A Modest Proposal - Concerning "The Pornfield"

Am I the only one who remembered that "A Modest Proposal" was a satire by J. Swift about cannibalism of kids?

Hello! This post is in reference to all of the comments/posts about spelling/grammatical errors. When I lost my hearing, well into adulthood, I had already learned to speak. As my hearing loss progressed, over time, I've become an advocate for Deaf (Cultural), deaf, (hard of hearing) and late deafened people.

Mostly in culturally Deaf society, you find people who never learned to speak english as you, the listener, expect to hear it. These people think in American Sign language syntax, sentence structure, etc, which is, essentially, backwards to english sentence structure. Therefore, that is how they type, in that same structure. Being fluent in both english and american sign language, I am often called on, in SL, to interpret for some Deaf person who is somewhere trying desperately to make themselves understood, to an english speaker, who thinks they are either foreign, or stupid. I quickly make it clear that we are not stupid. One man on SL that I regularly 'terp' for, is a Gallaudet graduate with an engineering degree; however, he has never heard english the way a listener expects to receive it. American sign language is english, somewhat abbreviated, somewhat turned around as far as where nouns and verbs appear, etc, within the sentence.

I will admit that the frustration is huge for the Deaf person trying to communicate with someone who thinks he is an idiot. I will also say that, I am very glad, that I have not summarily dismissed someone who isn't speaking english on the level that I feel is up to my particular standards. I would have missed out on some very worthy friends, had I walked away. I am eloquent, you (the royal 'you', not you in particular) may not be. Luckily, I will not count that as criteria in deciding whether you are worth my while, or to discount your opinions, because your english is not as clearly understood as mine. Because, I am not walking in your shoes, nor do I know what devils may be beleaguering you as you walk your journey. Therefore, my only charge is to be kind, because everyone you meet, has just gone through something, or is going through something, or is about to go through something. I know this is long. Thanks if you read this far.

Oh, this is supposed to be about Porn. Ok, next post........ Just wanted to speak to this because this type of thing shows up on so many RA forum threads.

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Very well said!

I doubt even Pep holds non-native speakers to the same standards he expect of native speakers.

But, like it or not, in a textual medium, a person's perceptions are based on how one communicates with the written word.

Or how one communicates with creative, artistic pr0n. (just to mention the topic)

How do we promote goodness here and a world worthy of teh arts and offers accessible relationships taht are not scarred by labels or behaviours that attract the attention of serious journalists and demean ourselves as members of sl? What limits must we endure if we are to be regarded as a viable "Brave New World"?

I disagree with the basic premise that sl is not worthy of the arts. I am not so sure that the so called "Arts" are worthy of the the creativity that exists in sl. I still don't know who you think is worthy to decide what is acceptable and what isn't. You let the arts world decide and you will have more garbage in the name of art than now exists. If you let a government decide, well I don't know of any governments that I trust to decide what I can and can not see.

I would ask, why the obsession with the depiction of sexuality?

The most popular games today involve the depiction of horrid acts of violence against others. Blood, death, gore, dismemberment, taunting of victims, and celebrating over the broken and mangled bodies of the vanquished. Even the looting of the dead. I'm thinking of WoW, Halo, GTA, and other similar games.

And yet, society as a whole, turns a blind eye to engaging in that activity. It is entertainment.

But heaven forbid there be a bewbie! A man and woman in scanty chain armor with giant swords, knocking each other senseless? That is good clean fun (if you ignore the blood spatters flying). The crowds clamor for more! But let them engage in anything resembling intercourse and the creators will be pilloried.

That...dear readers...is the real commentary on modern popular culture.

Human sexuality is an embarrassing "dark underbelly". Human violence is celebrated.

I haz sadz every time I think of it.

Am I the only one who remembered that "A Modest Proposal" was a satire by J. Swift about cannibalism of kids?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal

...our world is little more than a clearing house for socially inadequate people who indulge in dark fantasies or sad relationships...

To me, sloppy presentation indicates a sloppy argument, and many times will skip over those posts in favor of others better written. Something to think about".

Do you disregard people who say "cool" instead of "splendid"?

If this were a job interview... okay. If this were an english class... I get it.

But this is a forum for computer game!!!

Do you disregard people who say "cool" instead of "splendid"?

QFT.


I don't take seriously people who don't appear to want to be taken seriously.

Pep (My son thinks you are at least ten years too old to be hip by the way)

What matters is that we understand what a person means, not how they choose to express themselves

I actually am enjoying this; can you possibly get more condescending? Hip? Lol! Sorry, Grandpa. I'm not a wrinkly yet.

I can't help your feelings of inadequacy. If you choose to revel in them then please feel free to continue with your "father figure" fantasy.

Pep (My son is 13, so "Grandpa" is way off the mark, and you *are* a wrinkly as far as he is concerned)

teh?
Classic troll language from last century, old hat call for attention, didn't bother reading past the first few lines, have better use of my time on earth
I can't type for s*it myself but at least I'm random about it.

You lack his intelligence. You lack his humanity. Your self-absorption is narcisstic.

It's true: If I were to pick a typo *not* to make, it would be "teh". The problem is that it just isn't perceived as a typo anymore, especially if it appears multiple times (or worse, every time).

Doesn't everybody use Firefox or Chrome or some browser that shows those dotted red underlines suggesting something may be amiss?

The core of the problem! Most of the quarrels on the forums are caused by people NOT understanding what another means, for all sorts of unchangeable reasons (age, culture, language etc) so augmenting that with "voluntary" complications, whether they are lexiphanic, lazy or attempts at individual differentiation, will inevitably lead to even more misunderstandings. A previous poster said they took time to prevent the meaning of their post from being sullied by errors of spelling and grammar or unclear presentation. Hear! Hear! (NOT "here here" by the way) I also violently agree with a previous poster that the way in which someone chooses to express an opinion or argument is an inextricable component of that opinion or argument, and I retain the right to believe that an apparently lazy presentation reflects the incoherence of the thinking processes underlying the content.

Pep (Jerry - Of course I give slack to non-native English speakers - as long as they identify themselves as such; not doing so is lazy too)