Strange person in my house
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Ricardo Harris
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Join date: 1 Apr 2006
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09-03-2007 14:36
From: Nic Writer Ouch. I'm glad it was not your land I accidentally teleported into the other day. I was sorting through old LMs, and I believe the one I followed had been for a store - but when I popped in, it was into the middle of a house the owner was building at the time.
The first thing I did was to type, "Sorry - old LM." The second was to TP home. The third was to delete the obviously outdated LM. But I would have hated to have been orbited for an honest mistake... If you've gone thru' the hassle and garbage I been thru' you'd understand why I am the way I am when it comes to my land. I have over 40 people banned from my place in a very short period and this doesn't count the many others I didn't ban. Back then I was nice about it but after a while I get fed up especially when the owner of the gay mall on my sim decides to use under-handed tactics to get me to either sell or give up my land to him. And no way would I ever let anyone bully me into doing anything I don't want to do. The thing is just about everyone I have ejected and banned is associated with this damn mall. Besides, I don't have the time or the inclination is ask where they're from, I consider all intruders alike.
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Ann Launay
Neko-licious™
Join date: 8 Aug 2006
Posts: 7,893
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09-03-2007 15:04
From: Chris Norse Are you the owner of the land or the group that owns the land? If so you can eject and ban anyone who bothers you on your land. Or even if they DON'T actually bother you...apparently a shop owner somewhere decided to eject someone for being in Busy mode, and then banned and muted her for questioning it. 
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Diomedes Nikolaidis
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Join date: 18 Mar 2007
Posts: 13
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09-03-2007 15:06
Seems last night was a wierd one for SL, what with the Kenny blob, another thread talking about an avi crashing sims, and me being attacked by - and I am not making this up - 9 volt Duracell Coppertop batteries with numerous lightning bolts flashing from them (SL accepting product placement now)? I was frozen in place, only being able to turn left or right. Crashed twice and the sim went down twice and kept me logged off for a few minutes each. I actually think it was being restarted purposely to clear the griefers. Questions: would having a security orb have helped and, would having visitors' scripts turned off have helped. I was also having trouble TP'ing anywhere. Thanks for suggestions.
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ArchTx Edo
Mystic/Artist/Architect
Join date: 13 Feb 2005
Posts: 1,993
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09-03-2007 15:23
You can get a decent basic "Black Box Security Sytem" here at Power Products Inc., Abydos (71, 139, 27), FOR ONLY L$1.
It works fine on privatly owned land, does not work on group owned land.
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Rioko Bamaisin
Unstable Princess
Join date: 16 Aug 2007
Posts: 4,668
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09-03-2007 16:03
From: Chris Norse Rioko, unless you are in a combat sim, don't orbit people. Are you the owner of the land or the group that owns the land? If so you can eject and ban anyone who bothers you on your land. This is "legal' and won't get you in trouble. But if you orbit someone in a non combat sim, you can be AR'd and get a suspension from SL. If you need some help using your land tools, IM me in world and I will show you how to use them. Oh I don't want to orbit or bother anyone,I just keep hearing about it. So thought I would ask. I figured out the land tools today.  I wish I knew how to use them the other night though,lol. Thanks. 
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Rioko Bamaisin
Unstable Princess
Join date: 16 Aug 2007
Posts: 4,668
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09-03-2007 16:03
From: Har Fairweather Heh, I sometimes forget there are people who haven't been orbited. Some weapon systems, notably ones with "cages," will forcibly teleport your avatar to a great distance. Often, your avatar finds itself dangling in the graphic for outer space, and the elevation can be measured in the millions, or even billions, of meters. This means you cannot really just fly back; you have to teleport or relog. Some orbiters will also deform the appearance of your avatar and may affect scripts on attachments, and to get rid of these effects it is necessary to relog and perhaps replace the affected attachments from your inventory. The indignation mainly comes from being subjected to an unprovoked attack, usually without warning, and to the obviously intentional disrespect conveyed by the attack. Indignation is that much greater when you are interrupted doing something you need to concentrate on (like building) or which you attach importance to (like perhaps an intimate moment with a partner). Griefers evidently take malicious delight in doing this; many people take great exception to being a griefer's punching bag. Attacks can be thwarted by sitting on an object and remaining there, but if you want to be doing anything that requires standing or moving and instead must sit because of someone else's petty malice, that obviously thwarts your intention too. Best thing IMO: Work on making SL so inhospitable to griefers they want to vent their childish hostilities somewhere else. I just don't get it.(griefers) Thanks for answering my noob question. 
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Rioko Bamaisin
Unstable Princess
Join date: 16 Aug 2007
Posts: 4,668
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09-03-2007 16:08
From: ArchTx Edo You can get a decent basic "Black Box Security Sytem" here at Power Products Inc., Abydos (71, 139, 27), FOR ONLY L$1. It works fine on privatly owned land, does not work on group owned land. Yeah I would need a group one. Can't seem to find one. Wish i could buy that one though for only $1L. 
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Morwen Bunin
Everybody needs a hero!
Join date: 8 Dec 2005
Posts: 1,743
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09-03-2007 16:48
From: Ricardo Harris Some people don't mind intruders, I hate them and I'll orbit them each and every time. I don't want excuses, you're where you're not suppose to be, where you're not wanted then you have to pay a price for doing so. Excuses don't count and I've heard many such as I wanted to be friends or I came to see your land. The day will arrive very quickly that some will report you for orbitting... your land or not. I know I would fill an report against you. And if you don't want to hear it or it. That will happen as soon you orbit someone who kniows it illegal. Morwen.
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Morwen Bunin
Everybody needs a hero!
Join date: 8 Dec 2005
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09-03-2007 16:55
From: Ricardo Harris Some people don't mind intruders, I hate them and I'll orbit them each and every time. I don't want excuses, you're where you're not suppose to be, where you're not wanted then you have to pay a price for doing so. Excuses don't count and I've heard many such as I wanted to be friends or I came to see your land.
I don't want to hear it, plain and simple. I hope you have your on damage enabled, if not the day will very soon arrive that someone reports you for orbitting.... I would be first to do so. One has to love people with compassion... /sarcasm off Morwen.
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Jillian Callahan
Rotary-winged Neko Girl
Join date: 24 Jun 2004
Posts: 3,766
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09-03-2007 17:05
From: Morwen Bunin I hope you have your on damage enabled, if not the day will very soon arrive that someone reports you for orbitting.... I would be first to do so. One has to love people with compassion... /sarcasm off Morwen. Piffle. It has nothing to do with compassion. He's just being territorial and using the idea that he's been greifed as an excuse to weild a little brutal power over hapless passerby. I mean really, it's SL, virtual world. It's not like life and property were under threat by these roving bands of ruffians. It's easy enough to kindly let folks know they've stayed from land open to visitors and even to eject them from your land without resorting to such vulgar methods.
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Ricardo Harris
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Join date: 1 Apr 2006
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09-03-2007 17:37
From: Morwen Bunin I hope you have your on damage enabled, if not the day will very soon arrive that someone reports you for orbitting.... I would be first to do so.
One has to love people with compassion... /sarcasm off
Morwen. Guess you didn't read my second post as to why I do this.
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Ricardo Harris
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09-03-2007 18:03
From: Jillian Callahan Piffle. It has nothing to do with compassion. He's just being territorial and using the idea that he's been greifed as an excuse to weild a little brutal power over hapless passerby.
I mean really, it's SL, virtual world. It's not like life and property were under threat by these roving bands of ruffians.
It's easy enough to kindly let folks know they've stayed from land open to visitors and even to eject them from your land without resorting to such vulgar methods. "..using it as an excuse to wield a little brutal power over helpless passersby.." You're another who didn't read my second post but it's ok. Read it then talk. Although, I don't need nor will I apologize for what i do when intruders or should I say, "..helpless passerbys.." come uninvited on to my land. My land, my rules. Period. So you're saying I should let these "visitors" just come right in whenever they feel like it? Why? Because it's the right thing to do? Or maybe I should stop what I'm doing to kindly and slowly explain to them that they should leave? All 60 odd times this has happened? Why? Because it's the right thing to do? Yeah, right! I'll eject their asses each and every time without a single word to them. i If you came over, I'd eject you too. I'm not showing favortism, everyone goes. I don't know you, therefore I assume you're associated with the mall. I don't have time to stop to ask if you're with them or not nor will I check. I'm also not looking for approval from anyone nor do I care what I'm percieved as. I'm not about to bend over so others who have no freaking business being on my property can constantly come in uninvited and most of all UNWANTED. I'm not looking for new friends and I could care less that you want to see my place. It's not an amusement park. I also have a sign which you have to either be dumb, blind or stupid not to see which says stay out or face ejection. I don't do things I'm expected to do or say, that's not me. I do and say what I think, what I feel and what I want. In this case, if you come in, you're flying out. Plus, and more importantly, as land owner I have the right to eject who I want if they are on my property. So there!
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Kiboe Munro
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Join date: 16 Jun 2007
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09-03-2007 18:05
ya know, even if you do eject, nothing stops them from comming back
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Jannae Karas
Just Looking
Join date: 10 Mar 2007
Posts: 1,516
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09-03-2007 18:11
From: Ricardo Harris "..using it as an excuse to wield a little brutal power over helpless passersby.."
You're another who didn't read my second post but it's ok. Read it then talk.
Although, I don't need nor will I apologize for what i do when intruders or should I say, "..helpless passerbys.." come uninvited on to my land. My land, my rules. Period.
So you're saying I should let these "visitors" just come right in whenever they feel like it? Why? Because it's the right thing to do? Or maybe I should stop what I'm doing to kindly and slowly explain to them that they should leave? All 60 odd times this has happened? Why? Because it's the right thing to do? Yeah, right! I'll eject their asses each and every time without a single word to them. i
If you came over, I'd eject you too. I'm not showing favortism, everyone goes. I don't know you, therefore I assume you're associated with the mall. I don't have time to stop to ask if you're with them or not nor will I check.
I'm also not looking for approval from anyone nor do I care what I'm percieved as. I'm not about to bend over so others who have no freaking business being on my property can constantly come in uninvited and most of all UNWANTED. I'm not looking for new friends and I could care less that you want to see my place. It's not an amusement park.
I also have a sign which you have to either be dumb, blind or stupid not to see which says stay out or face ejection. I don't do things I'm expected to do or say, that's not me. I do and say what I think, what I feel and what I want. In this case, if you come in, you're flying out.
Plus, and more importantly, as land owner I have the right to eject who I want if they are on my property. So there! So New York City.
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Jezebella Desmoulins
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Join date: 4 Nov 2005
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09-03-2007 18:21
I guess every neighborhood has a grouchy "stay the hell off my lawn!" guy.
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Jillian Callahan
Rotary-winged Neko Girl
Join date: 24 Jun 2004
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09-03-2007 18:28
From: Ricardo Harris words hapless, not helpless. ANd if you used the land's eject tool, I wouldn't have said a word. But you cage-gun orbit folks (by your own admission). I did read your second post. You're just excusing your choice in behavior. I'm not arguing in the least that you've every right to disallow visitors. I'm just pointing out that you're being territorial, brutal and vulgar about how you go about it. Not even saying anything you need be concerned bout. If that's how you care to be perceived, cool. You've every right. Good on you.
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Kiboe Munro
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Join date: 16 Jun 2007
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09-03-2007 18:33
From: Jannae Karas So New York City. yea, i agree, thats kind of harsh, i see noobs trying to get itno my house, if they do nto try to particle spam me, or other crap, i simply tel lthem, that they are in my propety lines, i tel lthem to leave, especcialy when im buiolding or doing somthign private
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Oryx Tempel
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Join date: 8 Nov 2006
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09-03-2007 19:38
From: Kiboe Munro yea, i agree, thats kind of harsh, i see noobs trying to get itno my house, if they do nto try to particle spam me, or other crap, i simply tel lthem, that they are in my propety lines, i tel lthem to leave, especcialy when im buiolding or doing somthign private I agree! I used to live next to the Shelter (*waves to Travis*) and there were tons of newbies all over the place. I just made sure they couldn't fly through the windows, and put scripted locks on the doors, and I was fine. I had a little garden that was open to all, and autoreturn was set to one minute. In all the months I was there (  I was never once annoyed/hassled/griefed/other wise irritated by anyone. The only reason I sold was to tier down. Until proven otherwise, I consider each resident of SL to be a non-griefer. As such, I won't erect ban lines on any land I ever do own, nor will I ban individuals unless they've been totally dickfull (the opposite of dickless.) I've only ever been griefed by ONE person, and that was an orbit, and I amused myself by sorting my inventory as I fell 30,000 meters.
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Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
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09-03-2007 19:52
theres this particular shop owner (sells freebie scripts) that ejects and bans anyone that visits his shop. i dont understand the logic of that, but it is what he does in any case. From: Ann Launay Or even if they DON'T actually bother you...apparently a shop owner somewhere decided to eject someone for being in Busy mode, and then banned and muted her for questioning it. 
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Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
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09-03-2007 19:54
psykes security orb does that. some ppl feel its a bit pricey, but imo its the best orb in existence. From: Rioko Bamaisin Yeah I would need a group one. Can't seem to find one. Wish i could buy that one though for only $1L. 
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SLU - ban em then bash em! ~~GREATEST HITS~~ pro-life? gtfo! slu- banning opposing opinions one at a time http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/zomgwtfbbqgtfololcats/15428-disingenuous.html learn to shut up and nod in agreement... or be banned! http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/off-topic/1239-americans-not-stupid.html
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Oryx Tempel
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09-03-2007 20:01
From: Nina Stepford theres this particular shop owner (sells freebie scripts) that ejects and bans anyone that visits his shop. i dont understand the logic of that, but it is what he does in any case. Hey I've been there! Strange guy...
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Rioko Bamaisin
Unstable Princess
Join date: 16 Aug 2007
Posts: 4,668
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09-03-2007 20:22
From: Nina Stepford psykes security orb does that. some ppl feel its a bit pricey, but imo its the best orb in existence. Cool,thanks I'll check it out. 
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Rioko Bamaisin
Unstable Princess
Join date: 16 Aug 2007
Posts: 4,668
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09-03-2007 20:23
From: Oryx Tempel Hey I've been there! Strange guy... That is strange,lol. What's the point of the shop then? 
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Morwen Bunin
Everybody needs a hero!
Join date: 8 Dec 2005
Posts: 1,743
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09-03-2007 23:33
From: Jillian Callahan Piffle. It has nothing to do with compassion. He's just being territorial and using the idea that he's been greifed as an excuse to weild a little brutal power over hapless passerby.
I mean really, it's SL, virtual world. It's not like life and property were under threat by these roving bands of ruffians.
It's easy enough to kindly let folks know they've stayed from land open to visitors and even to eject them from your land without resorting to such vulgar methods. I think you missed the "/sarcasm off"-tag.... for the rest I fully agree with your post. Morwen.
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Morwen Bunin
Everybody needs a hero!
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09-03-2007 23:39
From: Ricardo Harris Guess you didn't read my second post as to why I do this. I did read the second post and it changed nothing about what I think the way you are acting. As said by someone else, I see that just as a weak excuse for your behavior. So your banlist has 40 entries? So what... mine has been bigger (I clean it every now and then). But every entry on it has a very good reason to be on it... judged by me (or the other in the group that holds my land) case by case. And you must done something real stupid to get on it. Morwen.
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