Uh?
I beg your pardon Nina?
I really dont understand what you mean
Could you explain it please?
I dont think you know a thing about me to pass out those judgements.
I hope I am misunderstanding
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Mily Sartre
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12-26-2007 12:48
Uh?
I beg your pardon Nina? I really dont understand what you mean Could you explain it please? I dont think you know a thing about me to pass out those judgements. I hope I am misunderstanding |
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Arua Rotaru
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12-26-2007 14:20
its more akin to the do-gooder that cant resist poking her nose into the streetgangs affairs, constantly investigating, looking thru curtains, phoning the police, then wondering why the gang turns around and targets her. let sleeping dogs lie. im ECSTATIC that a brownshirt, AR filing, sticky beak, daniel linden fan is getting shafted. maybe she will learn to leave ppl alone and to mind her own pot. i dont understand how you can think she is getting what she deserves she reported someone that was on the grid illegally how would you feel if someone turned a blind eye against something like that and then people in sl got into legal trouble for something done in front of this child... people think nothing is going to happen but all it takes is one parent seeing their kid in some sl club where there are strippers and everyone around is going to get into trouble now i know that childs parents should be monitoring her better but it wont stop some irrate set of parents to start all kinds of junk with people in sl over something they find inappropriate and as for the rl scenario i let sleeping dogs lie as long as they are not doing something illegal or that jeopardizes those around them ill be the first to call in a drug house because i dont want my kids or any kids in the neighborhood in trouble or getting hurt i guess im just protective that way and if more people were maybe the world will get better i only hope that something doesnt happen to you and people stood around and turned a blind eye to it ..but then again if it does we can all sit here on the forums listening to the people complain how no one helped out _____________________
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Kyrah Abattoir
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12-26-2007 14:32
The world would be much better without self appointed neighborhood vigilantes.
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Chris Norse
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12-26-2007 14:43
This kid came to Mily and outed herself. Mily followed her heart, with a great deal of thought and regret. It wasn't like Mily was out looking for underage people and reporting on them. All you people giving her grief can back off. Come insult me a little bit.
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Isabeau Imako
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12-26-2007 15:00
This kid came to Mily and outed herself. Mily followed her heart, with a great deal of thought and regret. It wasn't like Mily was out looking for underage people and reporting on them. All you people giving her grief can back off. Come insult me a little bit. Nice to know chivalry can still be found ![]() |
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Oryx Tempel
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12-26-2007 15:02
Come insult me a little bit. Your Santa suit makes your butt look big. ![]() _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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12-26-2007 15:07
Your Santa suit makes your butt look big. ![]() And it's not as cute a Bradley's. Otherwise Chris is right. Mily did fine if you ask me. _____________________
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Chris Norse
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12-26-2007 17:25
Your Santa suit makes your butt look big. ![]() I would make a comment about needing a big hammer to drive a long nail, but that may not be PG so I won't. _____________________
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Kira Cuddihy
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12-26-2007 20:03
This kid came to Mily and outed herself. Mily followed her heart, with a great deal of thought and regret. It wasn't like Mily was out looking for underage people and reporting on them. All you people giving her grief can back off. Come insult me a little bit. Good for you Sweetie!! |
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Tabliopa Underwood
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12-26-2007 20:03
... jesus people what would you do to a 16 year old in real life asking for help? if she was in an 18+ bar or club I would expect the owners to ring her parents or guardians, either of which she surely has, and ask them to come and take her home. Failing that, Youth Services would be my next call, and the Police to deal with the owners. |
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Oryx Tempel
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12-26-2007 20:05
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Twosteppin Jewell
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12-26-2007 20:18
I was talking about your butt. Where're you driving that nail, buddy? ![]() _____________________
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Mily Sartre
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12-27-2007 11:08
Do we really want that answered? ![]() /me laughs |
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Kidd Krasner
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12-27-2007 11:12
if she was in an 18+ bar or club I would expect the owners to ring her parents or guardians, either of which she surely has, and ask them to come and take her home. Failing that, Youth Services would be my next call, and the Police to deal with the owners. It really depends on the type of help. If someone under 18 walked into a bar to ask directions to the nearest bus stop, and didn't look to be in any other trouble, I'd just give them the directions. |
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Mily Sartre
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12-27-2007 11:34
its more akin to the do-gooder that cant resist poking her nose into the streetgangs affairs, constantly investigating, looking thru curtains, phoning the police, then wondering why the gang turns around and targets her. let sleeping dogs lie. im ECSTATIC that a brownshirt, AR filing, sticky beak, daniel linden fan is getting shafted. maybe she will learn to leave ppl alone and to mind her own pot. Who is Daniel Linden? Am I supposed to be his fan? Do I wear brown shirts? Have I filled out an AR? Nina, I've been reading your posts slowly, trying to digest your words, trying to understand the hatred you pour out, and I dont get it. Let's get the facts straight. 1 I didnt poke into anybody's business, this girl came to me, she begged to be adopted into my family, I didnt want to get involved in any problems, but she kept asking for weeks, I had all the doubts in the world because her behaviour was not a normal one (supposing she was an adult), but I welcomed her into my home. She was there for 3 or 4 days BEFORE she told me she was 16. 2. I didnt fill any AR, as there was no abusive behaviour from her. She simply needed to be where she belonged and where she would be as SAFE as possible. I talked to her to move to the teen grid and told her I would try to contact Linden staff to see if she could have her inventory transfered. (It wasnt much, a few dolls and her bike and some outfits) I cried my eyes out while talking to her as she was so sweet when she said she didnt want to go anywhere and that she felt safe with us. 3. My friends said it was necessary to talk to a Linden when she came back the same night as they said we could be in real trouble, even legal, if we didnt. I couldnt get anybody and they did while I was gone. They did it again when she came back with another name. So, no poking my nose into strangers business, no ARs, no looking through the curtains, no constant investigation, no phoning the police, and all the rest of the accusations have as much weigh as the ones I just replied to. Maybe you're the one that's poking your nose into strangers businesses right now, I asked for advice when I couldnt get hold of a Linden, got great replies and thanked for all of them, but your reply seems to be just a flame, and shows all the hatred you have inside for people that try to be good but also try to stay safe themselves. You're ECSTATIC at my being harassed or griefed? well, thank you. Just remember that we're on the road and the stone that's hurting me now, can be the same one that hurts you somewhere along the way. Good day Nina, and I hope you good, I cant wish bad not even to people like you. |
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Dekka Raymaker
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12-27-2007 12:43
Judge and you shall be judged, condemn and you shall be condemned. well something like that.
I won't read this thread again, it upsets me so much that so many people here are willing to hide behind 'rules' (TOS) and appear to forget they have a mind of their own. Going back to the OP you should have just dealt with this as you saw fit and never posted the question in the first place. _____________________
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Mily Sartre
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12-27-2007 12:56
I've learned a lot from people in the forums, I've asked for advice many times and I've done things I didnt think of until somebody in the forums pointed me in the correct direction. Excuse me if I am not as intelligent as you are, I will keep on posting questions and getting advice even if I get slapped by a few.
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Wilhelm Neumann
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12-27-2007 15:07
I've learned a lot from people in the forums, I've asked for advice many times and I've done things I didnt think of until somebody in the forums pointed me in the correct direction. Excuse me if I am not as intelligent as you are, I will keep on posting questions and getting advice even if I get slapped by a few. okay well i will take a stab at this cause this is what i would do DONT mute them and dont ban if its pg keep them on your friends list and find a Linden that will move them and explain it till they move her. This has happened before but in other ways. This one happened to me. A parent signed her underage kid up for sl not knowing about the rules or thorougly reading them etc. The kid commented on the porn and said that they were only 15 and how do they filter this stuff out (mature kid really) and it was explained that they are on the wrong grid. A linden was eventualy found that was in their office and the person was moved. No one was muted or banned or even ar'd. The kid stayed as a friend and we talked and they kept logging in to see how things were going and when they were moved they said goodbye. _____________________
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Ranma Tardis
沖縄弛緩の明確で青い水
Join date: 8 Nov 2005
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12-27-2007 20:27
You seem like a really nice and decent person. The kind of resident I would want in the same sim and real life community as myself.
I do not think it is hatred that keeps us from helping these children but fear. I wrote about keeping children from knowing what my house looks like. This is my real life house, the little ones describing my second life house proves nothing. In the United States groups like big brother/sister are suffering from a lack of volunteers due to the current state of fear we live in. All it takes is the accusation of a child about abuse to ruin ones life. I am going to put up a high fence around my house to keep them out. I will act to save live/limb of a child but anything else the answer is no. This is the sad effect of current events. We live in a world of fear a fear that is used by the current occupant of the white house to hold onto power. I like myself far more than any child who is not a member of my family. Oh having children accuse adults of abuse is not limited to the United States but is quickly becoming a world wide event. Be well Who is Daniel Linden? Am I supposed to be his fan? Do I wear brown shirts? Have I filled out an AR? Nina, I've been reading your posts slowly, trying to digest your words, trying to understand the hatred you pour out, and I dont get it. Let's get the facts straight. 1 I didnt poke into anybody's business, this girl came to me, she begged to be adopted into my family, I didnt want to get involved in any problems, but she kept asking for weeks, I had all the doubts in the world because her behaviour was not a normal one (supposing she was an adult), but I welcomed her into my home. She was there for 3 or 4 days BEFORE she told me she was 16. 2. I didnt fill any AR, as there was no abusive behaviour from her. She simply needed to be where she belonged and where she would be as SAFE as possible. I talked to her to move to the teen grid and told her I would try to contact Linden staff to see if she could have her inventory transfered. (It wasnt much, a few dolls and her bike and some outfits) I cried my eyes out while talking to her as she was so sweet when she said she didnt want to go anywhere and that she felt safe with us. 3. My friends said it was necessary to talk to a Linden when she came back the same night as they said we could be in real trouble, even legal, if we didnt. I couldnt get anybody and they did while I was gone. They did it again when she came back with another name. So, no poking my nose into strangers business, no ARs, no looking through the curtains, no constant investigation, no phoning the police, and all the rest of the accusations have as much weigh as the ones I just replied to. Maybe you're the one that's poking your nose into strangers businesses right now, I asked for advice when I couldnt get hold of a Linden, got great replies and thanked for all of them, but your reply seems to be just a flame, and shows all the hatred you have inside for people that try to be good but also try to stay safe themselves. You're ECSTATIC at my being harassed or griefed? well, thank you. Just remember that we're on the road and the stone that's hurting me now, can be the same one that hurts you somewhere along the way. Good day Nina, and I hope you good, I cant wish bad not even to people like you. |
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Kyrah Abattoir
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12-27-2007 20:47
I'm not bashing Nina so far, just generally saying that i'm for civil disobedience when it comes to mutual respect, which also mean not taking decisions for others even if you feel you are "right" .
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3Ring Binder
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Join date: 8 Mar 2007
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12-27-2007 22:05
The girl went to the teen grid, she didnt like it and came back the same night, so we talked to a Linden and he cancelled her account. I went to work rl next day and by the time I came back, my friends told me she had come back changing her name just a little, so they talked to this Linden again and the account was cancelled again. This should be the end of the story, but the fact is that its just the beginning. I've been getting "visitors" in my home. One left me a doll picture with the conversation I had with her when I told her she needed to go to the teen grid where I said 2 years went fast and that she would be welcomed if she came back after that time. Last night I had a horrible visit to my house while my kid av (I use her to build kids furniture) was "sleeping/camping" in my bedroom. I have an adult bed, with all the functions deactivated (needs to be reset and never did do that), my kid av was on the bed in one of those cover me pillows that rezzes a blanket over, when I came online this morning the blanket on the bed had been moved and the balls (that never had been rezzed) were visible, so I opened the chat history to see who had come into the house, and what I read there was totally sick, wont tell what it was only that they asked for her, b I can tell you that at my age I blushed and felt my stomach turning. After this visit last night, we had a visitor this afternoon that came, asked a lot of questions and started shooting us (freeze, eject and ban was my inmediate reaction), seeing his profile, I found that he also was romanian. Coincidences? They might be, but I dont believe in too many coincidences happening to the same person. I'm starting to feel kind of uncomfortable over all this. I've tried to do the right thing, I've tried to protect an underage, but we residents cant do this by ourselves unless we isolate totally becoming our own prisoners. Thank you all for your comments. first the person said they were 16, then later 17. they don't even know their own age. plus, the new behavior sounds like a demented older male, and i betcha he was planning some nasty adult-child RPG sex crap... ban/mute every single one of the offenders, and copy the chats to a notecard. ignore and hopefully eventually he will tire and find new people to swindle and creep out. |
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12-27-2007 22:45
some people will take this as proof that you should have taken the nasty route from the start..
I believe in a situational approach... to me you took the sensible and caring approach for what you believed. it deveolved because they felt betrayed or something, decided to be juvenile about it and now the situation has changed.... you can try explaining you why you did what you did, but if it keeps going you'll have to go the rude officious method... it sucks but at least your ethics haven't been compromised _____________________
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Tabliopa Underwood
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12-27-2007 23:17
It really depends on the type of help. If someone under 18 walked into a bar to ask directions to the nearest bus stop, and didn't look to be in any other trouble, I'd just give them the directions. Had that been the case then I agree =) Unfortunately it wasn't. The girl was asking for beer, on more than one occasion. ... The girl went to the teen grid, she didnt like it and came back the same night, so we talked to a Linden and he cancelled her account. ... I'm with Mily, the bar owner and the police on this one. Linden only do this to avoid legal liabilities And because Lindens are people who live in a community. And they respect the laws of their community. Respect ya! its not for everyone I suppose. Is probably why they invented laws. O well =^ =) |
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Colette Meiji
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12-28-2007 15:34
Who is Daniel Linden? Am I supposed to be his fan? Do I wear brown shirts? Have I filled out an AR? Dan Linden is the one who wrote the DOB your neighbor infamous blog post. Basically instituted the whole police by spying on your neighbor policy. And I think its that is what is drawing the Brown Shirt thing (a Nazi reference, turn in your neighbors or parents, etc) Chris has it right though, Mily didn't go looking for underagers, one told her she was underage. While many people still wouldn't have turned her in, theres a pretty big difference bewteen turning in someone you know is breaking the rules, and snooping around your neighbors looking for rule-breakers. ------------- Milly I think you should either keep turning her in or ignore her, but either way stop engaging her directly in any way. Like Chris said put your banlines up. A couple months is all it should take and she will find another person to bother. Just make a group "Milly's friends" for everyone you want to have access to your land. Also encourage your friends to stop participating in the drama by talking to this girl. Shes seeking attention. Stop giving it to her. |
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Senga Tsarchon
Clinging to the future
Join date: 16 Dec 2007
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Biting the hand?
12-28-2007 17:18
... I've been getting "visitors" in my home. One left me a doll picture with the conversation I had with her when I told her she needed to go to the teen grid where I said 2 years went fast and that she would be welcomed if she came back after that time. ... ... I opened the chat history to see who had come into the house, and what I read there was totally sick, wont tell what it was only that they asked for her, b I can tell you that at my age I blushed and felt my stomach turning. After this visit last night, we had a visitor this afternoon that came, asked a lot of questions and started shooting us (freeze, eject and ban was my inmediate reaction), seeing his profile, I found that he also was romanian. Coincidences? They might be, but I dont believe in too many coincidences happening to the same person. My thought when I read your first post was that this child is not a child, or if she is, she's a manipulative little sociopath. This may be just one person, who may be in Romania. Or it may be someone else, somewhere else. Either way, you have no further obligation to the person you thought you were dealing with. She probably doesn't exist. As for yourself, be careful. Try to keep track of whoever enters your space. If they're not welcome, and you can prove they're abusing your space, more accounts can be closed. Eventually this/these nutjobs will get tired and leave you alone. Whether this person is underage or not has become immaterial. You're being attacked. Use the tools you have to block them. Senga |