Taking sl too seriously

SL is just like rl but its done in a game. But some people really get their real life feelings involved and won't let go althought it's a game.

I began over a year ago and back then I met someone who I dated for less then 3 days. In less then 3 days I saw how obesses this person was. Back then you were able to map people and she would constantly follow me, or she'd send me messages saying why you dancing with so and so. I would asked her how she knew and it was cause she'd followed me there.
That first day we got on Yahoo but she wouldn't get off. I didn't want to be rude to her so I talked to her but finally I couldn't take it and I left. The next day she again asks to Yahoo and I made up an excuse not to and I didn't. Finally, I had had enough and told her no more but it's been hell ever since.

A year later she's still seeking out anyone I'm with to send them IM's that I'm using them and that I'm doing this and that.
Why can't this person just let go already? It's not like we was together for along time. I should of known back then as I was warned by someone the very first day I was with this other person. She told me this person was a pyscho and she was right.

What's wrong with these people? I understand you can easily get your rl feelings mixed in sl but c'mon now, enough is enough.

learned long ago some people can hold grudges forever. I have a guy has me on permanent ban cause he hated my "ugly builds" when I was new and learning to build apparently i'm messy and disgusting or something i dunno but people can be pretty funny. I would just ignore it and tell your friends its a year old grudge and someone is not capable of forgetting stuff

Hi I think the, "Sl is just a game, why are they doing this?" is the wrong way to look at it. While Sl may be a 'game' to some, we are not interacting with just computers- There are real people with real emotions playing the game.

I always say there are not marital problems, rather individual problems brought into the marriage. And I think this is along the same line- People are bringing their personal problems into SL.

For some reason when I joined I thought it would be like a new life. But it isnt and I was naive to think so. There are drama kings and queens, psychos, bitter people, rude people, angry people, cocky people- Every negative attribute in RL, is brought here into Sl..and at some point you will experience it.


Anyway, I have had 0 luck with ARs but have you ARd this person yet? You may want to give it a try for harrassment

The woman in question is clearly mentally ill. There is no point in trying to understand why she acts this way. And though it may be hard when you are on the receiving end of her crazy behavior, you really should pity her. And be VERY thankful she doesn't know how to find you in real life.

She will eventually latch onto someone else and leave you alone. Instead of just running away tell her upfront what your comfortable with in thi ssituation. Make sure she understands and agrees. And then you find out what she is comfortable with.Respecting each other's comfort level is a RL and SL concept.

And when that does not work it's time to forget about being "rude". Just tell her flat out that you do not want any contact what so ever with her. Tell her why in plain English (if that's the language she understands). Then completely ignore her. Do not allow her to see when you are online. Remove her from your friends list. If you receive an IM ignore it (do not close it because that will show you are online). Reject any offers of friendship or notecards. If she finds you by chance publically tell her you do not want to talk to her........don't do it in IM. And if she persists............AR her and tell her you are doing so. Again, in open chat.

Some people need that to get the point. Evidently she is such a person.

And some wonder why we want to protect our RL identities.

..or you could be really sick and offer to introduce her to someone 'very compatable' with her (meanwhile fire up your ALT) introduce her to this 'friend' who suddenly will only exist in SL for a couple days.Ach!

..or forget the Alt and the revenge and matchmake her with a genuine OC type compatable AV?

SL is not a game

look at the structure of a game, you start off with basic tools you need to survive
then you have to level up, learn and earn your way up the ranks " skill up " as to speak,
reach certain goals and follow the path of the story.

SL has none of the above, we all start off with the same tools there are no goals to reach
and no leveling up to do, and there is no set storyline you do exactly what you want when you want how you want, it is a Second Life a virtual world would be a better way of describing it.


many peopel come here for escape from their real lifes, maybe they are lonely or have dissabillities and SL gives them a chance to meet peopel and interact with others and generally taking the stress away from RL.


i think users often forget we are all RL people with feelings and emotions, not just pixels on a screen.

Sure it does. You start off with the basic tools to start playing; help island is there to teach you. You walk through the steps and learn how to create and adjust your avatar, and how to build, and the basics of scripting. And then you are thrust into the world. Levelling up is basically another way of looking at your ability to create things, script, design clothing/skin/tattoos, fix your avatar up how you want it, or do any other number of things you do while you are playing.

Look, it's still a game. Second Life is just that, a game. It's a game with real people playing it - lots of real people, with real emotions and feelings. Because people are real, but the avatars are not, it sometimes feels skewed. It's skewed even further when people start identifying with their avatars as much as they do with their real selves. A person's avatar becomes as much a part of them as say their big toe. It's connected to them somehow, so the lines between game and real become further blurred.

Still a game, just a game with real people, and real feelings and emotions. Hard not to take it seriously at times with it like that.

Then again, all I see SL as is an overglorified flashy version of IRC.

no sorry your wrong Broken lol

everyone in SL has the same features as everyone else, make an alt up do you have to go through help island again or learn the scripting language again ?

no one starts off with basic tools everyone starts off with the same tools as everyone else, there is just a learning curve as there is with most things in life





if SL is just a flashy IRC are you saying IRC is a game also ?

I am an alt, when I was made, I appeared at Help Island again, yes. I could have walked through it again, if I felt like it, but I chose not to at the time. Yes, everyone has the same tools, but the same is for WoW, or Horizons, or SWG, or City of Heroes. When you make a character, say in WoW, you make a specific race, and then make another account, the same race, you appear at the same place, and you pick the same class, wow, you have the same things to learn again. It's exactly the same. There are things to do, and things to learn how to do, and there are plenty of places you can go to learn how to do them. How is this not a game? Real people playing a game, feeling emotions, even emotions for other people, like I feel for my friends, or for my girlfriend, does not negate the fact that you are still playing a game.

Peggy Paperdoll is nothing but pixels on a screen. I'm not though. The difference is simple............someone "falling in love" or as it seems this woman is doing obsessing over the pixels on a screen has a huge problem. They certainly are not falling in love with me or obsessing over me.......they are focused on something that completely disappears when I log off and turn my computer off. Game or no game........it's failing to face reality. SL is not real.........it's all make believe.

It's more s game than anything else........that is closer the a true definition than a virtual life or whatever you want to spiffy it up with. People play games........and most people know when it's a game. Those who don't are headed for some problems in this Second Life game.

the difference with a game such as wow is you HAVE to level up you cant just do what ever you want as soon as you enter the game, in SL an alt can do the same as someone who has been in here a couple of years, just because you start at help island that doesnt mean anything you just teleport out and carry on as normal

a few interesting links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_world

Not every game in the world requires you to level up. Hell, there are even games out there with no clear objectives much like this one. Just because a game doesn't have "levels" doesn't mean it's not a game. Taken from dictionary.com;



Last I checked, Second Life is defined as a computerized game played using a keyboard to manipulate changes or respond to the action or questions on the screen.


Taken from wikipedia;



Second Life is a game. Whether or not the feelings are real does not negate it from being so, it just means it's a game where people feel things. La dee da.

Right on one of your own links, from wikipedia concerning game;



It's semi-structured. Especially in the beginning, you are prompted to walk through help-island to learn the basics. After that, you are cut loose to roam and do as you please, but that is not much different than say, Oblivion, where you can do anything you want, and finish the game on the first day if you choose.

I believe most everyone who plays Second Life, plays, for enjoyment. Educational tool? Most certainly. I've seen it used as an educational tool often. It's being used right now to help Autistic children, and IBM has used it more than once for their teaching classes, as an aide.

No, there are a lot of things that do not apply, but you are playing, you have a virtual representation, and it's termed a game. I'm not negating the importance of it, socially. It's a tool as much as it is a game, but it's still a game, whether or not you put your feelings into it.

Because people control avatars and people aren't robots.

"A game is a structured or semi-structured activity, usually undertaken for enjoyment and sometimes also used as an educational tool."

SL has no structure lol, the only reason help island is there is because there is no manual to read and it explains how to use SL, you can skip that part just the same as not bothering to read a manual, in a game you HAVE to follow the path in order to level up / gain more skill in SL its all availible to everyone as soon as they make an account and they are not required to go through help island

Right from SL's own wiki page;

"It is a semi-structured virtual environment where characters undertake activities for the purpose of personal enjoyment."


Hmm, really? It's right off it's own wiki? I wonder who let that get in there, some griefer must've put that there!! /sarcasm.

Broken your loosing it lol

your just argueing for the sake of it now



"What is Second Life?

Second Life is a 3-D virtual world entirely built and owned by its residents. Since opening to the public in 2003, it has grown explosively and today is inhabited by a total of 8,084,354 Residents from around the globe.

* From the moment you enter the World you'll discover a vast digital continent, teeming with people, entertainment, experiences and opportunity. Once you've explored a bit, perhaps you'll find a perfect parcel of land to build your house or business.

* You'll also be surrounded by the Creations of your fellow residents. Because residents retain the rights to their digital creations, they can buy, sell and trade with other residents.

* The Marketplace currently supports millions of US dollars in monthly transactions. This commerce is handled with the in-world unit-of-trade, the Linden dollar, which can be converted to US dollars at several thriving online Linden Dollar exchanges.

Welcome to Second Life. We look forward to seeing you in-world."


note the use of virtual world and the omission of game in LL's own description ?



think we better agree to disagree as this isnt really helping the OP

They can call it whatever they want, it's their product. It's how they market it, it's still a game, to me. This is a disputed subject across the board, and I am not arguing for the sake of arguing, or "losing it." I have an opinion, that Second Life is a game, and you have another. To me, it will always be a game.

A game with feeling, yes. But a game none the less. There's enough "evidence" to support either claim, leaving it up to the individual to decide whether or not it is a game, though I tend to believe there is more evidence suggesting it is a game, than isn't. You know, the big one being that you actually PLAY it.

entertainment product

there can we stfu and get back on subject plz

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(deleted my entry, nevermind. Whatever, lol.)

I like to think of it using the angle that a lot of us 34,000 people here in SL, probably are better being kept from wandering the streets in RL