rumors going around about me

Thats so true. I dont have much love for top content creators. They either want to exploit your skills/popularity or they wanna tear you down spreading lies/insinuations behind your back. Fortunately, if you have any talent, you dont need these friendships anyway.

The first time i ever attempted business in sl, a top creator who is well loved made a point of telling everyone that one of my designs looked similiar to his. What he failed to point out is that we both used the same source material available to anyone and that i didnt even know about his item beforehand. I remember hand painting over that texture so i laughed it off. But thats the type of thing that makes reputations.

Later on this account i got caught with another creators source material from outside sl that i used on a t-shirt lol that was embarressing. Anyway! my point is people will alway find a reason to start rumours. Maybe you should be flattered that people pay so much attention to you. i guess that makes you kinda important huh.

Welcome Mrc!

As you can see from some of the replies here, being over 18 (or saying that you are) doesn't mean much as far as being cool with each other and being a jerk has nothing to do with when you were born.

I think you make a good point though that LL has yet to seriously address in a realistic way. There are and will continue to be people under 18 on the main grid. Age verification will not stop it. I also think that LL knows how to stop it, but chooses not to, for whatever reasons.

Allowing anyone and everyone to the main grid FOR FREE with as many alts as they want just invites griefers, underage teens, scam artists, thieves, etc. And LL knows, or should know this.

My two cents.

Lot of assumptions going on here.
The OP complains about rumors and being harrassed in the adult grid by people who didn't like him in the teen grid. Did everyone turn 18 at once? Doubtful. Are these people playing both grids? Methinks.

We're only hearing the OP's point of view. Surely, he's being harrassed by a**holes, but did he invite this through more than just giving away things and is now coming here with a cry of woe-is-me? Who knows.

If you want to concentrate on creating useful content, Mrc, make a new alt and start over. You did it once, you can do it again.
Consider putting your talents into scripts other than weapons and you may end up meeting nicer people. There are lots of other fun toys to play with and new ones being invented all the time.
I can give you a list of things that currently don't work right, or that I wish I had Like, can someone PLEASE stop my hands digging into my body every time I turn around????

It apparently doesn't affect his scripting.

Hello Brann,

Firstly I think that as someone who has come here asking for advice, we should take Mrc at face value.

Secondly, I'm not entirely sure what counts as "inviting" targeted and consistant harassment. Even if Mrc did do something to upset you, perhaps a single rebuttal might be in order but it certainly doesn't warrant anything more.

Thirdly, and perhaps most importantly, I don't really understand the view that Mrc should be forced to adopt a new persona and change his behaviour and interests as a result of what on face value appears to be bullying.

If you can't stand up for who you are and what you believe in SL, where can you?

Seriously Mrc, if I do a search for you in 6 months time and don't find you listed as founder and owner of your own successful business, I will track you down and give you some grief myself

Lanocaine. (Or, perhaps a batch of new anims in the AO?)

Yeah, this is possible, but is it worth the aggravation? Really, this is not normal SL we're talking about here, it's a tiny subset of the populace self-selected for maximum belligerence (feigned or otherwise--which hardly matters). One could try to reform that whole community by setting a noble example, or just be honorable in the face of it--and folks have done that. But if it's bothering the OP already--does he really need the extra angst?Good challenge! I'll extend it to a year, by which time there better be something besides armaments in that business's book of work.

My reply was directed tho those who mocked with him. You seem like a bright person with your excellent spelling so I'm kind of surprised you didnt get that.
And there is a huge difference between mocking and saying something nice like; "oh and can you please type a little better so we understand better and can help you out faster"
But yeah, I guess people thinks they're funny when its just bad and sad.



I totally agree It's important. Though there is never a legitimate reason to mock with someone's spelling if you dont know for 100% they're doing it on purpose.

Mrc; Hope you'll sort it out, I'll stop jacking your thread here now To those who cant take what I said; drop me an IM inworld instead. Maybe I have a great day and spells correct so I'll earn some respect in there...

Welcome to the main grid.. I am a bit surprised by some of the reception you received over you spelling, etc.. And while that is important, it should not have overridden proper responces to your problem..

The advice you have been given is sound.. I have a bit more specific advice for you along those lines..

1. Always do you sandbox work on a platform high in the sky. Even if on a friends land, this is the way to go.. Less lag, and you are out of sight of any passerby.
If you like contact me inworld and I will send you one of my nice 20x20 workdecks or work cubes. When I am doing building where I don't want people to see what I am working on I build in a 20x20 cube with a solid outer shell.

2. If you are going to do weapons testing you should have an alt or two anyway to test on.. Your alt can also do a lot of the work for you.. A little tip.. Create a couple of basic shapes and "shell" scripts with full perms.. Give them to your alt to build with copies of them. That way you still show as creator, but your alt can do all the work.

3. Do as much of your scripting and building as you can in a nice secluded place, and not at any place you are known to go.. Most of SL is deserted 90% of the time.. *laughs*

Yes the weapons "community" is a very hostile group.. As I found out when I created a weapon for my own use and received a bit of grief for a while over it.. Once they found out I was not going to sell it or give it away they calmed down. But your case will be different.. My best advice there is to build what you want, make it better than the rest, and sell it for less then your compitition.. If they are going to hate you anyway, might as well make some money.

A little unsolicited advice on your weapons.. Make them really good looking, lots of detail and careful texturing.. They should function well, but I will pay a lot more for something that looks great and works well, over something that works well but looks only so so. Recently I purchased a pair of pistols for some RP I have been doing.. I passed over a pair for $L200 that worked just fine, and bought a $L1600 pair because they looked so much better.. Perhaps being a woman I look at this differently, but for me appearance is very important.

Good luck, and again welcome to the Main Grid,

Lizz

1) It is capitalization in USA English
2) That reply by Chris still has me shaking my head though.



Welcome to the SL Forums and the adult grid. Sorry for your troubles.

im sorry, but many here who harped on Mrc spelling errors seem to think that in order to ask a simple question, they have to check with the spelling gods in RA.

you missed a very significant post of his stating that he takes anti depressants, which can and do, as Colette pointed out have adverse side effects.

i think its time some of you got off your collective high horses. this was a bit to far.

Mrc, Welcome to the Forums, yes we can be a bit picky, but my advice is to follow the advice of the ones who answered you. and Enjoy SL! take some time off to explore it!

I second the sentiment. Welcome indeed Mrc. I wish you success in anything you do. I wish to however point out that my initial reaction to reading the OP was exactly that which Chris expressed.

Multiple negative respon(s)es do little to reinforce the point, but Scripting is a language. Whilst English may not be Mrc's first language, it is one with which he is using. Misuse and misspelling will degrade the efficiency of communication in the same way as syntax error will stop a script from working.

Working in the Education Sector, it saddens me to think someone might be more efficient in a machine language than a literal one. Imagine a potential employer receiving a Curriculum Vitae that reads like the OP?

Sorry Mrc for my seeming negative here, doubly so if English is not your first language but some of those people defending misspelling are doing nobody any favours.

I hope you create a good reputation and I agree with standing by your original avatar. Creating an alt just because you are getting griefed is in a manner letting them win.

Oh, and has anyone else noticed it's Friday? Sorry if yes, but I've been off campus all morning

I think my main point is that you cannot immediately take someone at face value without knowing all sides of the story. Hence, assumptions are being made based on what is said, not on what might be the actual facts.
As such any advice or comments made for ANY post in ANY forum is likely to be less helpful or relevant than if all facts were known.

I was just wondering if Mrc was giving as good as he got in the teen grid. And if he really is just a victim, then re-creating himself is simply the fastest way out of the situation. He doesn't sound like he needs to try to make buddies of his tormentors.

capitalization is not a misspelling in USA English.

And it would be favor in USA English

Many different spellings within the English family.

And I would word that "but the people defending misspelling are not helping anyone or doing anyone any favor."

Ok, I cannot figure out how to put favor in that sentence. hehe

oh don't get me wrong, im not defending it, but some of the answers he got had nothing to do with his query, and were out of hand. also, no one here knows for sure if it was deliberate typos, or a result of a learning disorder, or if it is related to his meds.

Besides, Albert Einstein had a learning disability as well, and he was and is considered a genius.


Friday!!already!!!

I know everyone is mad at Chris,

But I'm sure the Original Poster's high school teachers said the same thing,

with red ink.

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I would think the comments about not taking meds every day would have stung worse. They would have in my case.

Its not easy admitting to the world you have depression and side affects from the meds.

I purposely left out anything to do with spelling. I don't agree with defending misspelling, but neither do i agree with shooting down a person who has asked a question without so much as a nod towards an answer or any help at all. All because someone has a problem with english and grammar. No, I would rather answer the question straight with no reference to spelling than give the OP a poke and walk off.

Hell, my spelling and grammar is cruddy at times. I wrote a whole post today in txt speak! lol.

PS I am not pointing the finger at anyone. everyone can be cruddy at times. i am sure everyone had reasons for whatever they said.

A High School is the correct forum for such feedback though. The "Intent versus Impact" of misplaced feedback is the issue.

If I walk into Tesco to buy my groceries and the checkout assistant says, "That will be £35.69 and by the way, that shirt does NOT go with those jeans and have you ever considered standing straighter? You look kind of ..... hunched" I would be very offended.

If however I was standing with Trinny and Suzannah on an episode of "What Not To Wear" the feedback would be welcomed (ish).

He asked for help in a text based environment. How he asked is germane to the question.

Hi Lexxi

Capitalization and other Americanisms were not in my remit. Just to grab a few from the OP, gonig, latly, peaple, armys and pruty but I don't wish to labour/labor the point. My own post needed editing for spelling. My chat and IMs are sometimes difficult to reread myself. One of our regulars here has as their signature something like"why is it only after hitting send, you see the typos" I could well use it myself.

As I said, I hadn't read the entire thread, had merely dipped in, looked around and departed. It seemed, not seamed, that Mrc had got a number of helpful responses so I just tried to defuse the tension here. We do so much love ripping each other apart, don't we? .. and please, that is not a personal attack on you! *hug*

Sorry Chris, but for someone who seems to be feel so superior on the basis of your spelling skills alone, I'd have thought you might spend a little time on grammar and perhaps even logic.

It's been my experience that if you find someone so unreasonably arrogant and supercilious about their spelling skills, they have very little else to be pleased with themselves about.

Just a thought....

no but if you walked in topless they would point to the "no shirt, no shoes, no service sign"

well I guess it would depend on your figure, but they definitely would in general.

Heh. Code requires dang near perfect punctuation for it to operate at all. So, we can infer than he is capable of using capitalization, space, and enter keys.

With that having been said… The odd spelling and grammatical errors don't bother me much. I wish I could do better myself. I guess I will just have to continue getting my on my good looks rather than my writing skills. (When you look this good, you don't have to know anything.) Heh.

As for suggestions concerning his problem - an alt seems to be the simplest and most practical of solutions.

One account you use for business and the other you use for social interaction. - Easy as eating pancakes.

I agree with that. I am always looking for good looking weapons..whether they are scripted or not (all my weapoms are used as props and combat is RP'd out). If you make nice looking weapons, I'd buy from you. And, if you were to do an open source free combat system, I would love to see it. I've always wondered how they work and would love to see the code for one just as a learning experience...I have no intention of creating a combat system. I only cobble together scripts to use in my own or friends stuff just so there will be some animation to a sword to make it look better.

As for the folks harassing you, AR them and mute them. I don't see why you should have to create an alt and start over again. The only reason you should need an alt is if you just feel like taking a break from your main, or to shoot at while testing your weapons.

Same here. You honestly want to know what I thought? "Oh, it's Chaos again." People have mentioned difficulties with the English language, and while I'm obviously no grammar queen, I do happen to know that many many written languages out there also use capital letters and punctuation. Some don't, it's true, but many do. For what it's worth, if you're a native English speaker and have graduated from a secondary school, you'd better be able to at least write a cohesive sentence.

[Edit: Another good reason for correct grammar/spelling/punctuation: It makes anyone trying to sell a product here in SL a little easier to communicate with. <- See, there I just ended a sentence with a preposition. I'm not claiming that perfection is the objective here, but basic communication is highly necessary in this medium.]