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04-29-2009 10:26
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04-29-2009 10:27
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Damn, I forgot again. I constantly have to remind myself to throw personal ethics out the window and not actually accomplish anything.

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04-29-2009 10:28
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When I was in High School, just about every farm boy that drove a pickup had a gun rack with one or two rifles on the back window. Even when the truck was sitting in the school parking lot. No one thought anything about it.
In a lot of the farming and ranching areas, you will still see quite a few pickups with gun racks - though, not so much in school parking lots anymore due to all the school shootings over the last dozen years.

Outside of that, I think most guns are kept in the homes (except for the gang bangers). It is a very small percentage of folks that go thru the hassle of getting a Concealed Carry permit - I do have one.
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04-29-2009 10:29
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yes, but we are talking 'generally'. practical ramifications aside (unwanted police attention) is it legal to walk down the street with a rifle slung over your shoulder? do people not drive around with their guns proudly displayed in their rear window?


It depends on what State you live in. In New York and New Jersey, No. it is not allowed.
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04-29-2009 10:30
From: LittleMe Jewell
It is a very small percentage of folks that go thru the hassle of getting a Concealed Carry permit - I do have one.



And then there are us anarchists who don't ask for permission to protect ourselves. :)
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04-29-2009 10:31
yes, this is the america i remember.
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It depends, many states do respect the right of a citizen to openly carry a firearm. They also tend to have lower crime rates than more restrictive places. Legally, I could strap on a handgun and walk down the street where I live. Growing up it was very common to see 13 year old boys walking along the road carrying a shotgun or .22 rifle. Carrying in vehicles is quite common. But unless you are on your way to the range or to hunt, it is usually better to have the weapon out of plain sight, just so your window doesn't get busted in.
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04-29-2009 10:32
From: LittleMe Jewell
In a lot of the farming and ranching areas, you will still see quite a few pickups with gun racks - though, not so much in school parking lots anymore due to all the school shootings over the last dozen years.

Outside of that, I think most guns are kept in the homes (except for the gang bangers). It is a very small percentage of folks that go thru the hassle of getting a Concealed Carry permit - I do have one.


Do you have to show a cause or need for it, or just jump through hoops? Here you pretty much have to prove your life is in danger out there, or carry large some of money or other valuables, like a diamond merchant. Otherwise, it is virtually impossible to get a carry permit.
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04-29-2009 10:33
From: Nina Stepford
yes, this is the america i remember.


And you were probably safer walking down the street in one of these places were guns are common than you would be in Chicago, New York, or DC.
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04-29-2009 10:36
From: LittleMe Jewell
In a lot of the farming and ranching areas, you will still see quite a few pickups with gun racks - though, not so much in school parking lots anymore due to all the school shootings over the last dozen years.

Outside of that, I think most guns are kept in the homes (except for the gang bangers). It is a very small percentage of folks that go thru the hassle of getting a Concealed Carry permit - I do have one.


And in large cities, it would be highly suspicious to see someone carrying a gun. There is no reason to have one other than causing trouble. You sure aren't hunting for anything in Newark which I'm aware of, other than a crappy apartment :p
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04-29-2009 10:37
i saw this sort of thing in oregon and washington. the further you got from seattle or portland the more frequent it became. by the time you were 30 minutes out of town every other pickup had a proud display of weapons in the window. the highway signs were even riddled in bulletholes.
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And you were probably safer walking down the street in one of these places were guns are common than you would be in Chicago, New York, or DC.
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04-29-2009 10:42
newark... new york... new jersey... florida... i think its an east coast/west coast divide.
seattle and portland are not small towns, yet it wouldnt be very shocking to see some guy drive through with rifles hanging in his rear window.
they do this EVERYWHERE in idaho, and northern california isnt so different either.
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04-29-2009 10:49
From: Nina Stepford
newark... new york... new jersey... i think its an east coast/west coast divide.
seattle and portland are not small towns, yet it wouldnt be very shocking to see some guy drive through with rifles hanging in his rear window.
they do this EVERYWHERE in idaho, and northern california isnt so different either.


Yes, some Western States do tend to have more liberal gun laws, due in part to their setlement heritage. The Eastern States tend to be run by "Intellectuals and Academics" who while claiming to be Liberals, often seem to act the opposite.
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04-29-2009 10:50
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Do you have to show a cause or need for it, or just jump through hoops? Here you pretty much have to prove your life is in danger out there, or carry large some of money or other valuables, like a diamond merchant. Otherwise, it is virtually impossible to get a carry permit.
I've heard the same thing about Massachusetts, which is funny considering they were one of the original states to fight the Independence war and help draft the constitution that gives us the right to bear arms.

In CO, all you have to do is take an all-day (or a few nights) gun safety class - which involves passing an open book test at the end and popping a few bullets in to a piece of paper roughly 20 ft away -- and then fill out the application, pay a couple hundred bucks for the background check and the permit, wait about 60-90 days and you've got it. They pretty much cannot turn you down here unless something shows on your background check.
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04-29-2009 10:55
From: LittleMe Jewell
In a lot of the farming and ranching areas, you will still see quite a few pickups with gun racks - though, not so much in school parking lots anymore due to all the school shootings over the last dozen years.

Outside of that, I think most guns are kept in the homes (except for the gang bangers). It is a very small percentage of folks that go thru the hassle of getting a Concealed Carry permit - I do have one.



ummm.. hon, better leave that thing at home when you visit Vancouver. I don't want to have to bail you out of jail. (grins)
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04-29-2009 10:57
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Hey Z.. i would like to see it also.. want to go?


Yah, cool bro! We can do this.

So many cool places to see in SL.. I love it that ppl post their picts here.. reminds me that I need to get out more.

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04-29-2009 10:58
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ummm.. hon, better leave that thing at home when you visit Vancouver. I don't want to have to bail you out of jail. (grins)
Even though I have the permit, I have never actually used it. The only time I have ever had any of my guns out of the house (besides when heading to the range) was when I carried my handgun in the car during the Democratic National Convention and it is not illegal to carry in the car here without a permit.

Additionally, a concealed carry permit is only valid in the state that you get it in.
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04-29-2009 11:00
From: Nina Stepford
newark... new york... new jersey... florida... i think its an east coast/west coast divide.
seattle and portland are not small towns, yet it wouldnt be very shocking to see some guy drive through with rifles hanging in his rear window.
they do this EVERYWHERE in idaho, and northern california isnt so different either.


Being a Canadian, I was shocked when driving through Montana.. gun ads on the radio, gun ads on TV, gun racks in the pickup trucks.. Canucks aren't used to that.

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04-29-2009 11:00
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Even though I have the permit, I have never actually used it. The only time I have ever had any of my guns out of the house (besides when heading to the range) was when I carried my handgun in the car during the Democratic National Convention and it is not illegal to carry in the car here without a permit.

Additionally, a concealed carry permit is only valid in the state that you get it in.


Oh yes. Carrying any gun across State Lines is a serious No No. A Federal Offense.
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04-29-2009 11:01
From: LittleMe Jewell


Additionally, a concealed carry permit is only valid in the state that you get it in.



Not true, several states will honor Out of State carry permits. The best thing to do is research the laws before you travel. Making sure to stay out of IL and Mass.
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04-29-2009 11:02
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Even though I have the permit, I have never actually used it. The only time I have ever had any of my guns out of the house (besides when heading to the range) was when I carried my handgun in the car during the Democratic National Convention and it is not illegal to carry in the car here without a permit.

Additionally, a concealed carry permit is only valid in the state that you get it in.


Ahhh, I see, I didn't know that. :)
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04-29-2009 11:02
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Not true, several states will honor Out of State carry permits. The best thing to do is research the laws before you travel. Making sure to stay out of IL and Mass.


I'd say scant few, No?
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04-29-2009 11:03
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Not true, several states will honor Out of State carry permits. The best thing to do is research the laws before you travel. Making sure to stay out of IL and Mass.


ooo... waves... Hi Chris!!
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04-29-2009 11:03
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Being a Canadian, I was shocked when driving through Montana.. gun ads on the radio, gun ads on TV, gun racks in the pickup trucks.. Canucks aren't used to that.

Z

Montana is pretty much wide open. They've even done away with speed limits in a lot of places.
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04-29-2009 11:04
vancouver bc? i bet she could drive it over and not get caught!
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04-29-2009 11:07
wtf :confused:
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...I carried my handgun in the car during the Democratic National Convention...
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