just ignore and let this one die

Is there possibly anything worse than that dried milk and so many of the other foods in those damn government boxes we got each month?

When I got out of college, I refused to eat so many things for the first year because I was just so absolutely sick of them from growing up - with ground beef even being one of my boycott items for a while.

So what then? Stop helping people at all until the government gets around to (ha!) some reforms? Cross our fingers that their local communities will offer sufficient help in the meantime?

The *government* has consistently failed the average person, Ann. I know many are pinning their hopes on Obama to straighten out the mess left by 8 years of republican rule - the bad news is...it's just going to get worse. In fact, honestly, it doesn't matter WHO is in office...we're going down hard. We need LESS government, not more of it.

While not everyone SEES where the wealthy spend their money, believe me it does get spent because they

Which they have shown to be totally incapable of doing effectively. They don't encourage people to better themselves with a helping hand, they use class warfare and tell the have nots that the haves are evil and should not keep what they have earned, and 'WE" are your only hope. "WE" will take from them and give to you, just enough to keep you coming back to us. Meanwhile they run off with the bulk of the booty.

Except that as your income goes up, there are limits put on your itemized deductions. I lose many of the tax benefits of my deductions these days, but I still give anyway.

You are correct in that many people that could help simply do not. There are many greedy and selfish people, but we still need some better answers as the system we have now is not really working properly. I get so irate at the waste I see in government and the people I see fighting tooth and nail to get the help they should be able to get. There really are some in government that wish to truly help society and that is why they go into government, but the vast majority are either already corrupt or get corrupted by the system and then they are worthless at truly helping anymore.

I don't have the solution (other than maybe another revolution and start all over), but what we have created has turned into a horrid monster and I think it now causes more problems than it solves.

LOL...took me years to learn that not all cheese was bad, and I won't touch powdered milk to this day...even if we're camping

May I humbly suggest that this topic be moved to a different thread? The Never Ending Thread is supposed to be a haven, and this topic is a landmine already going off.

Anywhere else and it gets closed. At least we're playing nice about it, instead of being ugly like during the election

You seem to be under the misapprehension that I'm a fan of big government. I'm not. Logically though, they have the (potential) resources to reach people you and I can't.

I don't even know what the bit about accountants was supposed to mean.

I do hope we are all adult enough and friends enough to be able to have political discussions on differing sides and not resort to low down name calling- the Peace of the Thread must prevail.

Re:
It's true you hear that from some people and that is wrong too- I agree, not every one on welfare is a lazy ass but sadly some people will - as we know from SL and bots etc- "game the system". A long time ago, after my father died, I took my mom to the local welfare office where she had to report every so often for what ever thing it was- Medicaid I think, dont recall now- anyway, there was a woman there waiting her turn, covered in more gold then Mayor's Jewelers discussing where she wanted her welfare check sent while she went on vacation... and there was not a damn thing wrong you could see with her that she shdnt have been holding down at least a min wage job.

I find the idea of communism in its best definition- sharing and community- to be a Polyanna dream- it is not in our nature. We fight and claw and rend for every thing - we wear a lovely veneer of civilization, but the beast is but a scratch 'neath. And I want you to know, I am normally a very giving and non-competitive person.

Yes. It probably would be just as effective as the current wasteful system is. It's broken. And it doesn't matter which party is in power, they both are cut from the same cloth. The focus has to shift to local resources, at the state and city level instead of the Lumbering Federal Money Pit. Encourage more Private Charities, give people the choice of where their money is spent. Iam tired of seeing my property Taxes, Income Taxes, Social security Taxes and everything going up, and seeing absolutely nothing for it.

That's it!

Don't make me go all Bruce Lee on all of you!

Uhm.. does that take into account the neighborhoods with the 'foreigners' that seem to be swallowing up Europe as well?

That the wealthy do exactly what you suggested - they get the tax breaks by giving to charity. Do we care if they get a tax break, as long as they do the "right thing"?

And no, I'm still not convinced that our "government" has the resources. I do think that the various charities have the resources, and that's where I'd prefer my money go - not to the government, who will just pay $650 for a freaking screwdriver.

Yes, we are sometimes bad about that. We innocently comment on something and the next thing you know, many of us are on our social/political soap boxes.

So.... a funny:

You put up a box around me once, right? When I was at the hangout trying to hide my nakedness? If so, Mistress turned up at some point while you were there. If not then . . um . . heh

Ooh yummy pictures- OK - this looks like a good spot for some levity and mild nudity- more please- anyone?

eeps!! Emergency!!!!
(like i really need an excuse to start posting pictures lol)



EDIT: ok, waaay late as usual, keep forgetting to refresh lol

And a lol dog to go with it:

You are quoting my husband...

And did y'all hear? OJ got 15 years.

oh Lil, those are too, too cute!

I'm going to be putting this thread on ignore now.

*whimpers*

My contribution to light nudity:

And at *least* two families are cheering...