A Resource based Economy. The Zeitgeist Way.

Damn! /me puts webcam on shopping list....

This thread has become slightly off topic again, but REALLY quite interesting. I`m aware that there will be anti ZGM members on SL who may try to get me to take my eye off the ball. And others who are pointing me in the right direction while not showing any real interest in TZGM.
One thing that I do know about SL is that you join and straight away build your virtual person. This also involves giving your virtual self an ego, personality, image etc. Even in real life, we find it hard to change certain things about ourselves for the benefit of some kind of new way of living. Many people don`t like huge changes and want to be left alone in their own little world. Well that`s fine as long as they are not contributing to the holding back of the way of life that billions are striving for around the globe.
Imagine if all wars ended and there were no more for thousands of years to come. Imagine no more needles starvation and deaths by curable diseases.
Hard to imagine isn`t it ???? I think It`s hard to imagine because we all think we know enough about the way we humans have already been conditioned and that we only live for today, so fck the world in the years to come. These people are unfortunately the majority of the worlds populations, who are sucked into thinking that money is the only way to survive and struggle all their lives while 1 % of the worlds populations are living a life of absolute luxury with power to boot.
BUT, many people are struggling even more due to the economic downturn. Which was brought on by WHO? Yep, that 1 %.. So out of all those who are re thinking their lives, many are joining groups and organisations all over the globe. We are saying, "Stuff you lot, we `re off to find a better quality of life. Some of these people are going as far as joining a Movement such as ZG. Zeitgeist Movement is really important because we can go and get a new life as an individual but what about people who live or want a city kind of life? Well, that`s where the Venus Project comes in. This is REALLY what the ZGM is hoping to achieve. A new city that will show the rest of the world how it could be if people just gave up their ego`s, learn to get on with others and live without religious establishment influences , learn how to get out of the `System` of money and all that goes with it. Learn how to open their minds a little and stop thinking they know it all.
In other words, this planet`s human population will never change for the better if we do nothing.
How did women get Rights?? Some people (women) decided to get together and do something about it. Now, women have a pretty good life.
If you want change, you have to change to be the change.
It`s happening but slowly. So one day, the ZGM will be more than just an on line social network and a Venus City WILL get built.
Here in the UK there is a rapidly expanding community of people who work for nothing. Yes you heard it right, for NOTHING. They go around the country helping each other and advising new starters to build an eco house/community. Totally off grid and self sustained. Soon you will start to see small towns and then cities, all being built..... well , not in the way you are used to.

Money makes the world go BUST
Leave the system, before we`re DUST.

Robin Hanson proposes that multiple "singularities" have occurred throughout history, dramatically affecting the growth rate of the economy.





"dramatically affecting the growth rate of the economy." Well you`re getting me started now, But I`m already 2 hours late for work and nursing a severe tooth ache.
But I will return and say a bit about the growth rate of the economy Vs equality, peace, love, freedom, quality of life and real understanding of our planet and It`s resources and what we could achieve in the generations to come and being able to predict and plan a better environment for our great, great, great, great grandchildren.

I`ll be back.

A. From H. G. Wells, "The anti-progressives of the early twentieth century loved to assert that "Human Nature" never altered; to imagine that the men of the Stone Age felt and thought like bank clerks picnicking in a cave, and the ideas of Confucius and Buddha were easily interchangeable with the ideas of Rousseau, Karl Marx or De Windt. They were not simply ignorant, but misinformed about almost every essential fact in the past experiences and present situation of the race."

The New Utopians by Robert Boguslaw: "As Norman R. F. Maier (and others) point out years ago, the term "Human Nature" is characteristically used as a screen to hide our ignorance about man in general. And one of the more elementary oversights made in discussions of human behavior consists of ignoring the fact that the actions of men are set in motion by external as well as internal forces."

As Arthur C. Clark and many other forward writers have pointed out, anyone who brings up the human nature question is naïve.

From the book Looking Forward, by Jacque Fresco:

"When little was known about cultural anthropology, sociology, and psychology, it seemed quite valid to resist proposed reforms by saying, "it won't work. It is against human nature." It is difficult for many people to appreciate the fact that what they call "human nature" just doesn't exit. People are like mirrors they largely reflect their surroundings. If people were to come into the world with a fixed "nature" consisting of automatic responses, civilization would be impossible. Like the ants, we would live out our lives in patterns that are modified but little with the passing of time. The wonderful thing about us is that we come into this world with maximum flexibility."

From The Best That Money Can't Buy, Page 89, by Jacque Fresco

Bigotry, racism, nationalism, jealousy, superstition, greed, and self-centered behavior are all learned patterns of behavior, which are strengthened or reinforced by our upbringing. These patterns of behavior are not inherited human traits or "human nature" as most people have been taught to believe. If the environment remains unaltered, similar behavior will reoccur. When we come into the world we arrive with a clean slate as far as our relationships with others are concerned.

In the final analysis, any judgment regarding undesirable human behavior serves no purpose without an attempt to alter the environment that creates it. In a society that provides for most human needs, constructive behavior would be reinforced, and people who have difficulty interacting in the community would be helped rather than imprisoned.

Aspiring to a particular ethical behavior has to do with human aspirations and ideals. Functional morality is the ability to provide a process level to achieve a sustainable environment for all people. By this, we mean providing clean air and water, goods and services, and a healthy and innovative environment that is emotionally and intellectually fulfilling. It is difficult to conceive of any solutions that would serve the interest of the majority in a monetary-based system. None of this can be accomplished without a comprehensive redesign of our social system and eventual replacement of the monetary-based system by a resource-based economy


From the Q +A section of The Venus Project web site.

http://thevenusproject.com/introFaq.php

ARd for advertising as well as being extremely boring

"It" has been ARd for flaming.

No, for advertising.

Oh, he's not boring!

I find all this fascinating.

Still think it would make a fiery Great Debate on the virtual lecture circuit!



Couple ways to do it.

1) talk with question and answer session

2) moderated debate with someone of an opposing view

First way is easier. Wouldn't take much to make a poster and set a date, plus group notices in half a dozen micronations.

I'd *so* help, if only for the spectacle of it all.

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