictly a rumor? _____________________
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sable Valentine
AU United
Join date: 30 Apr 2006
Posts: 1,275
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06-04-2009 07:56
ABSOLUTELY! It is and has always been. Sex, obscene language, nudity, and violence are all things NOT allowed in PG sims. Never have been. Just enforced strictly by AR. AR or it didn't happen. (^_^) This is a case of "You're only in trouble if you're caught". Think of all the nasty things you see in (PG) welcome areas. They're all TOS/CS violations. But nothing will happen until they're ARed. That's how it works. That's what it's there for. (=_=) You CAN theoretically have a mass-ageplay-orgy in the middle of a (PG) welcome area if nobody cares enough to send an AR. But, the moment that AR comes around, don't expect your account to last long. =^-^= Truly... I often go up to double that until I see those silly cars with blue lights on them. =^-^= Thanks for you answer, I will just set my sim for mature and that should take care of that. ![]() _____________________
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
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06-04-2009 07:57
Thanks, Lear. Actually, the majority of my products are not of a sexual nature, but a substantial minority consists of sexballs and the like. Maybe 30% or so? Should I split my shop in two? One Mature shop (dances, model poses, cuddles, kisses) and one Adult one (sex balls, sex beds)? Will anyone want to go to the Adult continent to buy non-Adult stuff like dances? I ~HAVE~ TP'd away from stores in (PG) sims simply because of that fact and the possibility that I may have been underdressed for the location. I have NEVER done that for a (Mature) store. (Mature) and (Adult) stores are more likely to get ~my~ monies, regardless of what they sell. (^_^) Even if I'm not after teh sexx0rz, I prefer my virtual life unfettered. (=_=) _____________________
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Isablan Neva
Mystic
Join date: 27 Nov 2004
Posts: 2,907
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06-04-2009 07:58
Does anyone out there actually have a home with "adult" furniture on PG land?
It was possible in the past, as long as you kept it in the sky or seriously hard to get to, but most people who have land for playing house tend to buy Mature for this very reason. I'd be very surprised if this affected more than a handful of people. _____________________
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
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06-04-2009 07:58
why do you say it is strictly a rumor? _____________________
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
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06-04-2009 07:59
Does anyone out there actually have a home with "adult" furniture on PG land? It was possible in the past, as long as you kept it in the sky or seriously hard to get to, but most people who have land for playing house tend to buy Mature for this very reason. I'd be very surprised if this affected more than a handful of people. _____________________
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Lear Cale
wordy bugger
Join date: 22 Aug 2007
Posts: 3,569
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06-04-2009 08:00
Thanks, Lear. Actually, the majority of my products are not of a sexual nature, but a substantial minority consists of sexballs and the like. Maybe 30% or so? Should I split my shop in two? One Mature shop (dances, model poses, cuddles, kisses) and one Adult one (sex balls, sex beds)? Will anyone want to go to the Adult continent to buy non-Adult stuff like dances? If profit were my principal motive, that's probably what I'd do, with teleporters between the shops, and a clear explanation of the entry requirements (for newbs) by the TP from the PG shop. I'm here for fun; profit is a by-product and kind of a way of keeping score, and I can't be bothered to have two shops even if I did start selling PG stuff. (Which I do actually plan to do; folks will just have to meet the criteria to get it, or else buy it on XStreet.) |
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Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
Posts: 6,860
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06-04-2009 08:17
Gee Milla, wanna join my Morality Vigilantes club? We have LOTS of fun perv camming and then ARing. In practice, lots and lots of people will do adult things in private in PG land and nobody will ever know or care. But doing so puts you at risk to be AR'd, so it would be wise for those with homes on PG land to move, if they plan on much mature activity. And the extent to which SL's society relies on people "sliding under the rader" is upsetting. As for the people who are filing the ARs? Competitors, jealous newbies, that kind of thing. |
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Viciously Llewellyn
Not Really Vicious ;-)
Join date: 27 Sep 2007
Posts: 332
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06-04-2009 08:19
They've stated numerous times that the policy was a result of feedback from users who wanted a predictable PG experience. Whether or not those statements can be taken at face value or are a pack of lies is another issue. They said no such thing. They said is was the result of feedback from users that wanted a more predictable experience. You inserted PG and them made an assumption based on that. I happen to know two adult merchandise vendors and one sim owner that will be changing to adult, that all admit that they have been asking the Lindens for better controls for quite some time. Lindens listening to PG folks is almost the funniest joke ever told. I have a vampire "bite-em and bang-em" hangout right next to me on the PG sim I live on. I know a few of my neighbors have AR'd the place. They also have a couple of mega's push on to my land. I've been here well over a year and Lindens don't even answer the tickets of Premium users on things like that. |
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Desmond Shang
Guvnah of Caledon
Join date: 14 Mar 2005
Posts: 5,250
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06-04-2009 08:23
Time for my random yearly post stating how ridiculous it is to worry about any of this stuff.
I think as a society we all need to lighten up ~ pretty much all of western civilisation. Want an area without humping cartoons? Meh, just buy it and make up whatever byzantine ruleset you want for yourself. Even as a parent I can well imagine my kids' honest reaction to being exposed to anyone 'doing the naughty' in sl: open laughter at grown adults they would see as pathetic. Anyone who has been on a high school campus lately knows exactly what I'm talking about; kids deal with issues far more serious than this, daily. _____________________
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Ian Nider
Seeds
Join date: 20 Mar 2009
Posts: 1,011
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06-04-2009 08:30
Surely the PGers have a sex bed here and there too, lol. it's jut becoming nuts.
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
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06-04-2009 08:30
Time for my random yearly post stating how ridiculous it is to worry about any of this stuff. I think as a society we all need to lighten up ~ pretty much all of western civilisation. Want an area without humping cartoons? Meh, just buy it and make up whatever byzantine ruleset you want for yourself. Even as a parent I can well imagine my kids' honest reaction to being exposed to anyone 'doing the naughty' in sl: open laughter at grown adults they would see as pathetic. Anyone who has been on a high school campus lately knows exactly what I'm talking about; kids deal with issues far more serious than this, daily. ![]() =^-^= _____________________
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Lear Cale
wordy bugger
Join date: 22 Aug 2007
Posts: 3,569
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06-04-2009 08:48
But-but-but... What about the international campaign against masturbation? We all have a responsibility to save people from themselves and the bad! bad! bad! things they do. (>_< ![]() =^-^= |
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
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06-04-2009 08:54
I have some animations that can help you in this quest. You can play them to see examples of this wicked behavior, so you'll be able to recognize it in the field. _____________________
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
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06-04-2009 09:00
So any of you that have private homes on PG land with sex furniture or poseballs are in violation of the new ratings. Likewise any stores that sell such things on PG land are in violation. Um, wasn't that *always* the rule? That's why it's *called* PG land. Presumably why there is so little of it, too. _____________________
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Avalon Asturias
Registered User
Join date: 3 Dec 2005
Posts: 117
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06-04-2009 09:08
Ok....what I really want to know.....is where are these residents who are running around AR'ing people for having sexgen furniture in their PRIVATE homes.....and what the hell are they doing snooping around someone's private property!!?? Really....WHERE are these people that AR'ing the rest of us? (ok, excluding myself cause I don't have sex in SL any more.....some things I just really prefer IRL) It just all sounds so paranoid and ridiculous.....is there some kind of robed and hooded anti-adult clan running around in SL....burning sex furniture and putting big black X's over all adult body parts they see exposed? I wanna know....!!!? I believe that such a group does indeed exist. Having an alt who has been in the sl kid & family community for 3 years I have seen such activities happening on an alarming frequency. Both from within the sl kid&family community and also against it. Where do they hide? I have no idea. But they definitely do exist and waste a great deal of time promoting their agenda. 2 groups I have heard of are religious in nature ( I won't state here which groups those are or name the religion). We have another group attacking sl kids and their sl parents stating that by having a child avatar you are causing real life pedophiles (who access sl in world) to act out their impulses and thus causing real life kids to be raped and brutalized! The things people will beleive still continues to astound me. ![]() |
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Brenda Connolly
Un United Avatar
Join date: 10 Jan 2007
Posts: 25,000
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06-04-2009 09:13
I believe that such a group does indeed exist. Having an alt who has been in the sl kid & family community for 3 years I have seen such activities happening on an alarming frequency. Both from win in the sl kid&family community and also against it. Where do they hide? I have no idea. But they definitely do exist and waste a great deal of time promoting their agenda. 2 groups I have heard of are religious in nature ( I won't state here which groups those are or name the religion). We have another group attacking sl kids and their sl parents stating that by having a child avatar you are causing real life pedophiles (who access sl in world) to act out their impulses and thus causing real life kids to be raped and brutalized! The things people will be still continues to astound me. ![]() Those who were here may remember when "Broadly Offensive" became the SL buzzword, around the time Aristotle was trotted out. Robin talked about "building trust" while Daniel basically encouraged everyone to squeal on their neighbor when they saw Broadly Offensive material, Yet refuded to defing what Broadly Offensive was. Seems the wheel is coming round again. _____________________
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
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06-04-2009 09:17
Um, wasn't that *always* the rule? That's why it's *called* PG land. Presumably why there is so little of it, too. Bloody truth, though. (^_^)y _____________________
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Milla Janick
Empress Of The Universe
Join date: 2 Jan 2008
Posts: 3,075
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06-04-2009 09:19
They said no such thing. They said is was the result of feedback from users that wanted a more predictable experience. You inserted PG and them made an assumption based on that. I happen to know two adult merchandise vendors and one sim owner that will be changing to adult, that all admit that they have been asking the Lindens for better controls for quite some time. And what are the users they've referred to who they say tell them more predictable means not stumbling into adult content? I apologize for painting all PG landowners with the same brush. They aren't all responsible for it any more than all Adult vendors are because a couple apparently asked LL for controls they already have. I don't see why anyone on PG land would be upset by this if LL actually follows through and enforces their definition of PG land. You'll be getting the land you thought you were buying in the first place. _____________________
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Milla Alexandre
Milla Alexandre
Join date: 22 Jan 2007
Posts: 1,759
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06-04-2009 09:43
I believe that such a group does indeed exist. Having an alt who has been in the sl kid & family community for 3 years I have seen such activities happening on an alarming frequency. Both from within the sl kid&family community and also against it. Where do they hide? I have no idea. But they definitely do exist and waste a great deal of time promoting their agenda. 2 groups I have heard of are religious in nature ( I won't state here which groups those are or name the religion). We have another group attacking sl kids and their sl parents stating that by having a child avatar you are causing real life pedophiles (who access sl in world) to act out their impulses and thus causing real life kids to be raped and brutalized! The things people will beleive still continues to astound me. ![]() Figures...it's religious groups..... this is where I officially shut up cause I would definitely end up saying something that offends certain sensitivites. Suffice it to say I'm a Richard Dawkins fan. lol_____________________
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Arcady Yue
Sex Kitten
Join date: 19 May 2009
Posts: 160
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06-04-2009 09:47
Should I split my shop in two? One Mature shop (dances, model poses, cuddles, kisses) and one Adult one (sex balls, sex beds)? Will anyone want to go to the Adult continent to buy non-Adult stuff like dances? Make a deal with another merchant who is moving to adult land - share shop space wit each other. You get one counter in my shop and I get one counter in yours, and we each get 5% of the sales made from those other-merchant counters. I know I plan to open a shop on adult land, and once I do, looking for people open to this will be one of the first things I do. (I'll probably set up an open wall thingy listing almost anyone who asks in one of those things like you see at NCI, and then a second counter for vendors I grow fond of. Depending on how well it does.) |
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Amity Slade
Registered User
Join date: 14 Feb 2007
Posts: 2,183
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06-04-2009 09:58
Blondin Linden, in his office hours yesterday asked: "Are there people selling sex beds on PG sims?" How could Linden Lab possibly be making up these policies without doing any research as to how these policies affect the grid? So, in that 2% - 4% number of those affected by the changes, I guess they forgot to calculate sex beds into the research? |
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Arcady Yue
Sex Kitten
Join date: 19 May 2009
Posts: 160
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06-04-2009 10:05
Even as a parent I can well imagine my kids' honest reaction to being exposed to anyone 'doing the naughty' in sl: open laughter at grown adults they would see as pathetic. Anyone who has been on a high school campus lately knows exactly what I'm talking about; kids deal with issues far more serious than this, daily. Found my mother's copy of 'Joy of Sex', with detailed photos in case somebody got lost trying to figure out which socket the screw went in, when I was 5, and if I recall right my reaction was about as shocked and excited as if I'd found a manual on fixing a 76 Toyota car's air conditioner. It was sort of a 'ok... whatever...' What was more funny was sitting there at a table a few months later while she and one of her friends discussed their sex lives using code words and me realizing they were trying to hide it from me. Still wasn't shocking or titilating. More 'I... know... a... secret... nyah. nyah.' By the time I was 12, I discovered I knew more names ans descriptions for positions than she did, even though it would be another 9 years before trying any of them... ![]() |