Annoying Home Invasion - Best Way to Handle

I've watched enough episodes of OZ to know I'd gladly go along.

Oh, in your case, you will get the one that found Jesus while in prison.

Sigh. That would be my luck.

It could be worse Bradley, did you ever see the episode with the spoon?

LOL I think I like you Malachi! Perhaps a bit drastic, but I like the way you think. When it comes to trespass...errr..explorers in SL, they tend to forget that land is private property ~ it's a privilege to be able to explore it. Why is it in SL, it's acceptable to forego common politeness? Just be cause one "can" do something, doesn't necessarily mean they "should" do it. I suppose I could just blow 'em up if I catch 'em.

Originally Posted by Maggie McArdle
i offer a challenge for 2008: i dare the forum to go the entire year without mentioning:
Child Avas
Banlines
Security Orbs
SL Relationships vs RL Relationships
Sex
Landbots
Gorean
Griefing
Brenda's Lingerie





My RL wife said I was spending too much time in SL recently. (My SL GF is one of my Property Managers so I think there is some friction there.)
So I decided to get rid of some of my isolated small lots of land. I had a little spot next to a Gorean region that had always been trouble. Constant griefers and ban lines everywhere so it was a little hard to keep rented anyway.
So I TP over there to set the price low enough for the landbots to take it off my hands (hey if they can use them to steal land then I can use them as patsies to get rid of junk land.
Soon as I TP in I get spammed by someone security orb who obviously doesn't realise that 96 meters is far to large a radius to cover a 512 lot. Great! Can't mute it for some reason, probably just Lag. So I just ignore it and get to setting the land for sale.
Well, while I was setting the land for sale I notice 2 child avies next door having a sibling fight and shouting at each other in childish manner. I have to admit it was kinda funny but the fact they were shouting everything made the land even less desirable.
At least they weren't having sex, but I'm not sure if 2 child AVies having sex with each other counts as pedophilia anyway?
Anyway, I keep dropping the price on the lot but it's so wrecked by ad farms that not even the land bots want it.
My question is, do you think it would sell faster if I included some of Brenda's lingerie in with the purchase price?


hahaaa That was fun! I even got ad farms and lag in there! next challenge?

ebil, just plain EBIL ...

/me APPLAUDS!!!!!

Well done! Bonus points for mentioning lag!

*hides in a corner*

that.. that something so amazing and yet... frightening can exist... it is an omen.. the Grid is at an end, my friends... FIND SHELTER!!!

I think that people really need to adjust their concept of "private property" in SL. If you take a look around the documentation and TOS/CS, there are no rules which state that people are not allowed to explore, nor are there any rules to keep people off your property without you taking allowed methods such as banlines or scripts. There are guidelines for how to flag your parcel as private... such as the knowledge base article (log into support to see it):

*note - Take special notice of the title... it sort of sums it up*

And here's one about privacy (again, log into the support system to read):

Beyond that, there is no recourse. Linden Labs encourages exploration... it's mentioned right on the front page of SecondLife.com. If you want people to stay off your land, put up banlines... use a security script... or put up a sign.

I am all for people protecting, and honoring, people's privacy... but it has never been the intention of Linden Labs to lock down the main grid to a huge travel restricted area. that's why banlines only go up so high, and why roads are placed all over... to allow safe passage for those who are exploring. Check out the next piece... advocating exploring.. followed up with a paragraph about other people's content. Why mention other people's content if you aren't allowed to go look at it?

And here's another reference...

Here's another one... I love this one...

The argument that all of mainland must follow the restrictions SOME landowners have for their OWN parcels of land, goes against the spirit of exploration Linden Labs advertises Second Life to have.

Again... I am all for privacy... but not at the expense of an advertised and fully supported activity such as exploration. If you want someone out of your house and/or off your land, follow the rules while restricting access. Also, keep in mind while doing this, that using land access restriction tools to prevent another user of Second Life from enjoying their basic rights is a no-no too:

Wow .. if you could take out of context marketing propaganda and claim it as Linden Policy in any more a cobbled together fashion Id be impressed.

This completely ignores Town Halls where Robin Linden publicly has gone on record saying security orbs are fine,

AND ignores the fact they gave us ban lines in the first place.

I did not take out of context material and claim it as Linden policy. I addressed one post on this thread which stated that exploring was offensive. I also repeated throughout my post that I completely stand for privacy rights... just not at the expense of legitimate exploring.

Yes... the Lindens *HAVE* gone on record stating that security orbs are fine. They are fine. They are no different than any other functional script, and the functions provided which are used in security scripts were put there specifically for that purpose. I am not sure what your point is here.

I am simply pointing out that LL supports and encourages exploration. Some people don't like that, and want to impose their own ideas of what SL should be on the rest of us.

I do not condone griefing or harrassment, nor do I encourage people going into other people's homes. I am simply making a case for legitimate exploration in response to a post which stated there was no such thing.

You guys have way too much patience. With me there wouldn't of been a second person there as I would of kicked out the first one without any words and without any hesitation.

Land and home intruders in the guise of 'explorers' for the most part have no respect and no decency and as such you terminate them without regrets or warning. And the best part is it's your right to bounce them out of your property.

Forget reporting it.

I bet it killed the mood too.

I just had a thought: Give the landowner a two-step option for intruders. 1. A formal warning to leave, and after a suitable several seconds' pause, 2. Allow the owner to collar the intruder(s) and do as they will with them. Muhuhuhahaha. (Probably comes from looking at that BDSM thread earlier.)

I for one can't believe this whole discussion has started all over again ...... The only reason it came back up was Mr Bouchet's rather creative taking up of a challenge, which is now being ignored.


/me (in the famous words of a famous forum dweller) shrugs

oh no i LOVED it! my comment was made tongue in cheek, but Mr Bouchet rose to the occaision the cheeky devil!!!

Exactly, I'm all for privacy too, especially when I'm paying a mint to have 4 walls that people can see through - i.e. common sense measures can and should be taken to restrict one's land, if land owners wish. If explorers can traipse all over SL creation with little or no regard for even a modicum of paying resident's privacy, then I can restrict access to my parcels if I choose (within reason). Otherwise, I think we all should sell our parcels of land or islands and move to Parrot Head Cove and live..lots of space there too.

If you want to keep people off your property, use banlines or a security system. Eject them if you want... hell TP them home if it makes you feel like a man. But using push weapons or other griefer tools? No better than someone sneaking into your primhouse and using your primtoilet.

That's a shotgun offense in some quarters. Buckshot, both barrels.

Perhaps in First Life... in Second Life, it's a "should have had your ban lines up" or "should have had my security orb on".

I am not advocating people going into anyone's homes and using their pink & blues, not at all. I am saying, however, that the only way to restrict access to your land, is to use the tools you have to restrict access to your land.

If you don't want Newbie47321 entering your house... turn on the redlines.

Ahh.. let me take a look at option 1...ok. Now option 2, ok, seems fine.

Nahhh, I'd rather just take them out.


But the post was a nice thought though.

You know... before I took my year long break from SL... most of the people I knew were all about following the TOS/CS while protecting themselves from griefing/squatting. Now it seems a most people I talk to resent the TOS and want to grief the griefers...

What the hell happened while I was gone? lol

Two wrongs don't make a right... they just encourage the first wrong to take wrong to a new level.

Not that I advocate attacking people ..

But if the TOS is only selectively enforced,

where griefers routinely get away with things ..

while normal homeowners are the only ones who get in trouble..

It will lead to some cynical people.

A comet flew overhead, with a wierd tail..then everything went to shit.