Handling Neighbors Ban Lines

Thanks, lots of good things you bring up. And I did have a flight feather on but will admit maybe did not go high enough. And I am all for resolving it in a friendly manner.

But, um, who is whining? That was a bit harsh.

I hope you can resolve your problem otherwise too, but if you need to screen him off, I have a line of big screens designed to block eyesores that includes a pretty decent seascape. It might solve your problem for you, if needed. It is transparent on the other side, but you can change that if you want. Screens are not a perfect solution because they are inevitably different from the surrounding scenery, but they can be a good solution to a problem that won't go away otherwise.

You're right........and I apologize for my statement. You are not whining and I should not have said that about you........but I'v seen so many threads go off on bitch fests about ban lines that I let that thought leak into my post.

I'm sorry.

/me gives group hug

Har, if need be, I will absolutely keep this in mind. Not perfect, but might be an imperfect option.

Thanks for the offer.

I went to take another look, and they do not have a home built in the sky. And, homes across the open water have ban lines, but you can't see them from my property at all. It's just his property that seems to be the issue, far to close to mine. So, either I'll have to move my home up a bit to the South, which is nearly impossible since I have very little leeway to do so (and I'm not about to buy another house to solve this!), move it to the West a bit (which might help somewhat and I was going to do anyway before pinning it down for good), or like I keep saying - hope for the best with this person that they will be reasonable.

If not - well, I guess I'll no choice but to take a course of action which truly does go against my nature. I'm just so NOT an eye for an eye kind of person, even though I find it amusing to fantasize about.

I found out that invisiprims (can be obtained at almost every freebie shop) hide those banlines. The downside on this trick is, it will hide everything that uses transparencies too. so his building, looking through the invisiprim, might start to look a bit weird, with parts missing. Your neighbour will experience the same looking towards your land. But maybe that will get him to remove the banlines. Or he will just wonder what the h*** happened ^^;

-Asriazh

This is a fantastic tool! Hey, I could care less what HIS building looks like from inside my home. I'm not using the back of my home for anything, there is little useful land for me to use for recreation purposes at that part of the house. All I have there is landscaping helping improve my view of the water. As long as it doesn't ruin the look of all my palm trees (which sit on my land of course) I'll be thrilled.

Just place the 10x10x0.1 invisiprim between your and your neighbours land and you'll be fine and it sure beats erecting ugly walls, since you can still look through the invisiprim ^_^

-Asriazh

Finding a mutual solution would be wonderful.
However, when faced with a neighbour who ignores the problem they are causing for you, there's not much you can do that will make the problem worse.
I'm not getting at Peggy particularly, but there is no possibility of "mutual" if the flavour of the neighbour's attitude is "anyone not liking it was pretty much ignored by me.........it was none of their business and I was not going to tell them either"

The neighbour is imposing visual blight on you, but that's totally legal. They are as entitled to do so as is an ad-farmer to stick up rotating ads. There is nothing that can be done to make them remove them. As the OP noticed, the ban lines do appear to encroach on neighbouring parcels. They are worse than ad-farms.
What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. If you are forced to uglify your plot by putting up solid walls on the boundary, then by golly make the neighbour's side as plywood (or whatever). Yes, you are being forced to use your own prims to destroy the natural look of your parcel, as a solid barrier will generally be less intrusive and ugly than ban lines.
If the neighbour actively harasses you, AR them. Their use of ban lines and your use of plywood would be entirely irrelevant in the context of the AR.


However, if the lie of the land means that your plywood becomes an eyesore for other neighbours, then that's an issue that might modify things.
a) Leave the plywood and IM the other neighbours explaining why it's there. They might consider to the same as they are also being subjected to the ban line blight. I wouldn't encourage them to do so, as that might be interpreted as harassment in exactly the same way that encouraging neighbours to screen off ad-farms might be interpreted as harassment of the ad-farmer.
b) Make the neighbour-side texture as pretty as possible.
c) Make the neighbour-side texture as totally transparent.


Personally, I don't like (c) as I don't like to give inconsiderate people a free ride





PS: Hat's off to Peggy for withdrawing the "whining" remark.
Use of the current standard Banning facility as a way of keeping people out of their parcels is a *very* emotive topic for some people. We've seen some very heated exchanges in this forum. It's easy to get buttons pushed.

A simple solution. Thanks to Asriazh' level head this issue now no longer exists. I think we can end the whining now.

Hi Elora,
I'm with the "talk to your neighbor" camp. I bought a small plot a long time ago, and asked the woman who bought the plot right next door about her ban lines. She had put them up automatically to "keep out the newbies" but I pointed out that MY visitors were also affected. We talked for a while and she ended up taking down the banlines altogether, and just banned trespassers individually. We're still happily neighbored and wave hello now and then.

She should slay her neighbour and take his/her land for herself. Then she should hire scribes to erase her neighbour's name from history and sew salt into her neighbours farmland so it can never bear crops again.

That's what I did when my real life neighbours cat crapped in my garden.

/me slaps her forehead

What was I THINKING? Don't forget to hunt down all her neighbor's offspring and slay them as well.

The Goreans live across the open waters

BTW - since the Invisiprim is free - what type of box would I find it in? Scripts?

I'll log in and send you one. May be about an hour or so though.

Thanks very much Conan! Take your time, I don't know if I'll be able to get in and pick it up today.

No problem. They can be tricky to work with if they are small. I'll size it to 10x10x0.1 before I send it, so there's no risk of losing it on your land when you rez it.

It is possible, though would take some creative work, to take some screen shots of the scene you are placing the screens over and create a texture with them to closely simulate the scene you are covering up. I should try this just to see how easy/hard it would be to do...

Ideally, I'd like him to take the ban lines down, not have to create a false background. I didn't pay nearly $10,000L per lot (3 of them) to have fake water and sky (Ok, I know it's all fake in the grand scheme of things, but in SL it's all real to all of us). I specifically bought this land, because of the natural beauty it had. That, would be the ultimate last resort if all else fails.

Besides at the moment, since his ban lines are already in place and quite visible. As Joey in "Friends" said; "It's a Moo point" (it doesn't matter to the cow).

more like "idiots" - ban lines don't stop anyone from looking into another parcel.

Seriously good !
This will work very well for plots on land.
Water plots are a bit iffy however, as the invisiprim will also hide the water surface on the other side of the prim - not just the neighbour's water but any water in the viewing angle throgh the prim. That could look seriously strange in some situations, but overall, this is a good solution.


/me slaps head!

A while back I made a building with an invisiprim texture on the inside walls. the walls had a few openings to show the 'real' outside beside the 'invizied' outside. It was quite surreal, with the effect changing depending on the viewing angle and distance from the wall.


I've just tried this on a plot that has ban lines on one boundary. It definitely hides the lines.
The neighbour might be upset to find that their darkened windows are now 3D television to the universe.

The best thing to do would be to put a totally invisible texture on the neighbours side. There's no need to be showing off your own interior decor to them.

This would be an appropriate application for phantom megaprims of the best size for the boundary.

People can texture their own invisprims of whatever size with the following quick and dirty procedure:

Drop a script into the prim.
Strive posted this script somewhere sometime:

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//strife onizuka (c)
//string cloak = "e97cf410-8e61-7005-ec06-629eba4cd1fb"; //simple cloak
string cloak = "38b86f85-2575-52a9-a531-23108d8da837"; //uber cloak, hides 95% of prims

default
{
state_entry()
{
llSetPrimitiveParams([PRIM_TEXTURE, ALL_SIDES, cloak, <0,0,0>, <0.475, 0.5, 0>, 0.0, PRIM_BUMP_SHINY, ALL_SIDES, PRIM_SHINY_NONE, PRIM_BUMP_BRIGHT]);
llRemoveInventory(llGetScriptName());
}
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Edit the texture on the neighbour's side to a totally transparent texture.
There are a lot of freebie sources for Totally Transparent / Totally clear textures. Harbingers being one.

It's a bummer that the water gets hidden, but overall it's maybe better than either ban lines or a solid rectangle.

Actually what he said was that "It's like a cow's opinion; it doesn't matter. It's moo."

PS: When you do it, play with looking through the prim at different angles. All sort of things will disappear an reappear. Very strange. If people don't know it's there, they might start putting in support calls about rendering being seriously broken

Or better yet, make a texture that says "BAN" in big red letters and tile the neighbor's side with it.

Imma go make that texture.