Non sexual nudety and child avatars

Regardless, if they turn it over to the police immediately, they're not in trouble.

Exactly. The mention of porn isn't relevant here at all, not sure why it was even brought up.

Even Paypal processes payments for photographers who sell photos of RL children in the nude, and they're famous for not dealing with adult or objectionable content. The whole key is that it isn't sexualized. Nudity doesn't mean something is porn, and the lack of nudity doesn't automatically mean it isn't. Porn is something specifically in the "prurient interest", nude or not.

The photograph of the Hayley skin I have on Xstreet SL is identical to the one that was returned, *except* that the one that was returned was wearing panties instead of a censorship mark. I submit that anyone who thinks that is in the prurient interest has a few mental issues they need to deal with.

blah the blah the blah, etc.

What a huge discussion over being naked as a child in public...

JUST DON'T <---- insane sized font would be appropriate here.

I use a child avatar, because I want to look cute. Children have a major advantage of being cute.
If it's in your own land, then It's probably okay, but why to enjoy nakedness in SL anyway?
On a general scale even? SL Sex is overrated, and naked bodies are pretty much boring to see. We have a billion shops for clothes, and you don't use them. CLOTHES PEOPLE!!!
Be different. Being naked is boring. showing your child sized, (and intended) naked body in public, already states there is a lot of things wrong with you in the first place.

Just don't walk around naked with your child avi.

If you have to redress, and thus get naked, then do that out of sight, or at home.

Playing in the shower with a naked child avi???????

Take a real one... A really cold one...

a really cold real child?! 0.o
(j/k)

anyway, someone being naked is only wrong for the people who both associate nakedness of any age with sex and associate sex with negative things

If you had actualy read the thread, you would have seen the question was about people using third party viewers or devises to "strip" the clothes layers off Child Av's and take thier pictures... *not* about them playing SL in the buff.....

In that case I still don't get it O.o

I didn't read every post, I don't have time to read everything.

In my opinion... It's basically "to each his/her own". We all have our own little kinks and quirks that make us who we are. Some people consider Teletubbies crude and offensive. Others want to be beaten with a chicken while bound against a stone wall with leather straps... as a warm up to the real action. Then there's the whole gray area in between. (^_^)

I've never once been shy about my arrival from the *chan /cake/ boards and my interest in lolicon art. I make a lot of inworld jokes about Rule34. While at the same time, I am capable of being a rather descent person. There is a place and context for just about anything, particularly virtually. Sure, it's just pixels. Just like any other art is just ink, paint, light, and such. In the end, it's the final product that has it's entertainment level. (^_^)

I'm well known for being the kind of person that just skirts the rules. I enjoy it. There's bit of fun to be had just being on the verge of breaking the rules, but not. Almost like the unofficial 74mph speed limit on California's 65mph highways. Yes, you're speeding, but in general you won't get pulled over. But, at the end of the day, it's complying to the rules that defines our actions. (^_^)

I very much prefer the rules to be liberal enough to allow us to be who we are and who we want to be in a service that claims "Your world. Your imagination." And, if I'm gonna take a bath, I sure as heck don't want to be all wrapped up in a suit. Even if it's just for RP sake. (^_^)y

A chicken, *oh, no*. Wait!!!! is it dead or alive?

Before or after? =^-^=

OH GAWD!!! That's a morbid thought. (>_<

With all due respect:

This is a touchy subject area that has prompted endless rounds of discussion in the past. Because so much has been said already, the odds of anyone contributing something new without at least reading the current thread, if not some other very long threads, are slim to none. I realize that because there are such strong emotions that you feel a need to express them, and I'm not saying that you shouldn't. But it's not helpful to rehash old stuff.

So please, please, on this or any other controversial subject, find the time to catch up on what's been said already before adding to it. It's the difference between increasing communication and understanding versus just fanning the flames. And if you don't have the time to read the discussion, then ask whether it's really necessary to add to it.

Unless it's from KFC

I love KFC. In fact, I think I will go there for lunch this afternoon.

Just speaking to anyone on this - I'm stunned people seem not to know.

*It doesn't matter if the person behind the av in this situation is underage or not. The mere depiction of a child in proximity to a sexual situation (CARTOON OR OTHERWISE) is a federal offense in America, I'm sure in many other nations as well. And it is clearly a bannable offense within SL. Period.*

How is this even an issue? Why would anyone need a naked child avatar? Why would anyone need to put a child av in a mature roleplay area? They don't. Why do people keep wondering about this. It seems common sense to me.

Obviously you've never seen a lolicon art website. There are still a lot of *chan sites that maintain a /cake/ or /l/ image board, in the US, with no legal trouble at all. I'm too lazy to post any facts, which you lack right now, so all I can suggest is that you search a bit more with a lot less self-inflicted bias. (=_=)

The majority of the legal risk exists in UK and EU. (=_=)

As with any other time you're using someone else's computer resources, it's best to assume that if you have to ask, the answer is No.

On that note. While often dressed, I have a very sassy AO. Could someone consider that lewd? (=_=)

That's not a gaurantee until the result of age verification is available to everyone as it is on FurryMUCK. FurryMUCK has had age verification for at least 11 years now (I recall verifying as a minor at age 16 in 199, and isn't segregated by age. On the other hand, it's pretty easy to tell who is and isn't a minor. Typing @age on furryMUCK tells you the status of everyone in the same room as you: "Baloo_Uriza, SomeoneElse are played by an adult. This_Guy, Second_Guy and Joe is played by a minor. YetAnotherPerson is unknown."

The age verification is identical to the mail-in verification on SL, unless you're registering as a minor (in which case they take your word for it, since minors aren't segregated to their own area there, and at least when I was a minor, there was a real social stigma against talking to minors in any capacity).

While there are ways to gaurantee that folks are adults, generally it requires being a landowner, setting the plot to mature, and requiring age verification to enter. It's not as easy as looking at someone's profile like it should be.

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That's still not a guarantee.

Sure it is, unless you're going to question the validity of notarized copies of official ID.

Yeah well, the way I see it, doesn't mean you shouldn't ask anyway...because what happens when we ASSUME?

The SL age verification the land-permissions system uses is not based on notarized copies of official ID; hence, no guarantee.

Are you saying that when you're naked, your AO is rather boring?

To date, I refuse to verify my age. In RL I'm an adult and have been one for a while now. Regardless... "Protecting a child" from simulated depictions of 'bath time' is a bizarre way of thinking to me. And this apparent cultural taboo of something that is simply a depiction of skin is mind boggling. (>_<

The OP of this thread addresses the non-sexualized and non-eroticized depictons of young nudity. Rape, incest, abuse, pornography, molestation, age verification and any other subjects are part of another set of discussions. (>_<

To me the mindset that there is any offensive part of the human body of any age is a frighteningly troublesome self-loathing view of humanity. (T_T)

Gah... I mean... Considering I'm dress most of the time. But my AO is sassy....

Or

I wear clothes... I wear an AO... My AO is sassy...

Or

Wait... I'm not exactly wearing my AO... It's a HUD item... (O.o)

AAAAAaaaah! Darn you!! Now I'm confused now, and stuff! (>_<

/me pokes you in the nose for being the grammer police! (>_<

If you assume the failsafe answer as was suggested, you don't get banhammered.