So I've just checked my account page and my tier fees have increased because I now have to pay value added tax.
Did anyone get a blog annoucnement or a message about this?
Welcome to the Second Life Forums Archive
These forums are CLOSED. Please visit the new forums HERE
Tier fees increased by tax |
|
|
Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
|
09-27-2007 12:11
|
|
Walker Moore
Fоrum Unregular
Join date: 14 May 2006
Posts: 1,458
|
09-27-2007 12:13
So I've just checked my account page and my tier fees have increased because I now have to pay value added tax. Did anyone get a blog annoucnement or a message about this?  _____________________
It's only a forum, no one dies.
|
|
Walker Moore
Fоrum Unregular
Join date: 14 May 2006
Posts: 1,458
|
09-27-2007 12:15
https://secure-web1.secondlife.com/corporate/vat.php
In accordance with the sales tax regulations of European Union countries in which our Residents live, we must collect and remit Value Added Tax, or VAT, from Residents. Who should be charged VAT? Currently, only Residents who live in the European Union are charged VAT. The EU allows people and companies to register for VAT exemption, which we abide by. How does Linden Lab determine who to charge VAT for? When you registered your account, you told us what country you live in. If that country is in the EU, then VAT is applied. If you say that you come from a different country that doesn't charge VAT, it's very likely that discrepancies between your IP address and your declared country would get caught in our risk detection system and may cause your account to be flagged for review or even suspended. What are the items for which Linden Lab charges VAT? Anything that you pay Linden Lab for will have VAT applied. This includes:
How can I tell what items had VAT charged? Your account history page will display the transactions you made and the VAT charged on each one, if applicable. I have a VAT registration ID that makes me exempt from VAT. How do I enter it? If you're registering for a new account, there's a step where you can enter your VAT registration ID. If you have an existing account for which you want to enter your VAT registration ID, click here to enter it. Basically it just got 17.5% more expensive to use Second Life for anybody living in Europe. _____________________
It's only a forum, no one dies.
|
|
Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
|
09-27-2007 12:17
I assumed I was paying the relevant taxes already, this is the first time I've been charged this, I hope I'm not going to get back charged.
The very least they could have done was to tell me this was coming. |
|
Brenda Connolly
Un United Avatar
Join date: 10 Jan 2007
Posts: 25,000
|
09-27-2007 12:18
So is that this week's Weekend Linden Sandbagging?
_____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com |
|
Avacea Fasching
Certified
Join date: 23 Dec 2005
Posts: 481
|
09-27-2007 12:22
you have a 17.5% "Sales Tax" in the EU ???? but you must not have income tax then, right? just curious...
_____________________
post spelling was checked using - Speak & Spell
|
|
Walker Moore
Fоrum Unregular
Join date: 14 May 2006
Posts: 1,458
|
09-27-2007 12:23
I assumed I was paying the relevant taxes already, this is the first time I've been charged this, I hope I'm not going to get back charged. The very least they could have done was to tell me this was coming. Premium accounts have just become about £7 UK pounds more expensive. Own private islands? Your tier just increased by $52 dollars a month for each island you own. When I buy stuff from American companies, I pay tax according to the laws of the state receiving the money. This is undoubtedly happening because they decide to accept payments in Brighton (UK) without thinking through the consequences. Assholes. _____________________
It's only a forum, no one dies.
|
|
NeatTrick Nixdorf
Registered User
Join date: 25 Aug 2007
Posts: 12
|
09-27-2007 12:25
you have a 17.5% "Sales Tax" in the EU ???? but you must not have income tax then, right? just curious... Yes we have Income Tax as well. |
|
Walker Moore
Fоrum Unregular
Join date: 14 May 2006
Posts: 1,458
|
09-27-2007 12:25
you have a 17.5% "Sales Tax" in the EU ???? but you must not have income tax then, right? just curious... _____________________
It's only a forum, no one dies.
|
|
Pocket Pfeffer
Vide Cor Meum
Join date: 19 May 2007
Posts: 586
|
Jaysus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
09-27-2007 12:26
I couldn't believe it when I read this, I had no idea that this was about to hit the EU Residents.. Myself being one such resident, I am extrememly P***ed off! What a bloody week this has been. First of all, cigarrettes have gone up, which now makes them almost 10 US$ a pack, and now this. For me, the two have some similarities..
No matter how much cigs go up in price,I'm still gonna buy them,still going to smoke them I suppose the same is true of SL,even though the expense has risen, I don't think it will stop me from being there.... But surely some warning should have been given to everyone, and if it was and I missed it, then I apologise..... AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGG |
|
Brenda Connolly
Un United Avatar
Join date: 10 Jan 2007
Posts: 25,000
|
09-27-2007 12:27
Yes, I agree. Premium accounts have just become about £7 UK pounds more expensive. Own private islands? Your tier just increased by $52 dollars a month for each island you own. When I buy stuff from American companies, I pay tax according to the laws of the state receiving the money. This is undoubtedly happening because they decide to accept payments in Brighton (UK) without thinking through the consequences. Assholes. Is it really surprising, though. how many decisions have they made and implemented without considering the impact or announcing it properly. _____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com |
|
Raymond Figtree
Gone, avi, gone
Join date: 17 May 2006
Posts: 6,256
|
09-27-2007 12:27
Two things:
1) another huge hit to an already hurting SL economy 2) Their method of communicating vital policy changes to us SUCKS! Shame on you, Linden Lab. _____________________
Read or listen to some Eckhart Tolle. You won't regret it.
|
|
Walker Moore
Fоrum Unregular
Join date: 14 May 2006
Posts: 1,458
|
09-27-2007 12:28
Just in case nobody realises, this is the sky is falling thread for weeks to come.
 I'm a bit pissed TBH, but I'll just sell up and go if it works out too expensive. I already thought prices were borderline. Shit will fly if they try to backdate the tax charges. I'm pretty sure law requires them to indicate if sales tax is NOT being applied if they're processing payments in the UK. _____________________
It's only a forum, no one dies.
|
|
Sling Trebuchet
Deleted User
Join date: 20 Jan 2007
Posts: 4,548
|
09-27-2007 12:29
*sigh* Thanks for that. It would have been 'nice' if LL had blogged/emailed it.
Well I've just entered my VAT# - Ohhhhh! Guess I must be an adult then!!!! My account month has just ticked over, so I suppose they've slapped on the VAT. At the risk of appearing a tad negative:- ... LL !!!! WTF... Can you get *anything* even half-right????? |
|
Alicia Sautereau
if (!social) hide;
Join date: 20 Feb 2007
Posts: 3,125
|
09-27-2007 12:30
think i`ll call this the final drop in the BS bucket, no announcements or warnings or what so ever
if i get a vat transaction for money allready in the LL$ account or trough paypal, i`m going to contribute to the problem and get rid of everything, go basic and stuff my inventory with 2million items |
|
Sensual Casanova
Spoiled Brat
Join date: 28 Feb 2004
Posts: 4,807
|
09-27-2007 12:31
We pay 17.5% in the UK. It might be a little less in some European countries. We do pay income tax and from a European POV, I know the rate is much lower here than in Italy because I worked over there briefly and couldn't believe how much was (quite legally) being deducted from my wage .. but I think they do pay less sales tax. All I can say is 17.5%??? OMFG! _____________________
|
|
Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
|
09-27-2007 12:32
All I can say is 17.5%??? OMFG! There's no need to rub salt into wounds  I couldn't believe how cheap sales tax was in the US, although adding it on at the till is confusing! |
|
Sensual Casanova
Spoiled Brat
Join date: 28 Feb 2004
Posts: 4,807
|
09-27-2007 12:34
There's no need to rub salt into wounds I couldn't believe how cheap sales tax was in the US, although adding it on at the till is confusing!oops my bad  _____________________
|
|
JessyAnne Theas
Cliqueless
Join date: 9 May 2007
Posts: 610
|
09-27-2007 12:35
All I can say is 17.5%??? OMFG! I second that! I have a finished basement here in the US... I could rent it to you for less than you pay for friggin tax! _____________________
|
|
Alicia Sautereau
if (!social) hide;
Join date: 20 Feb 2007
Posts: 3,125
|
09-27-2007 12:36
I second that! I have a finished basement here in the US... I could rent it to you for less than you pay for friggin tax! /me gets tempted as the EU SUCKS!!! |
|
Raymond Figtree
Gone, avi, gone
Join date: 17 May 2006
Posts: 6,256
|
Once again it comes without warning!!
09-27-2007 12:36
So I've just checked my account page and my tier fees have increased because I now have to pay value added tax. Did anyone get a blog annoucnement or a message about this? Message? Announcement? Ha! Even though this will probably end up helping people like me who rent mainland to residents, I am sickened by how this is all going down. Only a matter of time before I wake up one day to see I have been driven out of SL by some sort of buried-in-the-website policy change. The way they run this company is outrageous. _____________________
Read or listen to some Eckhart Tolle. You won't regret it.
|
|
Lexxi Gynoid
#'s 86000, 97800
Join date: 6 Aug 2007
Posts: 3,732
|
09-27-2007 12:36
All I can say is 17.5%??? OMFG! Yes, wow. I think mine is something like 5% . . . it's been awhile since I last looked, though. Actually it was 4.5% last time I looked, but I assume it is at least 5% now. _____________________
Her Royal Highness Buttercup Meow the XXI
|
|
Denise Bonetto
Registered User
Join date: 31 Jan 2007
Posts: 705
|
09-27-2007 12:39
It would have been nice to be warned of this before it was implimented having only just purchased land this month to the amount I have worked out I can cover via sales.
So I assume now that I am paying 17.5% VAT, $L are now real currency? I don't pay my tier via credit card or PayPal, I pay it via inworld sales. _____________________
 |
|
Sensual Casanova
Spoiled Brat
Join date: 28 Feb 2004
Posts: 4,807
|
09-27-2007 12:39
Yes, wow. I think mine is something like 5% . . . it's been awhile since I last looked, though. Actually it was 4.5% last time I looked, but I assume it is at least 5% now. 3.62% for general sales tax _____________________
|
|
Walker Moore
Fоrum Unregular
Join date: 14 May 2006
Posts: 1,458
|
09-27-2007 12:40
Is it really surprising, though. how many decisions have they made and implemented without considering the impact or announcing it properly. I've dumped all my land before and hardly logged in for months due to ridiculous policy decisions .. but this one is different than any other. It hits me in the pocket very directly, but nowhere near as much as it's gonna hit some of my friends. I find it very difficult to _like_ Linden Lab at times like this, and I know sky is falling threads are fun because they tend to distort things out of all proportion, but I think if they don't offer deductions to European customers, you could find masses of people just dropping out. I have two annual premium accounts and some mainland besides, and can say with certainty that I will not have them this time next year. I might still be in game because maybe I'll find something suitable on a private island (never say never and all that).. but who knows how this will play out .. and what will happen next? It just gets tiring. Too tiring to bother with to be frank. I'm not going to get an ulcer screaming at the idiotic people in charge of this platform when I can just close the application and forget about it. _____________________
It's only a forum, no one dies.
|
