My short lived ban from Second Life.

It works every time.

can i shout at you too?

SHE WAS PERFECTLY RIGHT YOU <insert some word here>.

who types those words? some magic bot? sorry but she hit the nail right on the head and you don't like it. let me explain that to you....YOU DON'T LIKE IT

did the caps work for you?

kkthxbai

It does matter who has written a message and the messenger is just as important as the message. The ONLY REASON for using an alt to post an attack is because the person using the alt is a coward. They don't want to face up to the consequences of what they have written.

Yes, these names are just pixels and computer data. But in interacting with others we do build reputations. Those pixels and computer data are how we recognize one another when we do relate. The ONLY REASON for using an alt to post an attack is because the person using the alt is a coward. They don't want to face up to the consequences of what they have written.

Says the landbot that made a living by ripping off people that made mistakes listing there land.

You'll notice that the people who have the biggest issues with me in Second Life are people that rip off residents, and ad farmers because I was so against both issues. Good thing I never wanted approval from people like that.

So his opinion isn't worth enough to him to stand up for it? Even if it means loss? Calling him a coward is calling a spade a spade. But the truth hurts. The messenger is just as important as the message. Hiding behind an alt to express an unpopular opinion shows a lack of integrity.

No dear, she is delusional ... and so are you.

Respond to me when you've managed to yank your head out of the fantasy world you live in: You know, the one where someone gets verbally hung for delivering a message using what amounts to a proxy.

-yawn- said like a truly delusional and quite quaint reminder of why wars are started and why humanity as a whole is screwed.

Wake me up when you're more reasonable ... and for that matter when you're no longer living this fantasy where, somehow, a person needs to follow your own codes of 'honor' or 'courage'.

You know, you have a really funny idea of what other people think of avatars. You actually believe people think that bunk you spout about how they are their avatar and their avatars are real?

I'll focus on the cowardly alt messenger if I wish, thank you; his message sucks anyway.

And hey - you owe me $L762 now in royalty fees for the use of CocoCaps (tm).

coco

Most wars are started over scarce resources.

Honor and courage are what make us civilized.

One of your pals seems to think so, and for that mater the way I see people acting fairly screams it.

You owe me your soul .... presuming you breathe air.

Translation? I don't understand a word of any of what you are getting at there.

coco

Um, no.

'Honor' and 'courage' may separate us from the beasts to a degree, but they do NOT make us 'civilized'.

'Honor' starts quite a few wars: 'courage' used as an excuse by many to throw their lives away. Yep, some good has come of this, but don't pretend that such concepts make us 'civilized'.

If we were truly 'civilized' ... well now, we wouldn't have many wars now would we?

you are lucky so many ppl know you my friend was baned and his account deleted
and he never even swore...

As long as we have those without honor we will have wars. A man with honor can seal a deal with a handshake. Others need signed contracts. A man with honor will stand by his words, for good or ill. Others will sneak and sulk in the shadows casting their barbs out at their betters. Without honor you can not have integrity. Without honor you can not be trusted.

Tell us Solar, if your word is no good, why should anyone trust you? If you won't do what you say when you say it, how can you be civilized?

Do you have nothing you would sacrifice your life to defend? No principles you hold dear?

-yawns- Let me see, my friends and family. That's it.

As far as a person's word or actions as you have described them are concerned .... that is not 'honor' Chris.

Go and study the way Honor has been seen over the centuries and you will see the sort I am talking about. 'Honor' can start a duel, it can start an argument, a fist fight, a war. 'Courage' of the same sort walks hand in hand with 'Honor', allowing someone to be essentially browbeat into these situations.

I personally do not like the current use of Honor and Courage: nor have I ever liked the historical type either.

Trust .... is just that. it is based on Reputation and other factors.

even in more modern times, the very concept of Honor has sparked Wars. even the most current war .... on a TACTIC of war no less!

If you wish to speak of 'Honor' and 'Courage', do so in a more relevant setting. At the end of the day, these words you read are coming from a source that you really do not know. The Internet is the ultimate tool for anonymity: There is no way short of a web cam to know who is really on the other side. even then, you have no way of knowing if they are showing their true face to you. for the vast majority of people using the internet, the concepts you hold so dear do not apply.

As I have said: It is more the message that should be looked at in a place like this: Not the Messenger. Just because a person decides to use a different name, possibly to avoid dealing with the backlash (I have done this myself - I have enough stress and drama off line) ... well, to be blunt, this does not invalidate their opinion. There are more important things in this world than the Honor of an individual or even a country.

And a man with honour will challenge another man to a duel because of it. That's what duels were about in times past - honour. It hasn't changed at all since those times, except that the duels are a little different. The words "honour" and "civilised" are not different aspects of the same thing.

So I'm completely not getting why, if in your mind YOUR. AVATAR. IS. NOT. YOU. IT. IS. NOT. AN. EXTENSION. OF. YOURSELF. IT. IS. NOT. REAL.

Why do you feel the emotional need to protect yourself behind an alt? Why do you purposely and consciously alter your "personality" to protect your human from harassment?

If your avatar weren't an extension of yourself, you shouldn't need any such protection, huh? Your avatar should be made of steel and nothing that was said to it or done to it should matter.

But to you it obviously must, or you wouldn't feel the need for the alt, right?

Help me understand.

When you talk to someone on the telephone do you act as if who they are doesn't matter because the telephone mouthpiece isn't them? Because the telephone is just a mass of metal and plastic?
Well, actually, it does. Look up "sock puppet" and "astroturfing".

Yes Sarah, the people who have the biggest issues with you are the ones that had to face your harassment and viciousness. The ones who had to suffer through your constant attempts to destroy their business. The ones who got tired of your underhand, scheming attempts to protect your own ass and save your antiquated business model at the expense of others.

A farmer was riding in his wagon, with his dog at his side. He began to hit the horse to make it go faster. The horse stopped in it's tracks, turned to the farmer and said "Don't hit me". Stunned, the farmer said aloud "I didn't know a horse could talk".

"Neither did I." said the dog.

Yeah that's true in a world where actual common sense rules the way humans behave Brenda. Instead usually emotions & "programming" decide peoples reactions.

Before I even got time to sign up for SL, I worked for an ISP start-up here in Chicago as the Tech Support Regional Supervisor, and the attitude was very similar to LL, towards customers.

...sometimes I sympathize with certain employees for this reason, having seen it as a worker in a company where the top echelon ain't exactly business "geniuses", and the workers knew more about how to fix problems than them...but we weren't allowed to implement most of our ideas, which the CEO told me in retrospect (I was the final payroll employee when they went under) was "completely irresposible".

If a customer said "FU (our company)" in a conference...unless they paid so much monthly that they were literally keeping us from going under, the company probably would have cancelled the account, and never let the customer sign up again.

LL is still a company... this is thier business, this forum, the Grid... "right" and "wrong" have a miniscule (more like microscopic) place in business.

I guess I could have save a lot of typing by just saying, "look at the world we live in, what do you expect?". Given the fact that I haven't watched TV since around the time Bush was first elected 8 years ago, maybe I see things different. Why folks expect common courtesy or any decent treatment whatsoever these days is beyond me.

Pie dear ... it's simple enough to 'understand' if you bothered to read a few other posts.

A simple concept: I have enough drama off line. I do not need some little nit reading something I have written and getting it into their head to harass me when I log in to check my messages or mail.

Oh yes: There are also times I simply do not want to be bothered. Ever had someone IM you the very second you log into a service? I have quite a few of those types. There are days where I'll respond, and then there are days I don't want to deal with them.

That has nothing at all to do with my statement either.

Now then: Are you done being so dense as to assume what was not said?

Irrelevant, the telephone does not create a false, visual image that vanishes after you hang up the phone. A video phone shows the person on the other end as they are at that moment and is also, irrelevant.



And your point is ... ?

Welcome to the Internet Argent: Shit happens.