Calling creators

The main differences I have noticed so far are

1) Can't log in 50% of the time
2) When I can log in I freeze up 90% of the time
3) When I can log in its pointless creating content because of the lack of permissions.
4) If I did make content it's pointless creating a business to sell it through as I cant sell L$
5) It's crap.

So this product is vastly inferior and at the moment I doubt it would appeal to the serious and talented "creative types" who are going to be the foundation of OLG's economy.

Come back when you have a stable platform and permissions system.

i don't think they are leaving sl i think they are just adding extensions of their businesses to that world as well..at least thats what i took from it.
if i could go in there without crashing i would try both as well..

I joined a while ago but forgot my password and can't for the life of me figure out how to retrieve it.

Agreed, it is inferior.

I have joined to show my protest and because maybe one day it will be a viable alternative. I am not leaving SL, but I, like many others are disappointed by this price increase.

I havn't experienced to many problems with OLG, but found there's nothing to do there.

Sounds like SL during the early months of this year, crashing, terrible lag, failed logins, lost inventory and SL was already supossed to be stable after years of beta development. Open Sim Projects have only just started to become available and most are reporting rapid development with some more advanced than others. Some, do already have currency and an economy.

You can take it or leave it but which ever way it goes, Second Life and Open Sims are based on dated software. New options are coming along too including Nurien and Mycom which are true 3D worlds and avatars look very close to real life.

Second Life will decline unless they adapt to the new software and Open Simulator projects will only progress so far unless they adapt too. The next year or two will see some fantastic advancements and Second Life WILL loose market share.

Those who have business's here in Second Life must consider the options to be sure they don't go down with any sinking ships.

1) i log in 100% of the time
2) sucks to be you, i havent crashed once, course im using the linden viewer since im on linux
3) maybe to you
4) your not selling jack anyway, what you think your gonna buy that new benz with the 3$ you made
5) so is SL whats your point

and of course its inferior, its freakin beta of someones idea, and by creative and talented dont you mean the greedy xeorx machines who charge 100 grand for a box with a shitty 3 step photoshop tutorial texture?

(omg dude make a black and chrome box club, that is sooooooo my idea DMCA DMCA!)

me im there, to me its no worse than SL as far as what ive experiance in world, sure it has alot of maturing to do, and i acutally understand that, SL didnt magically appear in a few months, its been in development for nearly 10 years, and its still shit, facing the same problems it has been

and when i get more time to be there ill be creating stuff, cause, eventho im alot of things, im not in it to make a buck, im here to have fun, and my fun is to create

is there a grid there or is it hosted on our machines??back when i first registerd like maybe a year ago if that is when it was someone said there was not a grid but i had to host from my machine..

if i could get my stupid password and user name i'd try logging in again lol

found my password and stuff..but it looks like there are a few different viewers..whats the best one?

1) Not the general experience
2) Just read these forums, the majority of people crash out. I've tried logging in on a linux machine to and still crashed so what is it that you are doing that's special (other than being a wanker?)
3) Ive done the whole pioneer thing when SL was in Beta. I have no incentive to create full perm content so yer it is pointless to me and the majority of others.
4) Thats just naive. How can you persume to know how much content I sell? Maybe take a fly accross the mainland in SL and you'll find out. Rarely can you cross more than 3 or 4 regions without seeing my work in some form or another.
5) Your opinion. (which is flawed)



Yeah it's a beta of Philip Rosedales idea, being rehashed by people who can do nothing other than copy that which has already been done. By talented and creative people I mean the core of content creators that have made SL's economy possible. Without them SL would either be empty or full of crap....very much like OLG is today.



So SL is still facing the same problems as it was 10 years ago? what are these exactly?

I've belonged to Open Life for some time, really out of curiosity. My main loyalty is to Second Life but I see no harm in trying out OL too. I also have a 2-sim standalone island downloaded from OL.

I really just play about in Open life, I don't own any land. I've managed to get my appearance to look the same in OL and SL, although I never wear any clothes in OL and I don't even possess any there. But I do have an unofficial sky hangout I built above open-build land which has an absentee owner!

Performance in OL is less reliable than SL, but for me it's not too bad. I rarely meet anyone there and there only seem to be a handful logged in at any one time. There are some nice builds and a lot of open space. The system of land ownership is different in OL, on a whole-sim basis, so that makes the landscape look subtly different.

In a way, visiting OL from SL like visiting another nearby country in RL, like a British person visiting Ireland, or an American visiting Canada or a French person visiting Belgium!

Thought nude not allowed in OL with it being rated 15+.

Send an email from the website and they will reset it for you

No idea - but I hardly ever meet anyone in OL and I don't think my birthday suit is likely to offend anyone. Those people I have met have never complained. Anyway I probably appear to them in default grey!

Somebody can correct me if I'm mistaken about this but...

My understanding of OL is that it isn't an alternative to SL at all - it's just some hobbyists who are using the OpenSim stuff to put together what appears to be an alternative. OpenSim is merely trying to copy SL, and doing a very good job as far as they've got.

So OL isn't their own work at all, but merely a set/grid of OpenSim sims (something that anyone can do), and it is wholly reliant on OpenSim improvements, which itself is trying to reproduce SL, rather than be an alternative of the same sort of thing. And OL is charging significant money for it.

Imo, OL isn't an alternative at all - it's just opportunism and, for real money, it offers people something that they can get for free from OpenSim. E.g. for the enjoyment of building, set up a sim, or a grid of sims, on your own computer. To occasionally socialise with people, put your own sim/grid online and have people log in - even link it to the other OpenSim sims and grids.

In other words, OL isn't their own work, and isn't an alternative to SL. It's OpenSim's work, which is trying to be an exact duplicate of SL.

I'll go to OL when there's something in it for me. At this time, there's not.

i keep hearing about how great people say it is there..they need to get to where they have a better script for logging in because the avg person let alone people that know what they are doing are filling topics of not being able to log in..

plus only 5,000 residents which they are bragging about seem to be one of the reasons they keep saying it may be too busy and login's are slow.

i thought all of second life could fit on one sim.

i spent two hours trying to get logged in trying everything they posted in the forums there..if there is some secrete to it i sure didn't find it..i would like to log in to at least see what it's like and to see if i could build something there..

does anyone have any suggestions besides the shortcut trick?
or maybe a better version of the shorcut trick?maybe they are leaving something out in their explanation.

No one is bragging its buggy and the login is sometimes patchy as the login servers are trying to handle 240 logins a sec at some points and they haven't been scaled yet lol Its a pioneer spirit and if u r getting frustrated now i would advise you not to join. Its seen massive growth rate the last week due to SL and they are now working hard to get things sorted bit by bit lol Try logging in via another region or try another viewer and join the chat on the website for questions

But if lack of patience and the expectations its like another SL is yours then i would advise you to not join at the moment

QFT.... Im finding the reasons I first joined SL at OL now. If people want a perfect clone of SL I doubt if they will see that

I so agree with you there Its a long way off but i think people expect it to be a perfect clone and its not and i think they are going another path in many areas. For me its a great place to learn where i didn't get the chance before.

But as i said if you got patience and are prepared to help shape it over the long term it could be fun. I advise people not to buy regions unless like us they don't mind the problems that are happening at the moment and can afford to lose it if anything happens. No one is gonna make a fast buck there presently but theres a great community spirit and people doing things for fun and not for the cash.

We are staying with SL and will keep our main sim unless LL does more crazy things but its fun to be in OLG for us but u need patience and lots of it and to remember its NOT AN SL CLONE lol

I think OL has been over-hyped during the past week and I think this is a more accurate description from Lord Sullivan. In the threads responding to the OS price rise allot of poeple were hailing OL as being comparable to SL without having to deal with the BS of the Lindens. I think it's somparable to SL 5 - 6 years ago and will be a good chance for those people who missed SL's beta period to experience a fledgling grid and as long as they they stabalise the grid it will be good for people who only build for pleasure/fun.

Although I have been anti OL in this thread mainly in response to others comments, overall I think OL is a good idea and I will participate once certain elements have deveoped.

Yes people, OpenLife place is no good. Does not work at all. Nobody can log in. Cannot build and hair is a mess.
I would advise nobody with less than a physics degree to try to work it. Maybe in ten years it might work better.

You need a special viewer and tools and the cost is enormous.

Stick with SL, please. Everyone....Please stay here.


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The most important question, which I haven't seen addressed, is, Can I be a dog there? If I can't get down on all fours and run around and bark at people and pee on stuff, it's not the place for me.

Body attachments are a hit and miss thing per avatar. Good luck.

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