Non sexual nudety and child avatars

I have been trying to get an answer if non sexual nudety (bathing, showering, walking around your own home, nude beaches etc.) with child avatars is alowed or not, in other words if nudety per see is a lewd act making it iligal as described in the last ageplay blog post.

I tried sending notecards to g-team lindens and asking the knowlidge base lindens to write a explanation but the notecards go unaswered and the knowlidge base ticket gets closed without action.

sadly I can't go to the g-team officehours because of time restrains, does anyone know another way to get it answered or to ask the g-team in an office hour and post their answer here?

Or maybe someone already asked and can give the "official" g-team standpoint.

Given the hoohah about kid avs and the problems that it causes IN a sexual sense, what real need do you have to have a naked child av?

Why risk one step closer to child size avs being banned?

The problem is not about having a need for a naked chil av but rather the risk that someone using a tool like sl proxy filters out the clothing layers to send a false AR on a naked child av that is only naked on his screen, if nudety in itself is, as I suspect, not an offence then that is not a risk. as a side effect it will help reduce some of the hysteria.

Mmm... no, it won't. The hysteria has it's roots in the general Western anti-pedophilia moral panic, which is not going away that easily, and has been rising for more than a few years without slowing down. Anyone who doesn't condemn any depiction of children will eventually be branded a sex offender - and that includes organizations and companies which don't take draconian and otherwise unprecedented measures to stop the perceived threat.

That, or people will actually start thinking.

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To answer the question: there have not be clear rules made on this, and a lot of it is based on context. If you are taking a bath at home, you should not have an issue. I can, however, understand the concern. Like all avatars, public nudity is a potential violation in PG and even some mature areas under the community standards, though you *could* conceivably face more scrutiny due to having a child avatar,.

Notecards and such to the GTeam are not usually answered, and the knowledge base has nothing on this. I do usually find the GTeam office hour to be best, but can't usually make it their either.

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Ya know, this whole question could be about adult avs. Is making it about child avs only to have more comments and chances of a derail? Give LL a lil bit of consideration. It would be investigated no matter what av was involved. Leave us kids alone!!!!

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'tis true. Again, it does come down to context. As an aside, you'll find that many (most?) on the GTeam are at least friendly with kid avvies. I've seen at least one of them in a chibi anime style kid avvie before, too. As such, you can *usually* expect a fair shake from 'em.

I have a notecard from when I posed the question in G-Team office hours. I wrapped my question with some context and got the response that it is subjective. It is child sexuality that is an offense. Nudity, while hardly justifiable to the Linden I spoke with, could still be acceptable in a non-sexual context. (^_^)

At a later date, I asked about appearance VS age of avatar and the potential for a knee jerk reaction. I got a pretty humorous response that basically boiled down to.... You have to be pretty blatant and stupid to get LindPWNed for SAP. (=_=)y

Honestly, with as badly mashed as the avatar mesh gets on a child av.. who really wants to take their clothes off?

That said.. I'd avoid public nudist areas. Immy would probably be the perfect person to talk to, I'm sure she has a list of safe spaces along that sort of activity.

As for IMing the lindens.. you're only putting your actions under greater scrutiny by asking. There's an old saying, that it is always easier to ask forgiveness, than permission.

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Naked anyone including children is not against the ToS the last I heard unless you have a lurking pervert nearby who delights in AR'ing everyone he disagrees with.

uggggggh Hate to point it out, but you just described half of everyone in SL

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uhm texture baking don't work that way. (doesn't it?) is there really a tool to strip clothing back off an av from a remote client??? I don't think that's possible. I think you're worrying over a non issue.

http://secondtoys.googlepages.com/slnudemod is one example.

I also think it's unlikely to be an issue for kid avvies, but worth knowing about.

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All anyone would have to do is hit [Ctrl]+[Alt]+[Shift]+1... No special plugins needed. (^_^)

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Most nudist colony/nude beach owners, including myself, don't allow kid avs on our sims.

Thats just the way things are.

in these situations it often seem people are trying to prevent their asses from being jailed instead of thinking about the well being of minors...

..... because there are no minors involved. (^_^)y

exactly my point, there should be no reason to freak out and start discriminating and making non-sense rules and witch hunting and such

Truly... Our world, our imagination... But... Their servers, their rules. Do just enough and everything's okay. (^_^)y