Bot Annihalation

Hypothetically speaking...say I was having a really pissy day, and I came across one of those traffic bot farms up in the air or underground somewhere...and I put on my karate chop orbitor, which can be used anywhere, and note that I did say all the bots were standing...and I sent out a resounding helllllooooo and none of the bots answered me cause well, they're bots and I started taking them out one by one....

What would be the odds that I would get AR'd?

I can't tell you what the odds are, but I will say that if I were the kind of jerk who would write a light client just to drive traffic bots, it might stand to reason I'd include a little routine in the program to automatically AR anyone who pushed one of my little mindless resource-wasting system-cheating drones. Also, who's to say the bots aren't programmed to return right back to where you pushed them from anyway? I'm not a programmer, but I'd imagine either of those things wouldn't be too hard to set up.

As much fun as it would be to blast the whole bunch of them, you're better off AR'ing them.

I would say about 100% chance. They are more able to detect and report said action.

On the other hand, a sim full of bots that you're encouraged to kill would be great fun!

/me gets to work in time for halloween

Hmmm...perhaps a remote nuke? But then where would the joy be of watching them all disintegrate?

so you wanna be a griefer. ok. duly noted.

Huh???

...are you sure? *cocks an eyebrow*

...they can't even respond to IMs since they tend to be "unmanned", and logged in en-masse

EDIT- The title of this thread should be the title of the best SL Action genre Machinima ever "filmed".

Be aware the grief alerts are built into the protocol. The bumps, pushes and hits window is the SL Viewer's way of relating that info.

On one hand, having campers physically standing, vulnerable, might be an indication that the person is just running many instances of SLeek or something, and doesn't know about the alerts.

On the other hand, running a honeypot of vulnerable avatars might be a clever way to help weed some griefers out of the population.

We found what we think was a bot in Hanja last night. We took turns kicking her to see how far she would go before she would spring right back to the place she was first standing. It was a scream. No user, no TPs, just a little 'group join' spam for a few. And seemingly perfect 3 minute return time. (^_^) One kick got her stuck in a sign with her head on backwards. (O_O)
http://sluniverse.com/pics/pic.aspx?id=262653&sort=Pictures.PictureID+desc&Name=Imnotgoing+Sideways

This morning, I found two more in Waterhead with the exact same avatar and group membership. I was too lazy and short on time to play again. (=_=)

100% if you tried it on mine.

Why would you want to do such a thing anyway? What business are they of yours?

Oh I just lurve it when bot-runners and other sundry low-lifes in SL play the libertarian 'I can do whatever I please so don't you mess with me' card. Personally I'd like to see all bots officially reduced to the level of NPC's and fair game for anyone who feels like going on a shoot-em-up spree.

*scratches chin* hmmm....because they suck the resources right out of sl, they're fake and they deserves to die! I'll be sure and go totally stealth on yours. ;o)

Low lifes are those who mind other people's business

Suck resources right out of SL? LMAO. You listen to too many people who don't know what they are talking about, but I don't mind educating you a little...

(1) Anything and everything uses resources.

(2) Bots use less resources that normal avs do. If you think it about it, they can't use much in the way of resources, or they'd defeat their very purpose. There needs to be plenty of resources for normal avs to come and use, or they'd be detrimental to the owner, and not beneficial. Resources example: I can put 20 bots in a sim that's running at the perfect 45 Sim FPS, and their presence won't change the Sim FPS. So what resources are you speaking of?

(3) Bots are acceptable according to the ToS. I have this in writing from LL, btw.

So I repeat the question - what business are they of yours?

Blood sport!

You're a nutter

Bullshit, to use a rude word.

A single bot may use less resources than a single "live" avatar. But who cares? They are resources that could otherwise be used by real people. And don't tell me about sim FPS. Go try moving around in a sim with sixty or seventy traffic bots crammed in a hole, and tell me they aren't harming the environment.

The misuse of bots is everybody's business. Yes, they're allowed by the TOS. Yes, there are some valid uses for them. Using them to drive up your traffic count, or using them as campers to suck money out of SL, are NOT (IMO) among them.

This is gonna blow over like a fart in church.... (O_O)

Oh well... back to the "Confession" thread. (<_< ... (^_^)

So a Sim FPS of 45 is irrelevant, huh? It doesn't matter if the sim is running at normal speed, huh?

So LL writing it down that traffic bots are acceptable doesn't matter to you, huh? Your opinion is much more valid, is it?

I'll tell you what. When you're in a sim that lags, leave it. But I should avoid using your ignorance to assume that bots are the cause, if I were you, and especially don't post such ignorance publically. You talk crap.

Question please... I understand the traffic drive thing- doesn't seem fair, but that's just me- but- what "good" purpose is served by bots?

I have seen "good" bots being used in clothing stores. 1 or two spinning wearing clothes on sale. Words in the profile saying "I am a bot." Have also seen three bots spinning in a shape store, also with that "I am a bot" sign in their profile.

Traffic bots that are used to game the search and traffic systems are NOT acceptable, and nowhere has LL said they are. You assume just because they are bots, like some of the other bots LL thinks are ok, that you'll get blanket protection under the 'bots are allowed' statement. Doesn't work that way if your little 'herd' eats up more resources than is reasonably expected for a single RL resident. Just ask the 'herdsmen' I've had shut down already despite LL's 'bots are ok' stance.
Soo.... I'm bored... where exactly is your little 'posse' then?

I'd be prepared to challenge any disciplinary action doled out against so called bot abuse.

To be prepared, one would need statements confirming that the community is against the use of bots to game the traffic system.

With this as evidence, the bot would be breaking community standards. That leaves the argument of the fact that the avatar is not a human controlled entity, it is in fact a bot.

Therefore it cannot be granted the same "rights" as a legitimate person controlling a single avatar, and thus cannot avail itself of the abuse system.

That would sorta be my argument anyway.

~Whisper.

I'm not assuming anything, Dana. You are misinformed. I have it written that traffic bots *are* acceptable. I didn't read it anywhere that's public, and I'm not misunderstanding anything. Have you seen it wrtten anywhere, by LL, that traffic bots are not acceptable? Or are you just making an assumption?

As long as bots don't prevent residents from entering a region, negatively impact the region in any other way, or cause distress or harassment to other residents, then they are acceptable. It's as simple as that.

If you've been successful in having some bots removed, then they must have had a bad effect on the region. Bots that are used well don't affect a region, and are perfecttly acceptable. Incidentally, a 'do gooder' sent me an IM out of the blue a couple of months ago. It said simply, "Reported for your bots". Guess what happened as a result of that

OMG you banned me Phil!? LMAO that is soooo hilarious!
I just wanted to see how legitimate your bot operation was....damn.