Is Paying for Links in Profile Picks Cheating?

Wrong. I did not say that what you were saying is objectionable. The language you said it in was though. But it does not bother me that much, it just showed some emotion.

And again, you manage to avoid the answer to the on topic question: will the fact that some people buy picks, really have an effect to your ranking as a business? Did you try that? Did you optimize for search by following the knowledge Phil shared?

When you create an alt, you are asked to state if it's an extra account, and if it is, you're charged US$9.95. Unless there's been a really radical change that I don't know about. The fact that you can easily lie doesn't change the fact that the charge IS there.



No, a secret according to the dictionary is "any information that is kept from those other than a priveleged group". Note that it does not have to be successfully or perfectly kept, just kept. The ending of Harry Potter originally was a "secret" even when the book was on sale and anyone could have read it - it stopped being a secret when people started telling it TO EACH OTHER.

Too fucking bad.



This thread is not about *MY business*. It wouldn't be about *YOUR business* or *PHIL'S business* either except that you both insist in interjecting them into all these threads.

If I want to talk about *MY business* I will advertise it in the damn classifieds where it belongs.

We should petition LL to rename "Resident Answers" to "Resident Favors" then just to make sure that people know they should be happy if we throw them a hint at the answer instead of berating them for being lazy slobs who can't be bothered to find the answer for themselves .

Once again you just confirm the fact that the mentality of people who game anything is anything but community driven. The sole thing that seems to matter is how much can be leeched off the community and squeezed out of SL. "Contributing (back)" is a dirty word.

Yes, let's all stop sharing knowledge with the masses. We'll all march to the ivory tower and set fire to it because god forbid people might learn how to build things, it would take away an advantage from anyone that sells prim based items in-world.

We can blow up to the particle lab after that, stake mentors on HIP so they keep from educating newbies and finally tie up and gag Chosen Few and Jesse Barnett to name but two because they share far too much useful knowledge on the texture and scripting forum respectfully.

*applauds*



You are making statements you cannot back up in any way. How can you object to the fact you have to compete with people cheating search, if you are not even trying. How do you know that what they do even has any effect?

Furthermore, in this and other threads, my and Phil's behavior is called unethical. And that behavior is regarding the way we promote our business in search. So in a way, this discussion is about our businesses as well. Or should we simply not say we are running bots or paying for picks?

Exactly that, if you have knowledge, i'd keep it to yourself or people that are close to you in world......would not feed the people that have been so ungrateful and have attacked the pair of you persistently. Let them find the Holy Grail for themselves.....might mean they have to log into SL once in awhile. Mind you...you don't have to get up off the chair to do that!

I object to EVERYONE having to compete with those who are cheating the search. Any search gaming, Any business cheating, of any type.

Its a stand based on principles.

I would hold the same opinion if I did not have a business at all.



You and Phil keep bringing up your stores in these threads. They therefore become points of contention.

Clever bit of Advertising by the way - No such thing as bad publicity I guess - I am surprised neither of you has been suspended over it.

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I do not bring up my store, I do not complain that *I* am unable to compete. I have not said such in these threads. If you believe I have its then your own personal Bias talking, not me.

RENE brought up my business, not me. He shouldn't have. I had no idea that mall store was still open. Its been dealt with. I no longer do any business with him.

Nonsense. There is a great difference between the general questions asked here, and telling my competitors how to do business. What is next, should I make all my stuff freebies so the community can benefit?
You know very well Phil made a great contribution from which all of us could benefit. Is that anything but community driven?

And talking about the community, do you really think I would want to help that part of the community that again and again calls me immoral/unethical, and even tells I am selling inferior stuff? Time for a reality check. I rather choose myself who I help on this subject.


Nonsense again. I did teach people how to build or help them script. Phil helped you all in search optimization. But that you apparently choose to ignore. Nothing wrong with helping out each other, but there are some people I would not help out anymore, even if asked directly. And sure I am not going to teach them exactly how to compete with me. How stupid would that be.

Even if that advantage were legit means to optimise rankings, i certainly would never share it in this forum....especially not after all the abuse over the last few days. I have helped quite a few people in world to optimise their rankings, on a one on one basis ,who operate in other sectors....but they are people I would call friends. Sod the people in here..with just a few exceptions.

no- i was in the heart of that thread....and we did tests, what counts and what doesn't

That's true, but Colette *is* a troll because she twists, stirs and pokes at things with the intention of distrupting. That's what a troll is, and that's what Colette is. Even people who share her anti-bot opinions say it of her.

I agree with you on this part of the issue Marcel. You shouldn't have to give away any legitimate "secrets" you use to improve your ranking. Thats your prerogative.

My objections are in the gaming/cheating aspects only.

So you , Rene especially and a couple others are trolls too?

Not me, I never mentioned it. Neither did Phil. We say we have businesses, that's all. Hard to say you pay for picks if you do not have a store/mall/club.
We both do have it in our signature, just as many people have. So if they suspend us, they would have to suspend everyone with a store in their sig.

And as for the cheating: as long as you do not know whether the so called cheating does have any effect, you do not know if others have to compete against it. And to see if it does have effect, you would have to try it out I guess.

Phil are we holding a Forums popularity contest now?

No matter how many times you claim I am a troll - that doesn't make it so.

BWAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH!@!!!!!


OMG hillarious!!

Our first agreement

Now when looking back tot the topic of the thread: It still remains to be seen if picks paying is cheating. There are some people saying it is, there are some people saying it is not. I say it is not, as it is done all in the open, with signs.

Quote me where I said what business I have? Other then it is low prim furniture?

Later

I am still laughing too hard.

glad to make you laugh. If you find a posting where I advertised my business, I will see it tomorrow. Bedtime here.

Well' these forums have been an eductation for me over the last 5 days whilst
hammering it. It didn't take me long to agree with your deductions Phil.
What a friggin nightmare!

If i wanted to say what I truely thought.....i'd be banned!

"We" is the generic we. And have you taken a giant leap away from your senses? You think I'm going to teach forum people any more after learning the natures of some of them? I help individuals if I want to, but I'll never help the forum again. You knew that anyway.

Dead right. And I can't speak for Marcel, of course, but I'll never share anything here again, and I wish to hell that I'd never taught any of you about it in the past. But, again, you knew that already.

Marcel won't share anything that I helped him with, because I asked him not to, and neither will anyone else who I shared it with. They are not like you, Kitty - when someone asks them to keep something to themselves, they respect it.

Well i would say you're just someone's lap dog....but that's just my opinion taking into account the timing of your posts from thread to thread!

Every time you and Phil post, your business name is there - so every time you talk about your business people can see it. *HINT* Its right under your name on the left.

And your point is? What premium bot accounts?

Do you know which search we are discussing in this thread? It's the All search, and my bots have such a miniscule effect on it as to be virtually none at all. The bots are for the Places tab search.

By their very nature, search engines can never be capable of ranking by the quality of what found at the other end. Human edited directories are but generic search engines, never.

If people don't want to race, that's their choice. We had steroids earlier, and now it's compared to an arms race. Would you be kind enough to specify which type arms you mean please - nuclear, conventional, those with a hand at the end - which? In debates like this, it helps to be clear about these things.