Sky News has a go at SL

Sky News produces Channel 5 news, so I imagine thats why - no mention on the BBC.

Must be a slow news day in the UK

Gomez

God. I could care less anymore about sexual ageplay. I'm sorry. If you think I can jump and become indignant every time this gets brought up. I mean .... screw it all... let them all go have fun. As long as they don't do it in a store or a public area where I might be around.

zomg pixel sex and midgets and baby jesus is crying.

fu*** hell - so much concern for children that dont exist. How insulting is that to children in rl being abused?

and if ageplay leads to pedophilia in rl then world of warcraft promotes murder in rl. You can not have it both ways.

Last time i checked the main grid was for adult only.

Stop treating us like children who dont know right from wrong in rl.

its a HUGE insult to every resident in Second Life.

Yups.



Oh, I know Sky News, I was goofin' with the piccie.

I was prob'ly not clear. A little under the weather today. I'm not saying there is "nothing wrong," because from anything I've been able to gather about the place, the stuff dat goes on there is the stuff SL has deemed broadly offensive, no matter what the age of those participating.

I hope dast's a bit clearer, maybe?

Mari

Just because the Sky news report is badly done and that is pointed out, it does not mean that this Wonderland place should be allowed to continue to operate.

Its against the LL ban, and it should be closed.

why? its pg There is no sex taking place in general chat, no depictions of it. Nothing. Doesnt make sense.

its so insulting to me as a survivor of rl child abuse to see them so indignant about ageplay when no one lifts a finger in rl to help real children

its hard for me not to resent people for that

Okay Ill make it conditional

if, as implied in the story, Child Avatar escorts are operating out of this place and if the place is a haven for sexual age players then it should be removed because of the Sexual Age Play ban.

As I've posted elsewhere...a child avi and a male giraffe can be standing right next to one another, humping happily away in IM's. Unless they decide to get visual...or use voice to start *UMPH*-ing way, no one's the wiser.

This is such a retarded and ridiculous concern. It boggles the mind.

I'm boggled. Boggledy-boggledy-boggled.

However, we do not know the people who are indignant do nothing to help real children, what we see on the forums is only a focus on the virtual due to the fact that SL is virtual.

It is true not nearly enough is done to help real children who endure RL abuse, and it rarely makes the news.

why? the owner can not control what residents do privately in ims or when they leave the parcel. She is following all the rules. There is nothin sexually depicted where anyone can even monitor it. You cant start banning everyone for what their patrons may or may not do in ims consentually or outside of the property. Thats crazy talk.


ps i dont think you are crazy Colette. Smart lady.

It's going to be closed down, there's no other alternative after a story like that. It's like a pub turning a blind eye to people doing drugs in the toilets, they're not going to be excused.

As for id verification, as it's so damn rubbish it would be completely counter productive for LL to start shouting about that now.

Was that Torley in the interview?

Investigative journalsts usually do their assignments in order to find fault. But there was a short series of Radio 4 BBC a few months ago by a guy who went into various virtual worlds. He devoted most attention to SL and generally reported favourably about the benefits it brought people although he did touch on possible abuse and fraud cases.

The criticisms levelled at SL apply equally to Google, Yahoo, YouTube - any open access site or world with a huge amount of user-created content.

In my early days in SL I had a look around other 'world' sites out of curiosity. One I found, but didn't go beyond the initial webpage, was devoted purely to virtual sex!

i do not see the justice in what you are saying.

Bad publicity and justice don't go hand in hand.

I have to agree with Ciarian.

If the place has banned activity escorts operating out of it, its going to get shut down.

No different than a bar IRL that has illegal call girls operating out of it.

Whether or not the management was endorsing it or not.

If the management had been the one's ARing the Sexual Ageplayers to LL, then it would be different.

But like Mari seemed to suggest people "knew" that there is kid av sex to be hired there.

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Of course even if no one had known anything the fact that it was a black eye for LL would get it shut down.

the best publicity is truth and the truth is that real children are not being abused through pixels on an adult grid. the real truth is that people are not acting out things with other consensual adults training to do it in rl. the truth is that an entire group of people are being persecuted in a virtual world over their THOUGHTS and wild assumptions are being made as to the nature of those thoughts or their modivations for those thoughts. the truth is anything based on lies will collapse sooner or later and the real truth is our collective intelligence as gamers shouldnt be insulted by these accusations when they are not even based in reality and no evidence exists to give it merit.

Don't expect any kind of accuracy or editorial fairness from Sky News. It's just Fox News with different colours and British accents.

In the story they seem to be disappointed when they admit the child av escort is probably a middle aged man, and then they go on to rationalize about virtual sexual age play being a training zone for real pedophiles.

They have 2 people who claim this. Their credentials are not mentioned, nor are their claims corroborated in any way, except by each other.

The "news" story really comes off editorializing.

Since LL need not prove this does happen to shut down Sexual Age Play in SL, such data isn't necessary.

However it is annoying when so-called experts make claims of fact that are really just speculation in support of a story that has the obvious motivation of just sensationalizing the story.

A lie can travel halfway around the world whilst the truth is still putting its shoes on.

Actually I have reported quite a few self admitted children in mature areas to LL. A few even bragged about engaging in 'pixel sex'. They tell me they are under 18 I report them and it has happened enough for me to be sure that yes children are on the main grid and at risk. You really have your head stuck in the ground if you think they aren't on the adult grid and certain adults aren't turning a blind eye to it and taking advantage of it.

Are any of them Sexual Age Players in the Child Av sense though?

No, but his/her post seemed to indicate that it was a lie that real children were being abused on the adult grid. I seriously doubt a kid would be playing a kid in SL.

Yeah i know not quite on topic, but it seemed appropriate for that one post.

Minors might be a better word than children. There is a lot of difference in a 10 year old and a 17 year old. No the 17 yo doesn't belong on the grid, but I wouldn't call that child sex.

no thats not what i meant