Sad Story

It wouldn't have been a problem if LL would have disclosed information to the public, instead of evidently giving out "a LOT more" to certain FIC members. I wonder why Nolan is entitled to the "full story", while other concerned residents aren't.

To be honest I doubt Nolan got more out of Robin than I, or anyone else did. I don't think there IS a 'full story' - just an attempt to cover up a shameful episode by cynical use of LL's 'good guy' credentials (LOOK! We don't divulge anything!). *shrugs*

I'm not impressed, but who cares? There's only one resident in SL who swings any weight, and she isn't THAT infuential. The rest of us residents? FIC? The FanBoy Brigade? We don't count... It's that simple.

Anyway - one does what one can, for all the good it does. Happily I'm not around a lot longer, so it's not my problem. Still, it would have been nice to have made a difference, just once...

What are FIC Members? Who is Nolan?

Have I missed something?

You must be new FIC is just "an interesting myth", see my signature. Or do a search for "Feted Inner Core" to find thousands of posts with more or less meaningless chatter about it. Basicly the idea is that some residents have special privileges or influence with LL. And frankly, I would have found that pretty natural. My problem is the denial of it. Hence my two signature lines, both are equally (un)plausable to me.

And Nolan posted earlier in this thread, claiming he had information saying there was "a LOT more to it" than what is publicly known. He is also often accused of being a FIC member. Even if such a group supposedly doesn't excist, he seems to be able to get information others are not entitled to.

What happened to his content?

It's also important to realise that none of us have a list of abuse reports that were filed against him. One of the problems with trial by public forum, but a necessary one I am afraid.

You assume that Nolan really knows anything more than the rest of us...

There's something 'Yes I do know, but if I told you, well, then I'd have to kill you' about this - mind-games...
It's a tactic - just like 'we can't discuss matters concerning other residents'

Thank you for your information Moonshine.

I remember Nolans comment, I just did not remember the name. I did not pay much attention becourse it is realy Fiction, roumor and slander - nothing else.

I know Skinhead Mission, I have his e-mail-adress and his telefonnumber and I sometimes help him to translate something into english here, eventhough my english is not much better then his. I know therefore what he is about and what he did and what he did not do.

I believe she also said they had tried to contact him several times, didn't she? But if not, I think they would do better to the discussion before, and not after, taking the action.

Just as they would do better, on the forums, to talk to the person who has posted the pixel nipple picture or whatever, and ask them to remove it, rather than suspending them for three days.

coco

You did make a difference.

coco

Perhaps you could begin the discussion by stating exactly what LL's policy is on "cross-cultural norms". And exactly what a cross-cultural norm is, as the company defines it. Precision would be helpful.

Thank you.

Doc, I didn't speak to Robin. The info I am privy to didn't come from a Linden.

This person had several alts, and was harassing his neighbors, for starters.

Assume much?

Jesus, sometimes I just don't understand why every damned little thing has to be turned into an FIC indictment for some folks. I really don't.

Can we watch a new movie now?

I'm sorry that I assumed your info came from Lindens, Nolan. This invalidates much of my previous post. My bad. This new info also shines more light over the whole situation, so I think I'll just creep into a corner and be ashamed for a while.

It's alright and I am sorry for being harsh.

*Crawls into the opposite corner*

aha, this is the information you got? Did you hear it from the neighbours? Did you ask me about it? Where you got the information, that I have more avis? I dont have.

Why no one can speak with me? I dont know Nolan - the only person how meet me was Doc Nielson.

And Moonshine Herbst, why do you shame now? And why do you think the information from Nolan brings more light in the 'story'?

and by the way - I have a name!

Ok, perhaps I dont must understand this all...

I've heard your side, you've been telling us for days now.

In fact, I was one of the only people to stand up for you at first. If you re-read both threads you'll see that. I even jumped all over LL. Knowing LL and how culturally open-minded they are, I was really having trouble figuring out how they, of all developers I have dealt with in the last 15 years, could be so shortsighted as to ban someone for just including "skinhead" in their name.

In fact, there is another player who has it in their name, and she still does.

So, as happens some times in life, there is sometimes more to a situation than meets the eye. I just regret that I didn't heed the little things that were picking at the back of my brain about the "circumstances" of this whole situation a little earlier.

Skimi, I don't believe you. I was tipped off by another player, and then decided I better go do a bit of investigating on my own. I did, and it seems that either a group of people AND LL are twisting the facts, or you are. I am going to take the position that it is the latter case.

That's all I will say about it.

4 postings... sorry, now 5



I asked you one time, so thank you, that this is all what you say about it to me. anyway - I've asked for reasons and got now clear answer, not from you, not from LL - still only rumours.

I make my impression about persons, if I have a chance to meet them or talk to them - but not from second hand or what others say. But I know, this decide each person other.

I am just wondering if Skimi's understanding of English played a part in all this. Many misunderstandings can result when dealing in another language, and Skimi has admitted his English is not so good. Hell, a lot of native English speakers in these forums seem to have less then ideal comprehension.

Possibly, but I am also fairly confident in LL that they would handle that appropriately.

It is not a question of what you believe or not, it is a question of facts! Skinhead opened the privacy of his account and invited everybody including Lindens and others who say that they have "heard something from neighbours" to publish the facts they have.

Nothing was published!

Still Nolan is pretending to "know" something which he does not.

You are the liar here!

I do not know for what reason you are pretending to have information nobody else has and why you are such a shameless liar.

In Germany we call someone like this "alte Kroete" instead of a "frischer Frosch".

After all I think you learned the wrong lesson from George Orwells Novells: Not the people that are rewriting reality to pleseant little storys for the once that rule are the good ones - no, the ones who stand to the facts and the truth are the heroes.

I was writing an IM to all the neighbours from Skinhead Mission with this content:

Hello ......., there are rumours going on about Skinhead Mission that he was permantently harassing his neighbours. To find out if any neighbour has felt harrassed and is spreding this I am writing to all his neighbours becourse I am shure it is not true.

First two answers are back allready - no harassment at all! In one case he was known as a very friendly and helpfull neighbour. I keep collecting and will publish it here.

It will be nothing I have heard from others it will be the outhentic words of skinheads neighbours.

By the way - his account was not cancelt for "harassment" it was becours uninformed SL-Stuff thought it was "of intolerant nature" wich it was not at all. But anyway - lets look at this also with facts and witness from his neighbours and not only from FIC-rumours.

Nice one Nolan - you deserve a Gold Star.

Or a kick in the balls.

All you have to support your assertions is the unverified word of certain of the guys neighbors. Did it occur to you to look in the blotter and see if there was any corresponding entries?

Obviously not - or you'd have noticed there weren't any.

As for him having Alts - which he denies - as far as I recall that's not an offence, how can it be under the current sign up policy.

ANYWAY - the issue here is someone being forced to change their name arbitrarily because of a whim by a PC LL staffer. And assuming he DID harass anyone, what's that worth, a warning at most?

The forced name change is the issue here.

As for whinging about being taken for a FIC wannabe, that's risible, now why do you think anybody would think THAT?

Did Skinhead have to change his name because of his behavior or because of his name? Was he making Skinheads look bad with his behavior so LL decided to have him change his name?

I'm thinking LL didn't like his name to begin with. I just don't see what behavior has to do with the name change.

Indeed.

Perhaps when you state you know a lot more than the rest of us about a controversial issue, then that is a reasonable assumption to make.

Personally, when I have read statements like that I tend to think that the poster has heard a rumour and is trying to make themslves look important.