Folks Whose Posts or Thread - "you just HAVE to read"!
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Amaranthim Talon
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08-29-2009 10:56
From: Marcel Flatley Me too (own posts), so I can be sure at least someone does Anyway, among my favorites are Des, Jig and Pep, but many more of course. The latter two manage to annoy me at times as well (well Pep more then Jig  ) yet I do like to read them most of the times. Would starting a thread: Who do you hate to read be a good idea? On second thought... let's not get into that *grins*. Oh- I NEVER read YOU! 
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Qie Niangao
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08-29-2009 10:56
From: Nika Talaj This thread gives me a sad. I like the "welcome all" culture of SL's forums, and really loathe popularity contests. Everyone posts with the intent, perhaps the fervent hope, of being read. And as soon as I think a poster is one I can just skip over in future, I learn that's a mistake. This is a very special place, with a phenomenal mix of personalities and backgrounds and expertise. I "just HAVE to read" everybody because it's that "everybody" who makes it great.
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Morgaine Alter
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08-29-2009 11:01
I just know I try my best to skip certain train wrecks thats all
but I read threads not posters
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Bradley Bracken
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08-29-2009 11:11
From: Scylla Rhiadra I think that the idea was to make this thread a sort of light, feel-good thing, but the potential here for implicitly creating coteries and such makes the effect seem a bit high school to me, where "friendship" isn't just about exchanging bracelets, but also about exclusion.
Agreed
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LittleMe Jewell
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08-29-2009 11:25
From: Scylla Rhiadra In general, I agree with this sentiment, and similar ones expressed here by a few others. I think that the idea was to make this thread a sort of light, feel-good thing, but the potential here for implicitly creating coteries and such makes the effect seem a bit high school to me, where "friendship" isn't just about exchanging bracelets, but also about exclusion. Quite a few of the folks that I enjoy reading, I have never met inworld and have never IMd/PMd and therefore would not really call a 'friend', but simply a posting acquaintance. I think these days we have gone a bit too far into the "let's make sure that nobody every gets their feelings hurt" mode. IMO, well into the majority of the time that someone gets their feelings hurt, it is truly only because of the way they are seeing something (often due to a self-esteem issue) and really has nothing to do with the way the other person meant anything. It is not my job to always make sure that nobody misinterprets what I type and due to their own issues gets their feelings hurt from it. None of this is directed specifically at you -- you had just posted the topic in a way that clicked with me and made it easier for me to respond to.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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08-29-2009 12:05
From: Briana Dawson I read threads that interest me, the poster does not matter. From: Clarissa Lowell That's thirded. It's the topic.
This thread can only result in hurt feelings. From: Briana Dawson Yea really.
Might as well re-title: "Who are you favorite peeps" From: Peggy Paperdoll No particular poster. I read threads that pique my interest. No matter who starts the thread or posts in it. From: Nika Talaj This thread gives me a sad. I like the "welcome all" culture of SL's forums, and really loathe popularity contests. From: Qie Niangao Everyone posts with the intent, perhaps the fervent hope, of being read.
There will be some folks who will look at the list, hoping to see their name, and when they don't they will question themselves as to why they even bother to post if no one reads it or wants to read it. (it is human nature to feel that way, especially in a close knit place such as these forums, where so many folks have a forum history with one another, and well, yes it is a cliquish type atmosphere, and I have explained previously a long time ago what my definition of clique is and it is not a negative thing!) so anywho... I agree with the quotes above, and especially the first one. Heck there are some posters that I sometimes read, other times not, some I like, some I don't, but I don't read a post just because a specific person wrote it. I tend to skip past a lot of the bickering back and forth ones, been a part of that crap in the past and well, just hate to see it now. I ignore those I really do not want to see, so no worries of accidentally reading their post. I reply when I feel like replying and don't care or worry if anyone reads it or not. I would still post and reply even if everyone had me on ignore, because if nothing else, it gives me a place I can go back and reflect on my thoughts I had about something at that time, and see how much I change as time go by. (and yes I tend to ramble)
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Clarissa Lowell
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08-29-2009 12:22
Yep. People who post often and end up with not one mention in a lot of pages are bound to wonder why...I understand the intention but I am just predicting the effect.
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Derbor Torok
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08-29-2009 12:28
From: Nika Talaj This thread gives me a sad. I like the "welcome all" culture of SL's forums, and really loathe popularity contests.
SLU has a strong hero worship culture, and those who like stratified forum societies may find that appealing.
I read threads if:
1. They pose actual questions about SL, particularly threads from folks I've never seen before.
2. I think I may learn something.
3. They are started by folks in whom I'm interested, particularly "friends". . What Nika said.. this, is why I like her posts.. .d
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Amaranthim Talon
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08-29-2009 12:37
From: Qie Niangao This is a very special place, with a phenomenal mix of personalities and backgrounds and expertise. I "just HAVE to read" everybody because it's that "everybody" who makes it great. This! I love how we all add to each other- it's just some folks strike me as so damn interesting in how they see things- I do not read everthing- some thread titles are not my cuppa so i pass them over - i don't honestly expect everyone to read what current passing thought i had- it's one of the things i like about the Undying Thred- sort of a twitter right here.
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Treasure Ballinger
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08-29-2009 12:45
I choose what to read by the thread more than who's posting. If the topic interests me I will read it, especially if it's something going on with 'me too'. I also enjoy 2 particular posters who don't always really enjoy each other, but who, to me, are both really cool and interesting people, so I read them, and enjoy them both. I always read Des simply because he's so damn logical and calm and kind. His is the only actual name I will mention here, for reasons others have mentioned. I read a bunch more folks regularly because of their posting style. There's nobody here that I skip over, or never read.
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Ciaran Laval
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08-29-2009 13:14
The subject is more important to me than the person, I don't care who the poster is.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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08-29-2009 13:23
From: LittleMe Jewell I think these days we have gone a bit too far into the "let's make sure that nobody every gets their feelings hurt" mode. IMO, well into the majority of the time that someone gets their feelings hurt, it is truly only because of the way they are seeing something (often due to a self-esteem issue) and really has nothing to do with the way the other person meant anything. It is not my job to always make sure that nobody misinterprets what I type and due to their own issues gets their feelings hurt from it.
None of this is directed specifically at you -- you had just posted the topic in a way that clicked with me and made it easier for me to respond to. /me bursts into tears, and runs crying from the room ... I actually don't disagree. I'm less interested in "not hurting feelings" than I am in trying (and not always, of course, succeeding) to treat both people and their opinions with respect. And if not upsetting someone means having to avoid a particular subject entirely -- then I'd say we've really gone too far. But that, I take it, is the way most of us try to operate here: to be both forthright and respectful. And mostly, I think, we are pretty ok at it.
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Lota Lyon
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08-29-2009 13:35
From: Qie Niangao Everyone posts with the intent, perhaps the fervent hope, of being read.
And as soon as I think a poster is one I can just skip over in future, I learn that's a mistake.
This is a very special place, with a phenomenal mix of personalities and backgrounds and expertise. I "just HAVE to read" everybody because it's that "everybody" who makes it great. Why on earth would I hope that? No one pays any attention to me in RL so why would it be any different here?  Seriously though I love most of Argents posts and am fond of many other posters too but mainly its the topic that draws me like it does with many others. 
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Weston Graves
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08-29-2009 13:48
I read most of the threads, but I think the underlying question may be, "are there any posters you read first?" Yes, I tend to read the ones by the older residents (many already mentioned)-- not because I'm being cliquish, but because they've already asked and answered all the "how do I open this box" threads and have moved on to more interesting studies of human/avatar nature and how the virtual culture is developing.
Oh, I happily do my civic duty and answer the box questions too, if ten others haven't already. I had to ask them too and sometimes I still have those kinds of questions after 2 and half years.
I don't mind a little drama in a thread but I drop it when it becomes confrontational or destructive. Destruction is too easy. People should aspire to create instead.
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Mickey Vandeverre
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08-29-2009 14:14
From: LittleMe Jewell I think these days we have gone a bit too far into the "let's make sure that nobody every gets their feelings hurt" mode. IMO, well into the majority of the time that someone gets their feelings hurt, it is truly only because of the way they are seeing something (often due to a self-esteem issue) and really has nothing to do with the way the other person meant anything. It is not my job to always make sure that nobody misinterprets what I type and due to their own issues gets their feelings hurt from it. .
Exactly. There are a few people that I don't have to read or respond to....but would love to have a few cocktails with, and do face-to-face time with. Something at their core tells me that there is something more than what they can relay on a screen, or more than what they care to relay....more complexity...an entirely different story. They are the type of person who wouldn't view this thread as a popularity contest, and get their feelings hurt, because they have a strong soul....and are quite comfortable with themselves and their opinions, regardless of how they are read, whether they are even read or not, or regardless if anyone agrees. In fact, they probably chuckle to themselves and take delight in not having their name mentioned in this thread. That kind of person rocks one-on-one.
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Amaranthim Talon
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08-29-2009 14:16
As an aside, Scylla - I know you and I are so diametrically opposed in several things! You have this whole womans lib thing going on that i do not agree with - but i still enjoy reading you. Your posts are well thought out even if I do not agree with many points.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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08-29-2009 14:27
From: Amaranthim Talon As an aside, Scylla - I know you and I are so diametrically opposed in several things! You have this whole womans lib thing going on that i do not agree with - but i still enjoy reading you. Your posts are well thought out even if I do not agree with many points. /me grins One of the rather cool things for me has been to see my early impressions of people -- particularly some who nailed me very effectively early on -- change as I've gained a better sense of them over time. It'd be a really dull forum if everyone agreed.
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Clarissa Lowell
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08-29-2009 15:15
From: Weston Graves Destruction is too easy. People should aspire to create instead. 
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Clarissa Lowell
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08-29-2009 15:16
From: Mickey Vandeverre They are the type of person who wouldn't view this thread as a popularity contest, and get their feelings hurt, because they have a strong soul....and are quite comfortable with themselves and their opinions, regardless of how they are read, whether they are even read or not, or regardless if anyone agrees. In fact, they probably chuckle to themselves and take delight in not having their name mentioned in this thread. That kind of person rocks one-on-one. Wow, that was a slam. Passive aggressive, but still. It might hurt except that none of it is true. (nana nana) /me takes her weak soul and self doubt and insecurity and cowers in the corner of the browser. LOL
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Maggie McArdle
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08-29-2009 15:21
From: Nika Talaj This thread gives me a sad. I like the "welcome all" culture of SL's forums, and really loathe popularity contests.
SLU has a strong hero worship culture, and those who like stratified forum societies may find that appealing.
I read threads if:
1. They pose actual questions about SL, particularly threads from folks I've never seen before.
2. I think I may learn something.
3. They are started by folks in whom I'm interested, particularly "friends". . this^^^^ /me gives Clarissa a bowl of Autumn Treat Ice Cream
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Clarissa Lowell
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08-29-2009 15:27
From: Maggie McArdle /me gives Clarissa a bowl of Autumn Treat Ice Cream nom nom nom
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Annaleigh Hawksby
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08-29-2009 15:42
I generally pick threads based on the subject matter. A poster's name usually only matters for people I routinely skip.
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23rdDjin Negulesco
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08-29-2009 16:43
i'll have to admit that i will be leaving out the "whoms" (true, there is the possibility of it being misconstrued as a popularity contest or that they're my friends, or that i just want to get a pixel of ass. none of which applies to me, being one of those involved in this "social networking" world yet completely non-social ((a far cry from anti-social, however)). any forum poster on my friends list can attest to how little they hear from me, but i'm still happy to have them there for my rare occasions. my main reason for not singling out any individuals is quite simple: i would, invariably, leave someone out, and by "someone" i mean multiple people, and would feel the need to either edit and re-edit this post, or to keep popping up with yet another one or more people and reasons type post), but i will give a few words to the the "whys"... some posters i pay particular attention to because of their knowledge and experience. i've found my own grasp of things growing from what they take the time to share. there are so many aspects to Second Life, many of which i, myself, may not be inclined to partake, i still find interesting and there are people in the forums that let you have a taste of what they do. some posters i pay particular attention to because, yes, i do like them. their attitude, personality, interests, etc. the majority of which have no idea that i appreciate them. along with that, however, are quite a few where i have made a complete reversal in my initial assessment following a revelation of personality/belief factors which weren't immediately evident. then there are the train wrecks... the people the "ignore" feature was developed for, yet i can't seem to find myself able to use it. i can't seem to look away from people so willing to express their stupidity and ignorance (they are, at times, two separate things), their lack of wisdom/experience, or their inability to admit to any of the above, even when pointed out to them. repeatedly. so many times i have to wonder if they have any idea what those words they've strung together actually say. i can't leave out the trolls. the obvious ones, the subtle ones, the ones who proclaim that they are anything but, even the inadvertent ones. yes, i read those as well. it seems my attention is piqued by stupidity and sociopathic (sociopathetic?) behavior as much as it is by knowledge, information, and personality. but, do i read it all? every thread, every post? no. not unless LL is willing to pay me to do so, in which case they may as well give me moderator status as well and allow me to bring the wordwhip down. i don't even respond to all that i read, either the negative or the positive. some things just beg for a response while others deserve it, and, in many more places, a drive-by quipping is in order. so, in case you were wondering: i'm reading you, and you, and even you, though i loathe to... 
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Seven Okelli
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08-29-2009 17:00
(Thanks, Amaranthim! Big hugs!)
There is no one who I don't read, although I do go more by thread than person.
The only person who is MUST READ for me is Jumpy. I love the way he writes and I go crazy laughing at his comebacks to the people who put him down.
I do pay special attention to Desmond Shang and to Lindal Kidd because they are wise and funny and have perspective in spades.
I like Pep when he's good: When he's helpful, he's sterling. He does have a talent for le mot juste and sometimes he gets off two-liners that Dr. Johnson would envy.
And I look up to Brenda Connolly - she's smart and funny and honest.
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LittleMe Jewell
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08-29-2009 17:16
From: Scylla Rhiadra /me bursts into tears, and runs crying from the room ... *laughs out loud* From: Scylla Rhiadra I actually don't disagree. I'm less interested in "not hurting feelings" than I am in trying (and not always, of course, succeeding) to treat both people and their opinions with respect. And if not upsetting someone means having to avoid a particular subject entirely -- then I'd say we've really gone too far.
But that, I take it, is the way most of us try to operate here: to be both forthright and respectful. And mostly, I think, we are pretty ok at it. True, for the most part we do have a good group here where most people are pretty respectful of others' opinions.
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