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Chris Norse
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11-01-2007 12:17
From: Colette Meiji Realistically I wouldn't even AR someone if they told me they were involved in Sexual Age Play.
Id stop associating with them. But I'm not the arbiter of someone's rights. Supposedly its protected by the first amendment.
Ive spoken out against sexual ageplay. I don't like it. But I'm not going to be the neighborhood watch. And im definitely not going to spy on my neighbor.
Id AR someone who claimed to have child porn. Id probably get someone with concierge support to try to expedite that complaint.
Id Ar a minor who was working as an escort.
I wont be turning in people who have poseballs in their non-adult restricted land. I know people who have sex poseballs on their PG land and I didnt turn them in either. Ditto
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Chris Norse
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11-01-2007 12:18
From: Burnman Bedlam The rules are there for a reason. I absolutely would AR adult content in PG areas.
Nope, rules only exist to protect others from harm. Unless you can name a victim, then the rule is meant to be broken.
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Alyx Sands
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11-01-2007 12:19
From: Burnman Bedlam <snip> Interesting idea... an SL neighborhood watch... lol <snip> Where were you during the whole honkin' big "dob your neighbour"-discussion a while back? I still think it helps RL victims of child abuse ZIP that so-called journos trundle through SL on a "mission".
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Burnman Bedlam
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11-01-2007 12:25
From: Chris Norse Nope, rules only exist to protect others from harm. Unless you can name a victim, then the rule is meant to be broken. Actually... From: Community Standards 4. Indecency Second Life is an adult community, but Mature material is not necessarily appropriate in all areas (see Global Standards below). Content, communication, or behavior which involves intense language or expletives, nudity or sexual content, the depiction of sex or violence, or anything else broadly offensive must be contained within private land in areas rated Mature (M). Names of Residents, objects, places and groups are broadly viewable in Second Life directories and on the Second Life website, and must adhere to PG guidelines.
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Chris Norse
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11-01-2007 12:28
They can make their rules, doesn't mean I am gonna be a snitch for them. I could care less if a person has an adult pose ball in their home on PG land.
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Burnman Bedlam
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11-01-2007 12:31
From: Chris Norse They can make their rules, doesn't mean I am gonna be a snitch for them. I could care less if a person has an adult pose ball in their home on PG land. That's ok... there are other people who will report it if it bothers them. Though I will never understand why people are so weird about following the terms of service / code of conduct. /shrug
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Reitsuki Kojima
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11-01-2007 12:32
From: Burnman Bedlam Actually... Right. What Chris said.
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11-01-2007 12:34
From: Burnman Bedlam That's ok... there are other people who will report it if it bothers them. Though I will never understand why people are so weird about following the terms of service / code of conduct. /shrug Weird is bad. Frightening. Unsafe. We must all assimilate. assimilate annihilate destroy
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Colette Meiji
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11-01-2007 12:34
From: Burnman Bedlam That's ok... there are other people who will report it if it bothers them. Though I will never understand why people are so weird about following the terms of service / code of conduct. /shrug He didnt say he was going to put poseballs up in a PG area He said he wouldnt report it. Which Is what I said also. Where does it say you have to turn in people for breaking the rules?
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Brenda Connolly
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11-01-2007 12:34
From: Burnman Bedlam That's ok... there are other people who will report it if it bothers them. Though I will never understand why people are so weird about following the terms of service / code of conduct. /shrug I believe in ME following the code of conduct, but I don't think it is my responsibility to make sure YOU do.
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Har Fairweather
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11-01-2007 12:37
From: Chris Norse They can make their rules, doesn't mean I am gonna be a snitch for them. I could care less if a person has an adult pose ball in their home on PG land. Right on. PG = Parental Guidance. How do they suppose people get to be parents in RL and know all that stuff they're supposed to give guidance about? If it's indoors with the shades drawn, fits right into the PG principle, seems to me.
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Colette Meiji
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11-01-2007 12:44
From: Har Fairweather Right on. PG = Parental Guidance. How do they suppose people get to be parents in RL and know all that stuff they're supposed to give guidance about? If it's indoors with the shades drawn, fits right into the PG principle, seems to me. I wouldn't report people for having sex right in the road in a PG sim either. Id just keep walking.
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Colette Meiji
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11-01-2007 12:58
And now I have a Beatles song stuck in my head.
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Burnman Bedlam
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11-01-2007 13:00
From: Har Fairweather Right on. PG = Parental Guidance. How do they suppose people get to be parents in RL and know all that stuff they're supposed to give guidance about? If it's indoors with the shades drawn, fits right into the PG principle, seems to me. The explaination in the TOS/Community Standards for what constitutes PG is what you should go by.
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Chris Norse
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11-01-2007 13:05
Burnman, many of us use our own judgment as to what is a violation. I don't need LL or for that matter a collection of idiots in a state capital or Washington DC to tell me right from wrong or how to behave.
If no one is being harmed, I don't care what anyone does. If you (in general, not you personally) want to smoke crack and play with yourself while you look at pictures of goat sex. I don't care, it harms no one else.
Activity inside a person's home, even on a PG lot harms no one else. Sure the Lindens could ban the owner, but I am not gonna narc on them.
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Colette Meiji
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11-01-2007 13:07
From: Chris Norse Burnman, many of us use our own judgment as to what is a violation. I don't need LL or for that matter a collection of idiots in a state capital or Washington DC to tell me right from wrong or how to behave.
If no one is being harmed, I don't care what anyone does. If you (in general, not you personally) want to smoke crack and play with yourself while you look at pictures of goat sex. I don't care, it harms no one else.
Activity inside a person's home, even on a PG lot harms no one else. Sure the Lindens could ban the owner, but I am not gonna narc on them. I don't call the cops on people who I know smoke Pot either.
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Burnman Bedlam
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11-01-2007 13:10
From: Chris Norse Burnman, many of us use our own judgment as to what is a violation. I don't need LL or for that matter a collection of idiots in a state capital or Washington DC to tell me right from wrong or how to behave. You agreed to the TOS/CS when you signed up, if you are unable to follow them, then perhaps you should rethink your stay in SL. From: Chris Norse If no one is being harmed, I don't care what anyone does. If you (in general, not you personally) want to smoke crack and play with yourself while you look at pictures of goat sex. I don't care, it harms no one else. LL, the people who allow you to access their service, provides PG sims for people who would rather not watch goat sex. If you have an issue with that, stay in Mature sims. I am not offended by adult content, but I do believe in a time and place for everything... PG sims are not the place, anytime. From: Chris Norse Activity inside a person's home, even on a PG lot harms no one else. Sure the Lindens could ban the owner, but I am not gonna narc on them. That's your bag. I carry a different one. I have no issue AR'ing people who can't follow the terms and conditions they agreed to in order to access the service.
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Chris Norse
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11-01-2007 13:14
Burnman, why are you camming into some one else's home? How else are you going to see it if it is inside their home?
As for the TOS, it is a contract of adhesion, I follow my own conscience.
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Har Fairweather
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11-01-2007 13:21
From: Burnman Bedlam The explaination in the TOS/Community Standards for what constitutes PG is what you should go by. Your own judgment is what you should go by. (And of course you take into account TOS/CS rules. But if and when TOS/CS REQUIRES me to spy on and denounce my neighbors for basically harmless and innocent activities to some SLKGB is the moment when I go into permanent rebellion. And until then, if you do it, you are merely a busybody griefing your neighbors and wasting LL's time. After then, you would of course be an informer in a VR police state.)
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Burnman Bedlam
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11-01-2007 13:21
From: Chris Norse Burnman, why are you camming into some one else's home? How else are you going to see it if it is inside their home? I don't go looking for it, but if I come across it, I have no issue AR'ing people. I personally believe in following the rules put forth by the people who own and provide the service. From: Chris Norse As for the TOS, it is a contract of adhesion, I follow my own conscience. Actually... There have been multiple rulings in federal court declaring the EULA/TOS/CS a legally binding contract. Not that some of you care about that... lol
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Colette Meiji
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11-01-2007 13:22
From: Burnman Bedlam LL, the people who allow you to access their service, provides PG sims for people who would rather not watch goat sex. If you have an issue with that, stay in Mature sims. I am not offended by adult content, but I do believe in a time and place for everything... PG sims are not the place, anytime.
I wouldn't AR people for having Goat sex, in the road, in PG sims either
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Burnman Bedlam
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11-01-2007 13:23
From: Colette Meiji I wouldn't AR people for having Goat sex, in the road, in PG sims either There seems to be a lot you wouldn't do... I am getting an impression of the sorts of things you would do though. 
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Chris Norse
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11-01-2007 13:23
From: Burnman Bedlam I don't go looking for it, but if I come across it, I have no issue AR'ing people. I personally believe in following the rules put forth by the people who own and provide the service. Actually... There have been multiple rulings in federal court declaring the EULA/TOS/CS a legally binding contract. Not that some of you care about that... lol Just as many calling contracts of adhesion unenforcible. They are falling out of favor in many places not just in the US but around the world. Colette is a lady.
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Colette Meiji
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11-01-2007 13:24
From: Burnman Bedlam There seems to be a lot you wouldn't do... I am getting an impression of the sorts of things you would do though.  I wouldn't HAVE sex in a PG sim. But I wouldn't report it.
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Rene Erlanger
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11-01-2007 13:25
From: Burnman Bedlam You agreed to the TOS/CS when you signed up, if you are unable to follow them, then perhaps you should rethink your stay in SL. LL, the people who allow you to access their service, provides PG sims for people who would rather not watch goat sex. If you have an issue with that, stay in Mature sims. I am not offended by adult content, but I do believe in a time and place for everything... PG sims are not the place, anytime. That's your bag. I carry a different one. I have no issue AR'ing people who can't follow the terms and conditions they agreed to in order to access the service. You really need to get out more.......you remind me of some kind of nosey neighbour prying through curtains!
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